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    Carl Panzram...

    Tony Spilotro (SLE-Ti)



    Carl Panzram (SLE-Ti):



    Uday Hussein...

    Courtney Love (SLE-Se)



    Uday Hussein (SLE-Se)


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    George "Ginky" Sansouci....

    Joey Merlino (SLE-Ti)



    Ginky Sansouci (SLE-Ti)



    In a recent article entitled “Limitless”, Charlie Williams spoke of the sheer domination that Ginky exhibited on the regional level in the mid-nineties. “He seemed to rule all the regional events. Not just winning them, but demolishing his opponents,” said Williams. “He had just started playing in big time pro events, and was finishing nicely in them, but no wins yet. But on the regional event level, he was a quiet killing beast.” This unstoppable power led him to be named the “Billiards Digest Rookie of the Year” in 1995, at age twenty-four.

    Achieving this level of mastery in the game in such a short period of time, as George SanSouci did, was unheard of. “When people watched him play, they could not believe that it was a living human being at the table,” said Tony Robles, “Earl Strickland was the only other player I’ve ever seen that could blow away so many top players. People don’t understand, he played so many top players and beat them 9-0, 9-0, 9-0. He had no weaknesses whatsoever.”

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    Boris Nemstov (EIE-Fe)



    Adolph ****** (EIE-Fe)



    Pablo Picasso (EIE-Fe)



    Pekka Sittoin (EIE-Fe)



    Miles Davis (EIE-Fe)



    Amanda Palmer (EIE-Fe)



    Benito Mussolini (EIE-Fe)



    Klaus Kinski (EIE-Fe)

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    Martin Luther King, Anne Sexton...

    Martin Luther King (EIE-Ni)



    Anne Sexton (EIE-Ni)



    Ben Affleck (EIE-Ni)



    Dakota Skye (EIE-Ni)



    Mystery (EIE-Ni)



    Robert Downey Jr (EIE-Ni)



    David Bowie (EIE-Ni)


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    Krystal Boyd - Ni-IEI


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    This tumblr blog is Beta ST AF.

    New Youtube [x] Get Typed! [x]
    Celebs [x] Theory [x] Tumblr [x]

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    Ravi Pujari, Shizzio...

    Uday Hussein (SLE-Se)



    Ravi Pujari (SLE-Se)



    Shizzio (SLE-Se)


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    Boris Nemstov - ENTJ
    Amanda Palmer - ESTP
    Robert Downey-jr - INFP
    Krystal Boyd - T

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    Joan Rivers...

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    Roseanne Barr (SLE-Se)



    Joan Rivers (SLE-Se)



    VI is a core part of Socionics. Take away VI and what do you have, MBTI. Socionics New Wave lays out the VI for each Subtype. Crystal Clear! Socionics New Wave Includes Subtypes. Classical Socionics doesn't. Socionics New Wave takes the most objective approach to typing and IS Takin' Over Socionics!
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    VI is obsolete since changing one's appearance is very easy. fMRI is the future of typology. Post brain scans for accurate typing.

    Added bonus is that it is less invasive than current methods.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Diego Maradona....

    Ernest Hemingway (SLE-Ti)



    Mike Tyson (SLE-Ti)



    Diego Maradona (SLE-Ti)



    And just to show you how accurate VI is take a look at this clip of him:



    I get a similar vibe from him....Remember this that I posted:

    as I talk and make a point, i'll roll my hand off my stomach from a flat position to one where my index finger and thumb stick out like a gun. A lot of times both my hands are shaped like guns as I gesture.

    See it in the clip. he's right in my vicinity....SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sx...SLE-Ti 8w7 so/sp is more dead-eyed, like Noriega, Escobar, Gotti:







    all you need are the person's eyes to identify their socionics and enneagram type. that includes subtype for socionics and wing/stack for enneagram.

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    Fidel Castro...

    Ernest Hemingway (SLE-Ti)



    Fidel Castro (SLE-Ti)



    Castro would be an sp/so…hemingway is not sp/so. that's no bother, though. hehe. the same eye template for sle-ti shows up in all stackings and enneagram. same goes for every socionics type. hang it up on the fridge. see my sle-se photo layout, roseanne barr is sp/so....joan rivers is sx/so.

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    Georgy Zhukov - ESTP

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    Anna (socioneru) - ESTP


    Aleksandr (socioneru) - INFP


    Sergey (socioneru) - ESTP


    Mariya (socioneru) - ENFJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    The video title says "Administrator" ie LSE, but she's likely ESE in her own words that she sees Alpha quadra as the coolest one.

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    Seems like it.

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    This video is titled LIE and I'm inclined to agree - her presentation is all too "democratic" for beta.

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    Danny Rolling (serial killer) - SLE-Se 6w7


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    Marlene Zuk - EIE-Fe sx/so



    Raffaello D'Andrea - SLE-Ti



    Benedetta Berti - LSI



    Frances Larson - IEI-Fe


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    Marlene Zuk - introvert
    Frances Larson - not INFP

    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    in her own words that she sees Alpha quadra as the coolest one
    This matters not much when the opinion comes from rather incompetent person which it typed. Also incorrect examples of types may to have significant influence on her impressions.

    her presentation is all too "democratic" for beta
    She has nonverbal behavior of Fe type. While Reinin's dichotomies are heresy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    The video title says "Administrator" ie LSE, but she's likely ESE in her own words that she sees Alpha quadra as the coolest one.


    Seems like it.


    This video is titled LIE and I'm inclined to agree - her presentation is all too "democratic" for beta.
    She's not LSE she talkema with her hands

    I think the only Russian words that I remember from school are vopshe, tak, batamushna, spasiba, da, nyet

    Mariya is definitely EIE
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Tracy Pollan, Michael Fox's wife

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ancTcHBXVCc
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Audrey Hepburn IEI



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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Annie Mac - BBC DJ, maybe EIE


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    Tory Lane - SLE


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    Se-ESTp





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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    And just to show you how accurate VI is take a look at this clip of him:



    I get a similar vibe from him....Remember this that I posted:

    as I talk and make a point, i'll roll my hand off my stomach from a flat position to one where my index finger and thumb stick out like a gun. A lot of times both my hands are shaped like guns as I gesture.
    I half do that. I don't tend to clench my fist or put my hand near my stomach in general. but i can close my fingers slightly then have my index / thumb sticking out. i'd tend to move my hand from near my leg rather than stomach though; or raise slightly. I do point at people sometimes, but that's much more directed rather than casual, and if i gesture towards people it's normally with flat palm rather than gun-like.

    I nearly never fold my arms. And if so it's conscious. I may block with one hand slightly though.

    What I notice from the video though is that he's not facing the camera or who he's talking to but away, and only moving his head towards. Like he's not fully engaging. And although he's using reasonable rigid gestures, he's not really directing much outward energy.

    So the overall impression is one of rigidness/stubbornness, with a layer of potential dishonesty in there.

    I feel like more energy is required to push him to engage properly.

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    Camila Cabello - INFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Camila Cabello - INFP
    or SEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by msnobody View Post
    or SEI
    2nd possibility is ENFP. S type is very doubtful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    2nd possibility is ENFP. S type is very doubtful
    Why is S type doubtful? Im trying to learn. Also, she reminds me soo much of Ariana Grande, whatever type she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msnobody View Post
    Why is S type doubtful?
    My method is intuitive impressions from nonverbal behavior and I have much more impressions for N type then S.
    You may check my bloggers examples in the signature and try to feel their types by the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msnobody View Post
    or SEI
    I just sort of listened to it as background noise but around 10:30 and on for a couple minutes seems so sensor to me. I didn't see anything that points to her being intuitive > sensor. Too high energy for INFp. I think you are right to see her as some kind of sensor.

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    Alison Moyet - SLE-Se sp/so




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    I've got a quick mouth, and I set my boundaries. Nothing ever happened that I couldn't handle. Once when a guy came on stage making rude gestures, I hit him over the head with my guitar.

    "When I was seven, I decided to buy all my friends some ice cream, but the problem was where to get the money. Sneaking into church, I went to the side of the altar where you can light a candle for your loved ones and took the money from the collection boxes. "

    "I'm totally active. I am just this side of hyper. I jog and go to the gym every day. When I'm on the computer, I'm reading, I'm writing, I'm never quiet. My brain is very rarely not engaged. Every now and again I will fall asleep under the parasol in the sun, but that's a rarity."

    "I made up my mind that I was going to be just like Elvis. It never occurred to me that Elvis was a man. I just wanted to be him. He had a huge impact on me, right down to that black leather jumpsuit he wore on the '68 Comeback Special. "

    "I may have been sexy, but I was covered up total. There was something left to the imagination."

    "I am flattered to have been the woman to have opened the door for female rockers to be accepted into the mainly male industry. "

    "Even though my first marriage broke up, I'd say that I've had two good marriages and two good men. I've been very lucky. I like to think it's karma because, in a relationship, I give 300 per cent. I'm straight with my men, and I like to think it comes back."

    "I joined an all-girl band in Detroit and, although I was a pianist and drummer, I was asked to play bass because no one else wanted to. When I strapped it on, it fit me as good as my leathers. At the first gig we played, I looked out at the audience and thought, 'This is what I'm going to be doing for the rest of my life."

    "The bass player's function, along with the drums, is to be the engine that drives the car... everything else is merely colours."

    "I was a me-ist. I believed in the right to do whatever I wanted to do regardless of gender. Still do."

    "Anyone who has had their heart broken learns to keep a little safety area. Even now in my relationship, I have something I can call my own in case something goes wrong. You need a place to retreat to."


    "I think like a man but have the emotions of a woman, and that's really dangerous."

    "I'm one of those rare breed of rock n' rollers with a brain, probably because the brain's still intact."

    "I didn't think I was going to change the world for women; I just did what I did. My big thing was that I didn't change who and what I was to become successful. I will not be told what to do; I'm a real independent girl."

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    kim anami iei

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    Quote Originally Posted by msnobody View Post
    Why is S type doubtful? Im trying to learn. Also, she reminds me soo much of Ariana Grande, whatever type she is.
    I agree with Se as well. I think Camilia is SeTi or some type of Beta.
    Adriana Grande, imo, is also Se-type.

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    Frank Dillane - INFP

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    Ewan McGregor, EIE-Fe

    (Fe-EIE) Description by Victor Gulenko
    Very emotionally excitable, can be sharp. Shows high intensity of emotions. Decisive and artistic. Easily given to ecstasy, high affect, exaltation. Aristocratic in his manners. Frequently a good speaker, or a political leader with patriotic inclinations. Internally dramatic and spontaneous, likes to demonstrate his opinion. Outwardly he can shock people around him by extremes in how he dresses: may looks like a homeless person with soiled sleeves, or, to the contrary, dress very brightly, vividly, or aristocratically extravagantly.


    Description by V. Meged and A. Ovcharov
    Ethical subtype Fe-ENFj (Fe-EIE)
    Appearance: The ethical subtype is internally very emotional, but usually modest and restrained in expression of his feelings. Unobtrusive in conversation, tries to behave according to the rules of good tone and manners. (...) Usually secretive and careful, exercises foresight and thinks things over in advance. Somewhat unsure in himself, but has patience and perseverance, and knows how to attain his goals. Holds himself with dignity. His movements are precise, but smooth, sometimes demonstrative. Dresses modestly and with taste, but if he wishes can look very effective.
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    IEE-Fi for McGregor

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    IEE-Fi for McGregor
    Where are the Delta values?
    I don't see him expressing Te HA, for instance.

    Whereas I see many points hinting at Se HA.

    Ewan driving cross-country is pretty much him emulating the interests of the club and qualities of his Dual, LSI. (LSIs are commonly into either cars or motorcycles, which is an ST interest: "Very typical examples of groups formed mainly of members of this club are groups of car enthusiasts (...).") Driving cross-country like that is not Si-seeking at all, but rather Se HA. Ewan likes to engage in forceful action in good doses, while neglecting personal comforts ("(...) to bike 20,000-miles, cross 12 countries and 19 time zones in just 115 days") and having a humanitarian, Fe valuing goal in mind ("Ewan and Charley also helped to raise awareness for the vital UNICEF projects they visited along the way.")
    "To be able to overcome everything and win - the main motive of their activity. The worst thing for them - play, which means shame. Because of this, they do not like to get involved in those businesses that are too difficult to win. After all, the third function can be no risk: usually raises difficult, even very difficult task, but doable and achievable."
    IEE, being Si-seeking, generally would shy away from such potentially exhausting, and uncomfortable adventures.
    "Always moving in the direction of places where there is physical comfort, exquisite sensory pleasure and are not able to deny yourself this."
    Then, how Ewan talked about "having something to wear" also ties in with Se HA:
    "The most important thing in life to be rich, powerful, beautiful, successful, skilful. Take it as a challenge and this depends on his self-esteem, so it is very much worried about it. If something does not add up - it takes on the character of the disaster. Often loves to dress up bright, catchy, provocative, as a way to challenge others, to prove her beauty and success."
    I would type Ewan as being SX/SP. He is lacking the stereotypical SX/SO focus that is generally assumed to be part of the EIE's nature. You can see that whenever there is a political or even revolutionary bent to the descriptions. Ewan does not have this characteristic, so that is probably a reason why most people tend to see him more as IEE-Fi, who tend to lean more towards SX/SP in descriptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Frank Dillane - INFP
    good example. do you know his subtype?

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