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    because they are unappreciated and not many people like them. (At least that's what I noticed about the INFjs around me.)

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    INFjs are disproportionately represented among my closest friends.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    I think INFjs are very choosy about who their friends are.

    FWIW, I have never met an INFj I didn't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    I think INFjs are very choosy about who their friends are.

    FWIW, I have never met an INFj I didn't like.
    FWIW?
    I have only one INFJ friend I can think of but he is really cool. We go through periods of hanging out and then not hanging out. Since he is a homebody I tend to spend more time around him when the weather is bad .

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    you should really look at the possibility that you are not EII. i'm not going to say you definitively aren't because i don't know you at all, but from what i have seen of you, you resemble an IEI.

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    I have seen some INFjs who got into people's nerves simply even though they had good intentions, especially male INFjs. INFjs have this gentle but weak look in their eyes, and they seem cold on the surface even though they are actually emotional people on the inside. As a result, they seem to be taken advantage of by people who mistook their softness as weakness and perceived their coldness as unfeeling. At least that's the vibe I got from INFjs, and I can't imagine that that's how people see me. And we are bad in logic.

    @Niffweed: why did you think that I resemble IEI?

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    The worst thing about EIIs, particularly females, that I have noticed...
    is their unusually low self esteem or self image. All of their self sacrificing can leave them with a lot of emotional baggage that they carry, some almost proud about it, but in the INFj dutiful, solemn sort of way.

    I think a trouble with INXjs is that they can be very subject to other people for their sense of well being, despite their reclusiveness. It seems 'counter-intuitive' to change yourself when you are in fact waiting for other people, but unless you are proactive about things, you'll always wait. The more you wait, the more you tlak yourself into believe that there is something wrong with you and some reason to not have peace right now. (consider IJ static states looking for EJ dynamics)


    As a result, they seem to be taken advantage of by people who mistook their softness as weakness and perceived their coldness as unfeeling.
    So now, you see this. The choice is yours - do you become(remain?) the bitch of your polr and dual seeking functions, or do you choose to know your weaknesses and improve upon them?

    The more you identify with what you said there, the more you believe it is you, and the more suffering you create because of that attachment. (So the question is, is that really who you are?) ((not to be considered in terms of socionics - that is a human, deeper question))


    ....But you're probably not looking for .
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    I always manage to make INFj smile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    The worst thing about EIIs, particularly females, that I have noticed...
    is their unusually low self esteem or self image.
    Is self esteem related to type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megan
    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    The worst thing about EIIs, particularly females, that I have noticed...
    is their unusually low self esteem or self image.
    Is self esteem related to type?
    to a degree..... compare the average self-esteem of INFps to say the average self-esteem of ESTps and it should be pretty damn obvious
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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    @Niffweed: why did you think that I resemble IEI?
    i could only give you very general reasons off the top of my head.


    if i recall correctly you once posted a video of yourself talking about how you were MBTI INFJ, but i can't find it. if you could reproduce that video here it might prove useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    I think INFjs are very choosy about who their friends are.
    *nods*

    I certainly am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Quote Originally Posted by Megan
    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    The worst thing about EIIs, particularly females, that I have noticed...
    is their unusually low self esteem or self image.
    Is self esteem related to type?
    to a degree..... compare the average self-esteem of INFps to say the average self-esteem of ESTps and it should be pretty damn obvious
    This is true for both INFps and INFjs. One thing I admire about ESTps is that they can brush off negative comments very easily and not be affected by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Quote Originally Posted by Megan
    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    The worst thing about EIIs, particularly females, that I have noticed...
    is their unusually low self esteem or self image.
    Is self esteem related to type?
    to a degree..... compare the average self-esteem of INFps to say the average self-esteem of ESTps and it should be pretty damn obvious
    This is true for both INFps and INFjs. One thing I admire about ESTps is that they can brush off negative comments very easily and not be affected by them.
    Hmmm... only someone who isn't an ESTp will say this, (And actually, few ESTps would actually admit to what I'm about to say.) ESTps can be very sensitive, but they are sensitive about different things. We value different aspects of ourselves. Being called a "faggot" rolls off my back. For my ESTp brother? Not so much. Likewise, I'm very sensitive about coming on too strongly to people. My roomate comes on strongly to everyone... and it surprisingly works to his advantage, so maybe I could learn a thing or two.

    You get to see the more human side of ESTps if you spend a little more time around them. They can surprise you, actually. One of the ways I've learned to spot an ESTp is that he'll be the one constantly soliciting advice and complaining about "those mothafuckers who keyed my car" and all. lol. Delightful people, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby
    complaining about "those mothafuckers who keyed my car" and all. lol. Delightful people, really.
    lol that's so true

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