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    Type the characters from the popular 'Bleach' anime.

    Starting from the couple Kurosaki Ichigo and Rukia.

    Next, type Inuoe, Chad, and Ishida.

    Throw in any other characters here and one last thing.

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    Type Zaraki Kenpachi and his vice-captain Yachiru.

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    Hmm..
    Chad: INTp?
    Inoue: ESFj?
    Ishida: INTj?
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    Interesting suggestions.

    Ichigo and Rukia?
    She is wise
    beyond words
    beautiful within
    her soul
    brighter than
    the sun
    lovelier than
    love
    dreams larger
    than life
    and does not
    understand the
    meaning of no.
    Because everything
    through her, and in her, is
    "Yes, it will be done."


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    At the insistence of a friend, I looked into this. So with the basic introductory characters who I have seen thus far:

    Ichigo: ISTj

    Rukia: ENFj

    Orihime: ESFj

    Chad: ISTp

    Urya Ishido: INTj

    Edit: You could also always retry this thread with a more evocative title so that people would be more aware of what they were getting involved in with a thread entitled "This Shall Be Fun" rather than "Bleach."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    At the insistence of a friend, I looked into this. So with the basic introductory characters who I have seen thus far:

    Ichigo: ISTj

    Rukia: ENFj

    Orihime: ESFj

    Chad: ISTp

    Urya Ishido: INTj

    Edit: You could also always retry this thread with a more evocative title so that people would be more aware of what they were getting involved in with a thread entitled "This Shall Be Fun" rather than "Bleach."
    About about Kuchiki Byakuya?
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    yeah Ichigo ISTj actually could be right. Hes cool though i like him

    I Loved bleach until they met the bound (seemed like these are fillers?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    yeah Ichigo ISTj actually could be right. Hes cool though i like him

    I Loved bleach until they met the bound (seemed like these are fillers?)
    Yea. Those are fillers. The fillers have ended though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    yeah Ichigo ISTj actually could be right. Hes cool though i like him

    I Loved bleach until they met the bound (seemed like these are fillers?)
    Yea. Those are fillers. The fillers have ended though.
    Music to my ears Mea. My ENTj friend and i want to watch naruto fillers so we can start with the new season but they are so horrid i dont think we will make it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    About about Kuchiki Byakuya?
    Unfortunately, I do not know who this is, since I am not there yet in the manga. Yeah, manga and not the anime series. I'm terribly slow like that. :wink:

    As to explanations of the types:

    Ichigo: ISTj
    - IJ temperament
    - Does not seem to have an aversion to the use of
    - This Creative- projects his "bad boy" image

    Rukia: ENFj (though INFp is possible now that I think about it)
    - She seems to get along well enough with Ichigo, and she seems to have the easiest time at getting him to drop his psychological guard, which may indicate a degree of duality
    - Uses some degree of when communicating (at times angrily) at Ichigo

    Orihime: ESFj
    - Uses a whole lot of
    - Possesses what appear to be Alpha quadra values
    - Possible PoLR

    Chad: ISTp
    - Leading function is definitely introverted
    - Lacks as an ego or quadra value function
    - Seems to have more of a sensory preference (ISTp > INTj) since he is more physical but not in an way.

    Urya Ishido: INTj
    - Similar IJ temperament as Ichigo
    - Possesses "INTj justice" system
    - > preference in his demeanor
    - He is a loner who has to initially be brought into the fold
    - Adaptive in a way that suggests use of creative-
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    All i remember is Orihime has a huge rack. But we have already had a thread about this and capital knockers are normally not indicative of type
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    About about Kuchiki Byakuya?
    Unfortunately, I do not know who this is, since I am not there yet in the manga. Yeah, manga and not the anime series. I'm terribly slow like that. :wink:

    As to explanations of the types:

    Ichigo: ISTj
    - IJ temperament
    - Does not seem to have an aversion to the use of
    - This Creative- projects his "bad boy" image

    Rukia: ENFj (though INFp is possible now that I think about it)
    - She seems to get along well enough with Ichigo, and she seems to have the easiest time at getting him to drop his psychological guard, which may indicate a degree of duality
    - Uses some degree of when communicating (at times angrily) at Ichigo

    Orihime: ESFj
    - Uses a whole lot of
    - Possesses what appear to be Alpha quadra values
    - Possible PoLR

    Chad: ISTp
    - Leading function is definitely introverted
    - Lacks as an ego or quadra value function
    - Seems to have more of a sensory preference (ISTp > INTj) since he is more physical but not in an way.

    Urya Ishido: INTj
    - Similar IJ temperament as Ichigo
    - Possesses "INTj justice" system
    - > preference in his demeanor
    - He is a loner who has to initially be brought into the fold
    - Adaptive in a way that suggests use of creative-
    I agree with all the typings here. But... Chad ISTp? Could he be INTp?
    But I'm pretty sure IxTp. Well, the manga/anime doesn't feature him a lot.

    @meatburger: LOL! Skip the fillers! Just watch the current episodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    I agree with all the typings here. But... Chad ISTp? Could he be INTp?
    But I'm pretty sure IxTp. Well, the manga/anime doesn't feature him a lot.

    @meatburger: LOL! Skip the fillers! Just watch the current episodes.
    Perhaps, but I am not sure if he has conflicting relations with Orihime, but I have not seen them interact too much, so you could be right. We may need a second opinion on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    All i remember is Orihime has a huge rack. But we have already had a thread about this and capital knockers are normally not indicative of type
    capital knockers classic
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    I am very tempted to just start a new thread with a new title, because some of the usual people who tend to flock to anime typing threads do not seem to be making appearances.
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    This is a typing thread for the popular anime series Bleach. I know there is the other thread, but the "usual crew" of those familiar with anime were not present, and I would prefer a more informative subject title.

    Ichigo: ISTj
    - Does not seem to have an aversion to the use of
    - This Creative- projects his "bad boy" image
    - 2nd Possible type though may be ESTp

    Rukia: ENFj (though INFp is possible now that I think about it)
    - She seems to get along well enough with Ichigo, and she seems to have the easiest time at getting him to drop his psychological guard, which may indicate a degree of duality
    - Uses some degree of when communicating (at times angrily) at Ichigo

    Orihime: ESFj
    - Uses a whole lot of
    - Possesses what appear to be Alpha quadra values
    - Possible PoLR

    Chad: ISTp
    - Leading function is definitely introverted
    - Lacks as an ego or quadra value function
    - Seems to have more of a sensory preference (ISTp > INTj) since he is more physical but not in an way.

    Urya Ishido: INTj
    - Similar IJ temperament as Ichigo
    - Possesses "INTj justice" system
    - > preference in his demeanor
    - He is a loner who has to initially be brought into the fold
    - Adaptive in a way that suggests use of creative-
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    I'm reviving this! I've been watching Bleach lately (episodes 1-91) and typing the characters. I wanted to make a thread and made a search just in case. The annoying thing is that my typings are very different from the ones proposed here. I'm gonna describe behavior without any real spoilers. And I'll only use reference hints from the earliest episodes.


    Ichigo - ENTp. He wants to be free from obligations, when he got the power, he just wanted to go with the flow, not deciding to take any responsibility. He does indeed project a strong image, but it's totally inconsistent. He's a rebel. And when someone taunts him, he just has to fight because he has such a fragile Se-image. He does value having a cool image, so Fe value seems correct. He is amazingly powerful and he stands up for himself so he does indeed have a strong , but every fight begins with him underestimating the enemy, then he gets kinda defeated and he succeeds only because of his inherent strength. Even ENTps have a will to live.

    Orichime - ISFp. Fe, alpha values, etc. But the way they drew her body movement and reactions, I would say she reminds me more of IPs than EJs. In the beginning she even needed a friend to constantly keep an eye on her because she was too easily swayed. Not really descriptive of EJ temperament, is it.

    Chad - ISTp. I had a hard time typing him, but I dislike his stereotype. Eventually I decided he was a type with very strong Se, but with no respect for . And no Fe.

    Ishido - INTp. VI. Probably could be INTj, but his reaction to any Fe is always cold and dismissive. Especially when it comes from the ISFp Orichime.

    Rukia - ISFj. This is the typing that I'm pretty much sure of. She is totally negativist and rational, but ISFj makes way more sense than ENFj. She and the ENTp Ichigo fight all the time. Especially in the beginning they had huge misunderstandings. She expected him to be responsible (IJ, Se creative trait) but he just wanted freedom (EP, Ne). On occasion, they have -fights. One time Rukia thought for a long time and said "thank you" to Ichigo when they were alone and Ichigo dismissed it and just said, "you're weird. Why do you say stuff like that out of the blue" and she got really pissed because thanking him had meant a lot to her. There is no hint of in Rukia's behavior or preferences. There is a possibility of Ti-values (she likes rules) but no Fe. She does what she thinks is the right thing to do. Oh, and her reaction to Orichime is always a bit awkward. Orichime seems way too expressively caring for her taste. She doesn't react awkwardly to the Si, she gets confused when Orichime uses too much Fe with her. ... I could go on and on.

    Renji - ESFp? Any thoughts? Being ESFp would match with relationship with Rukia. He also once told her that she worries too much too often. This is how ESxps tend to react to negativist rational (both ISFj and ENFj, so it sounded very familiar). But if he is ESFp, is it normal for him to have that kind of friendly rivalry with ENTp Ichigo?
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    I personally think Orihime is ESFj. But I think ISFp works. lol. I just think she comes across more as a rational, and a Fe dominant?

    I also thought Chad to be ISTp, IxTp at least. Doesn't seem to value Fe much, he doesn't respond much to Orihime's Fe.

    Hmm.. I think INTj works better for Ishida. He gets along well with Orihime IMO. Especially later part in the story.

    Ichigo. Not sure. I'm puzzled about his type. But he's one character I don't notice much.

    Heh. Renji is funny. I think ESFp works.

    One character I'm very curious about is Kuchiki Byakuya. He's like the coolest character. Hmm. I used to dislike him in the beginning though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    I personally think Orihime is ESFj. But I think ISFp works. lol. I just think she comes across more as a rational, and a Fe dominant?

    I also thought Chad to be ISTp, IxTp at least. Doesn't seem to value Fe much, he doesn't respond much to Orihime's Fe.

    Hmm.. I think INTj works better for Ishida. He gets along well with Orihime IMO. Especially later part in the story.

    Ichigo. Not sure. I'm puzzled about his type. But he's one character I don't notice much.

    Heh. Renji is funny. I think ESFp works.

    One character I'm very curious about is Kuchiki Byakuya. He's like the coolest character. Hmm. I used to dislike him in the beginning though.
    ISTj is my guess. He lives according to the rules he has given himself. The rules are everything to him. You could say that the rules are often about people (protecting people, keeping promises given to other people, etc), but I don't think it's because it's too systematic. All Fi types are highly individualistic (even the aristocratic ones think they are), but he has more of a group attitude - "I won't help the likes you you". He seems very aristocratic and I don't mean only his background. He seems to value people according to the respect he has for them. He is also very dutiful and IMO expects the same from others. He is definitely a judging type (rules, obligations, etc). He is very sure of his physical skills and is very condescending to those who are weaker but see themselves as equals or better (e.g. want to fight him).

    Mhh... There is one more interesting aspect. If he is ISTj and Renji is ESFp (supervision), then it explains why Renji was so eager to win him and why he seems to be very affected and dispirited by Byakuya's judgement. ("I am stronger than you. It's just a fact." "nooooo....")
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    I saw another episode with Kuchiki Byakuya. INTp would make more sense than INTj. That's because ISTj and INTj are both equally consistent in keeping their own promises to themselves, so the reasons why he's an unlikely ISTj will also make him an unlikely INTj. I also think he's more likely INTp than ISTp. It's because he seems to value Se (things I've already listed a couple of posts ago).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    I saw another episode with Kuchiki Byakuya. INTp would make more sense than INTj. That's because ISTj and INTj are both equally consistent in keeping their own promises to themselves, so the reasons why he's an unlikely ISTj will also make him an unlikely INTj. I also think he's more likely INTp than ISTp. It's because he seems to value Se (things I've already listed a couple of posts ago).
    Ahh. Ok. Byakuya as INTp makes sense.
    I think I agree that he values Se. And he doesn't seem all that rational, or have Se in his ego.

    Anyway, your explanation of Rukia as ISFj is pretty convincing. ISFj>ENFj.

    What about Hitsugaya Toushirou. That lil boy genius. INTj?
    Hmm. He has this constant frown on his face. But he seems calm most of the time, like he's trying to rationlize things. I dunno.
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    We're only in the Bounto arc atm, but I have some type suggestions.

    Ichigo: SEE (ESI would be my next best guess, SLE my third)
    Rukia: ILI (ESI would be my next best guess)
    Renji: LIE (SEE would be my next best guess)
    Chad: IP
    Ishida: IxTx, LSI is my best guess
    Orihime: ExFx, EIE is my best guess (then IEE)

    Byakuya: LII
    Kno: ILE
    Ururu: IEI
    Jinta: SLE
    Urahara: ILE?

    Tatsuki: IxTx
    Keigo: ILE
    Yuzu: ESE
    Karin: ILI (or some other IxTx)

    bleh, I'll add to the list (more death gods and whatnot) when I feel like it
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    Is there a protagonist of an anime show you like that you haven't typed as an SEE?

    Anyway, here is a past thread on Bleach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Is there a protagonist of an anime show you like that you haven't typed as an SEE?
    Very predictable response.

    Other than Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach (all extremely similar shows, btw), what other main characters have I typed as SEE? Has it occured to you that I like these shows because they're Gamma in nature (as opposed to the reverse)? Has it occurded to you that perhaps this style of anime (epic) tends to have SEE main characters? You do know that I'm not the author of these shows, right? And how much of these shows have you actually seen?

    I think the last anime thread I posted about was Death Note, and the two main characters are clearly LII.

    Besides, Naruto and Luffy are very cleary SEE. It's less clear with Ichigo because before the show he apparently had a reputation as walking around his high school with a scowl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Anyway, here is a past thread on Bleach.
    EIE for Rukia???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Is there a protagonist of an anime show you like that you haven't typed as an SEE?

    Anyway, here is a past thread on Bleach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Very predictable response.
    Predictability does not lessen veracity.

    Other than Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach (all extremely similar shows, btw), what other main characters have I typed as SEE?
    You came close with InuYasha ( + EP) and then you typed Aang and Goku as SEE.

    Has it occured to you that I like these shows because they're Gamma in nature (as opposed to the reverse)? Has it occurded to you that perhaps this style of anime (epic) tends to have SEE main characters?
    Has it occurred to you that you may be projecting Gamma on these shows and characters? I do not see this as a "Gamma show" but a Beta one, which may be why you see so much of yourself/Gamma in the show.

    You do know that I'm not the author of these shows, right?
    Is this a serious question?

    And how much of these shows have you actually seen?
    I have watched some Bleach, but have read more of the manga, and have read ahead and kept myself updated through online summaries and character histories. How much of Bleach have you seen or read?

    Overall nice questions, but they all essentially dodge the real concern of my question.

    I think the last anime thread I posted about was Death Note, and the two main characters are clearly LII.
    You also indicated that you didn't like Death Note. I did not say anime protagonists you have typed, but simply protagonists from animes that you like. There were other LIIs (myself included) who also indicated hating Death Note as well and also disagreeing with that typing of yours too.

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    EIE for Rukia???
    ILI for Rukia??? My initial guess was IEI, but I do not see any -PoLR for her and while observing her character I regularly wonder "Where's the ?."

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    Don't play that bullshit game with me. I can dismiss arguments with the wave of a my -wand too. But if I see such a pattern over time with a single person's typing, should I not question it or be skeptical of possible personal bias? If I came out typing every protagonist of shows I like as LII would you not suspect questionable use of or my sense of objectivity? It is not . I am questioning her right and proper (mis)use of .
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    Nope, it was an move to discredit her, meaning you had already made up your mind and weren't concerned with her reasoning on the matter, or at least were letting her know that you would be condescendingly skeptical until convinced. It doesn't really matter, but I was just pointing it out because I find boring.

    Anyway, I've found that there are two types of archetypal (in a socionics sense) heroes that Japanese people seem to worship: The stoic, confident and melancholic ISTp, and the aggressive, in-your-face, never-give-up ESFp. They both seem to occur very frequently, and it just so happens that the anime that Joy and I typically watch seem to have these ESFp heroes.

    Goku
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    Ichigo has shown many of the same characteristics, but so far hasn't had quite enough character development for me to rule out other Se types.

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    +1 for Logs
    -1 for Discojoe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    Predictability does not lessen veracity.

    You came close with InuYasha ( + EP)
    As opposed to what? What type do you think his is? And what does it have to do with your point?

    and then you typed Aang and Goku as SEE.
    I forgot about Aang. I'm actually undecided between IEE and SEE for Aang. If I had to pick, I'd go with IEE.

    I haven't seen any of the Dragon Ball series, but from what I've read Goku was the first of this particular arc type in epic anime series. Inuyasha and Ichigo don't fit the arc type as well as Luffy (who is as SEE as they come) and Naruto do though because they're portrayed as more "bad ass".

    If you'd like we can take this discussion to an anime/manga forum and ask the members there if they think that these characters all fit a specific anime arc type. I think that you already know the answer though.

    Has it occurred to you that you may be projecting Gamma on these shows and characters?
    No, I do not believe that this is the case (at this point).

    I may have done that in the past when I didn't understand Socionics as well, but I don't believe I've done that in a long time.

    I do not see this as a "Gamma show" but a Beta one, which may be why you see so much of yourself/Gamma in the show.
    I'd say there's a good split between Beta and Gamma in this particular show. Though Chad may be SLI? Not sure.

    Is this a serious question?
    See what I said above about this anime arc type.

    I have watched some Bleach, but have read more of the manga, and have read ahead and kept myself updated through online summaries and character histories.
    I was talking about all of the shows.

    I don't think reading summaries and character histories is a good way of typing, btw.

    How much of Bleach have you seen or read?
    We're only on like episode 90.

    Overall nice questions, but they all essentially dodge the real concern of my question.
    See what I said about arc types.

    There's an LIE arc type in anime as well, as long as we're on the topic. The examples of the arc type that come to mind are Lina Inverse and Nami (from One Piece).

    You also indicated that you didn't like Death Note. I did not say anime protagonists you have typed, but simply protagonists from animes that you like. There were other LIIs (myself included) who also indicated hating Death Note as well and also disagreeing with that typing of yours too.
    I didn't type those characters as LII because I disliked the series (at least from what I've seen of it, we have yet to finish it and I'm not sure we will).

    ILI for Rukia??? My initial guess was IEI, but I do not see any -PoLR for her and while observing her character I regularly wonder "Where's the ?."
    I see the Te. And I see the Fe PoLR in her interaction at the high school when she was pretending to be a transfer student.

    But if I see such a pattern over time with a single person's typing, should I not question it or be skeptical of possible personal bias?
    See what I've said about arc types.

    If I came out typing every protagonist of shows I like as LII would you not suspect questionable use of or my sense of objectivity?
    Not if the characters were similar to each other and (to a lesser extent) if they all appeared in a similar style of anime (or other media).
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Nice little brick I see there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Ichigo has shown many of the same characteristics, but so far hasn't had quite enough character development for me to rule out other Se types.
    I agree with this, though I do think he's shown signs of having an EP temperament.
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    I'd hate Deathnote too if it portrayed my type as a whiny egotistical faggot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Nice little brick I see there.
    Well if it's a stonewall then I must be wrong. Nice Ti. Oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Well if it's a stonewall then I must be wrong. Nice Ti. Oh wait.
    Stonewall? What do you mean? I'm not arguing, just posting random shit without any meaning
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Stonewall? What do you mean? I'm not arguing, just posting random shit without any meaning
    oh

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    Quote Originally Posted by discojoe View Post
    Nope, it was an move to discredit her, meaning you had already made up your mind and weren't concerned with her reasoning on the matter, or at least were letting her know that you would be condescendingly skeptical until convinced. It doesn't really matter, but I was just pointing it out because I find boring.
    You have some peculiar ideas about . Is your not also interfering with your objective judgment in the matter? Does a simple post of not do as much to me as what you claim I did with Joy? You are assuming too much about my post and reading things that are not there. My mind was not already made up about the types, as I do like to keep a healthy dose of skepticism when dealing with typings (even the ones with which I agree). But here I was skeptical about Joy's objectivity. Yes I will be skeptical until convinced because I do not like to take typings at face value.

    Anyway, I've found that there are two types of archetypal (in a socionics sense) heroes that Japanese people seem to worship: The stoic, confident and melancholic ISTp, and the aggressive, in-your-face, never-give-up ESFp. They both seem to occur very frequently, and it just so happens that the anime that Joy and I typically watch seem to have these ESFp heroes.
    Would that not affect how you would tend to type these characters in the future?

    Ichigo has shown many of the same characteristics, but so far hasn't had quite enough character development for me to rule out other Se types.
    I find this to be a reasonable response. I do think that Ichigo has in his ego, but I also think that he is of a different nature from other similar characters that has a quality of .

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    I'd hate Deathnote too if it portrayed my type as a whiny egotistical faggot.
    Yeah. But I still do not think that Kira is an LII.
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