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    Ok so theres three main characters to this story. Throwing all rules of writting and etticit aside in favor of unrefined egotism the first one is me... The royal I. Seems to me like my type is pretty firmly entrenched in most peoples heads here so I think just a quick review/overview to put the spotlight on myself and iratate the people who hate me for a few seconds is in order. You've got a few INFj holdouts... (I think they are mostly a couple of Deltas of the variety.) Then there seems to be a recent wave of ISFp people which I think started with a suggestion from Diana, a possible second by Rick and months later a deffinate "Without doubt, absolutely no other possibilities exhist, period!" from Joy (*note: all thoughts produced by Joyco™ are subject to change without explanation or prior notification. Joyco™ is not responsible for the users interpretations of- or any commonly accepted definitions of- the words "without doubt", "absolutely", or "no other possibilities exhist, period!" Joyco™ is a division of the ENTj Corporation™ "Eating the World One Resource at a Time!") There may perhaps be a few who have placed their bets on INFp. I can't remember who but they are on my list... (be expecting that package in the mail anyday now guys... (don't worry, it's just an old alarm clock and a couple of road flares. Nothing to worry about :wink: ))

    Personally, after trying on the ISFp costume for awhile and using the special shampoo and soap twice a day, I've got to say that it seems to be getting the job done (and I just love the way my scalp tingles! ) It works as far as forum relationships are concerned pretty well I think. If I actually went anywhere or talked to my family I maybe would have some real world relationships to use for data (but that would cut into my "me" time. And my disembodied pal "Al Killm" says it's really important to have lots of "me" time or "The Plan" might not be ready in time.)

    I did however recently go against my strict non interference and face-to-face interraction avoidence policies in order to spend a night and a day at my friends house. The possible suspects present included myself, her, and him (her newest husband of about 5 months now). The following will be impressions, dialogue, and descriptions of common MOs for the two latter characters. These you will use to type them and then post the results.

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    After enjoying a nice walk through the back alleys and immediate shopping center I have decided to introduce Him2 to the story. Him2 is not the focus of this thread but as he was present durring the events in question and played an interresting part in the dynamics of the situation I believe it would be advantagous to include his character.

    Some general disclaimers and points to keep in mind... None of the characters should be considered to conform to the commonly accepted first year psych understanding of "healthy individuals" as they all vigilantly subscribe to various overlapping and distorting personality disorders and "issues". The purpose of this thread is to extract socionics types from the information given (if such a thing is in fact possible) and not to create a list of disorders and characters flaws of which all involved are either fully aware of or just totally unconcerned with. As in all episodes of BionicGoat's life the characters described can be assumed to have recently consumed various quantities and combinations of the following: meth amphetamine, stinky- hydroponic skunk weed, coffee, carbonated beverages, nicotine, verbally constituted bullshit, delusional bursts of CIA manufactured psychotronic brain-washing waves, and frequent currents of human produced methane gasses.


    Section 1: general charcteristics and idioms

    subject: Him2

    In this story Him2 plays the part of "the man" or merchant of the amphetamine substance.

    Him2 is a newly introduced character into the greater Bionicgoat narative. This character did not exhist prior to two nights ago when he first emerged from the amorphous mass known as "the rest of the world". Although an obvious and uncommonly chronic sufferer of the desease commonly known as "Babelous-will-not-shut-the-fuck-upigous", him2 actually was somewhat enjoyable company IMO. Displayed a strong preference for humor in the form of unrelenting homo-erotic inuendo, gesturing, and frequently inappropriate invasion of personal space through the yawning-arm around the neighboring person move as well as blatent touching and hand placements deserving of cries of "HANDS!". Despite this Him2 IMO seemed to be more focused on the humorous effects of these things as opposed to any actaul elicitation of "let's go be gay together!" responses. At the same time Bionicgoat would not at all be surprised were he to learn that Him2 is in fact "open for buisness" to both models of the human gender with a general preference for the female species. On the other hand there was no serrious indication or reason to assume or even speculate on that possibility beyond some subtle and perhaps imagined something that seems to be reminicent of others Bionicgoat has known of similar persuasions.

    Him2 had a definate aura of "living in the spotlight" and constantly engaged and played to all around him in a manner. Unlike Bionicgoat Him2 seemed to naturally be the center stage and deliver an unending monologue of rediculousness for all to "enjoy". (Bionicgoat's style, while equally focused on constantly delivering humor tends to take the form of short interjections and occasional psuedo shit talking of the most rediculous and overblown type. Instead of a constant stream of noise, Bionicgoat tends to sit on the sidelines with a slight mischevous grin and detached "huh?" aura - sensing the "perfect" moments when the outside mood and inside stream of observations and monologues syncs up seemingly out of nowhere. Then he strikes out with the minimum required words to deliver maximim bursts of LULZ to those who happen to catch them) Him2, when not "gotten" pushes the joke onto his audience expanding upon it until his desired reaction is obtained. (Bionicgoat, when not "gotten", notices the either bewildered response or the "dude... that's a bit too far" reaction in his audience and leaves the joke to disapate and be forgotten. Focus naturally turns back inward to the inner thought and ideas as well as to waiting for the next opportunity for a new thread of humor to be injected)

    Him2 seems to be superman in the sense of his involvment with the great unwashed masses of humanity. Besides being self-imployed in the substance abuse market he is also a partial owner in a small local "escort" service. Besides "managing his bitches" Him2 also acts as their driver and security, monitoring the progress of the "date" through wireless bugs that are carried by the girls when they are on the "date". Him2's only security enforcement tool appears to be a two foot length of wooden club which he is happy to notice that I correctly label a "niggerbeater" upon unknowingly sitting on and having to move to the cardoor sidepockets. Him2's primary mode of "security" enforcement turns out to Kenpo karate which coincidentally is the same style in which Bionicgoat spent nearly ten years of his adolescence and teens learning and practicing. As if Him2's plate still had plenty of room he is also a liscensed massage therapist (of the legitimate kind), teaches self defense at some community center, and is a grief, relationship, and sexual abuse councilor. Him2 completes this superman archetype by having been a very successful Phoenix real estate lawyer, one of three credited for authoring the current property codes (or whatever you'd call it) for the entire county. (Initially Bionicgoat is extreamly suspicious of Him2's seemingly endless list of achievements and abilities but over the course of the next night and day he discovers that Him2's credentials are, in fact, very surprisingly legitimate.)



    subject: Him1

    Him1 came onto the scene sometime around six months ago as a newly aquired accessory to Her. Him1 is a product of the interstate trucking industry and has been an active employee of said industry for an undetermained amount of time (estimation: five to ten years). Her met Him1 after being ditched and stranded by another trucker at one of the various lovely desert landscaped rest stops which lie along the aproximately 800 mile stretch of highway connecting the metro Phoenix, Arizona area to the Californian mega-metropolitan cityscape. Him1, unlike most major characters in Bionicgoat's sphere of aquaintence somehow exhisted through all previous years of his life in a state free from self induced chemical enhancements. This unprecidented situation was rectified however through the influences of Her. At the present time Him1 is increasingly becoming aquainted with the popular local equation:

    life - frequent.meth.intake = this.fucking.sucks!
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    life + constant.meth.drama = this.REALLY.fucking.sucks!

    Bionicgoat, although not generally displaying or mentioning the fact, is on the inside, quite saddened and slightly sickened with misplaced guilt (even though he only mixes in this circle one a month at the most) to see this trend take hold of Him1. (Bionicgoat does not agree with the majority of his collegues that drug theory shows promise as a superior system of lifestyle management)

    According to conversationally aquired information Him1 is far from a "lady's man" and has experienced at the most three or four brief (and failed) adult "relationships" with the female species. In this aspect Him1 is somewhat similar to Bionicgoat but seems to be somewhat lacking in the ancient arts of human interraction. Bionicgoat believes his own conversational abilities and raw charisma attribute to be > than Him1, however he has yet to gain access to both character sheets to compair these stats. Him1 talks almost exclusively in a steady, somewhat rambling fasion with very little voice modulation. A particularly noticable quirk of Him1 is his frequent phlegming and throat clearing in an obviously un-selfaware way. It is supposed that this sort of quirk's unrefined and rather distracting nature might be a development or relic of the solitary lifestyle of the interstate trucking industy.


    *** PAUSE ***
    Ack! I'm sick of this idiom... now switching to Bionicgoat Standard language program.
    *** PLAY ***

    Him1







    LOL intermission... Sick of writting for the moment... will continue after a brief chemical intake interlude




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    LMAO

    It is funny how people read nonexistent absolutes in my statements. This doesn't happen much irl so I think it's gotta be because people can't hear my tone. Or something.

    Anyways, about your type (not to derail the thread or anything... if you want you could ask to have this post split from this topic so the conversation doesn't become about just your type instead of what you intended it to be about)... I think you're Fe > Fi and Si dominance seems likely since by VI ISTp seems as likely as ISFp. But VI isn't exactly infallible and your past and current lifestyles could certainly distort your appearance. Not to mention that none of us has met you in person. If we evaluate your type possibilities without taking VI into consideration, Beta seems almost as likely as Alpha. Hard to say though. Your attitudes about money strike me as being more Alpha, but the idea that Si > Se types </3 materialism and Se > Si types <3 profit are merely stereotypes. While it's true that the Alphas I know look down on what they perceive as greed (and quadra descriptions say they generally do), I don't think it's reasonable to assume that anyone with a distaste for capitalists and materialism is Alpha.

    Also, how sure are you that you're an introvert? Temperament is another thing that can change rather dramatically when someone's lifestyle includes a lot of drugs. If you have any issues with depression or anxiety or whatever (and I'm not suggesting that you do) that could also make your temperament seem something other than what it might have been. Then again, I spent a few years hanging around druggies (I don't think I have to tell you that I mean absolutely no offense, but just in case... I mean no offense), and the ISTp and INTj always act like a intoverts and the ESTj always acts like an extrovert. If you're certain you're an introvert I'll take your word for it, but I think that's something that may be difficult for even you to judge as there are other variable involved.

    Pretty much what I'm saying is that right now ISFp seems likely for you, followed by INFp, followed by any other Fe type, followed by ExTp , followed by INxj, followed by ISTp, followed by everything else. (And yes, this list is quite tentative and is subject to change. ) Of course, I have never observed you irl so these typings are based solely on your online persona and interactions with other members of the community. And there's something about that (the way you get along with others here... no, not me ) that I have to ponder a bit.

    So yeah... I haven't read the descriptions of the others right now and can't because I need to get to work. Later I will and if something stands out to me I'll mention it.
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    you can try to type me after I've finished my story... I believe it will give you a good amount of incites on my views towards some of the things that could distinguish between beta/alpha, intro/extro. But for the moment the topic at hand is the types of Him2 and Her. Since I ran out of steam and will be completing that in a little bit... there is nothing to see here

    actually Him1 is somewhat established I guess... perhaps we're open for buisness on him. I think the most telling things on the types of all involved will be after I've layed out the general characteristics, setups, and introductions of each and can give you the three or so choice moments that I think really captured (and are telling) of who these people really all are (in a socionics sense). IMO this thread will be be able to serriously pinpoint it in that there are three others to be typed and the relationships between all three will be illuminated upon so that these types can be double checked and all that.

    I introduced Him1 into socionics somewhat and being a relationship counselor he was loving it (I think). I believe it fits his outlook and views on things pretty well. Hopefully he's going to be making himself an account on here sometime, then things will get even more refined when his understanding of the dynamics and character personalities can be compared with mine.

    After that I will take over the world!

    (and I just thought that disclaimer I added after your name was just too awsome not to be there ... hehe... think of it more like a joke than a statement OK? (I don't seem to get what's funny to ENTj and what's a trigger for debate and Te bumrushing... I was hoping that I had made it humorous enough so that even you could get it (another Joke... heh... that one probably crossed the line )

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    at the moment I'm keeping myself totally open on my type... I mean I'm wearing the ISFp suit, but it's just because I've got to be something... ya know? I'm not married to it or anything. I figured by doing this I could maybe get some of the redundency and error checking from a real life situation with 3D people to get a solid fix on things. Of course it is still Bionicgoat... the fog of disfunction and chemicals is much of the time almost indistinguishable from the air everyones breathing. But I really do think that there are definate windows of both the personalities and relationship types that come through the general pyschofucktosis of four dopers spending a day and a half together in a small apartment.

    whatever... if nothing else it'll make some interresting reading for the kids...

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    Grrr, this makes me want to get the whip out and beat you into finishing your book.
    I don't like Him2, he sounds like my old boss..complete ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    (and I just thought that disclaimer I added after your name was just too awsome not to be there ... hehe... think of it more like a joke than a statement OK? (I don't seem to get what's funny to ENTj and what's a trigger for debate and Te bumrushing... I was hoping that I had made it humorous enough so that even you could get it (another Joke... heh... that one probably crossed the line )
    It was very amusing. The only reason I said what I did was because the joke reminded me of an all too common miscommunication I have had with some of the forum members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyburger
    Grrr, this makes me want to get the whip out and beat you into finishing your book.
    I don't like Him2, he sounds like my old boss..complete ass.
    stuff that was going to make Oy hate me removed...

    /edit 4Oy ^^^ I went and moved what I had said here about da book into my thread at the other forum. For some reason it seems like a good idea to me to keep the book related discussion all in one somewhat coherent space.

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    Are you finished describing Him1 and Him2 yet? I have some ideas, though Him2 is still a little hazy.

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    lol, I have no idea what or who I'm supposed to type because I got lost in the first post, but I still lol'ed. I don't even have to understand bionic to lmao.

    PS! I don't type by someones' description of someone else because such descriptions are always extremely skewed, so it wouldn't have made a difference if I had actually found what I was supposed to type.
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    I was enjoying the story. Is it done?

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    lol I forgot about this...

    ummm.... maybe tomarrow?

    I'll serriously try to complete it so I won't add to 20 or 30 other half finished stories, translations, and just random junk that I tend to leave all over the place (just imagine what my room looks like IRL hehe)


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    ok.

    Wait, translations?!

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    look in the articles forum... there's some full books on Socionics I've done in there along with other random articles and stuff. They are machine translations but done with quality professional translation software ($1500+ (if you pay for it that is :wink: )) and not the shitty web-based freebee translators. Depending on how much effort I put into them they range from good quality to somewhat better than babelfish, but deffinately worth a look if you haven't come across them before. Be forewarned... like I said above I tend to lose interrest in things and leave them unfinished so don't be surprised by it.

    /edit I just looked real quick and some of it must have burnt up in the forum purge... I'll have to repost those links sometime. (thankfully I tend to put the translations on my ftp and just post the link instead of doing the text. Everything should still exhist and be easily restored)

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