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    Default ENTj description (Filatova) edited!

    I'm going to include the original I worked from in case any ENTjs here wanna play with their Te. There were certain sentences I didn't know how to translate and I only read it over once so I'm sure the grammar is still horrendous. Just quote whatever part needs to be overhauled.

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    Logical-Intuitive Extrovert
    LIE – ENTj – Jack (The Owner)

    Installation of the consciousness in the leading bloc: the LIE: life is inconceivable without reasonably directed work. In order to obtain a good result he must operate effectively and maybe even take risks, using time to the maximum benefit.

    Description of the Strong Functions:

    Te – A person’s natural state should revolve around his work activity, and LIE, as much as possible, corresponds to this principle. He is the strong worker, works willingly with a sharp understanding and comprehension of each action; therefore he makes everything productively, effectively and with great pleasure.

    LIE – one of the most dynamic psycho-types, he is very active, possesses fast reactions and takes the initiative. He capably calculates his actions so as to be economical. Being engaged in industrial activity he easily translates his thoughts into reality, it is better to put waste to use than to throw it out. Can conceptualize the optimum method of making use of space so that no room is wasted. Thus he precisely comprehends which task is major and which is minor. He attempts to determine the precise order of his preferences: so that minor trifles should not prevent him from carrying out what is deemed the most important task/goal. He applies these same abilities in the realms of his hobbies: should he find something to be impossibly immense he’s able to reasonably limit himself.

    Ni – In order to work rationally it is especially important to plan beforehand so as not to waste any time in vain. A combination of practicality and romanticism is noticeably characteristic in LIE.

    Introverted intuition manifests itself in his irrepressible imagination, the ability to consciously combine events and facts, within his mind, which are incompatible with reality. Possessing a rich imagination allows LIE to habitually view things from a different, unexpected angle. Inventors and rationalizers are often representative of this psycho-type. Such a person can foresee the optimum solution in deciding how to solve a problem; can often find a way out of unusual situations.

    He very much enjoys experimenting with mental and practical activities. He approaches situations as if playing a game, which itself is more important than the task in which he’s engaged. Though something may be more “interesting” than “convenient”, he will try to combine the two whenever such is possible.

    His extroverted intuition is also rather active, he is attracted to novelty in various different areas – mechanics, electronics, sports, new ways of learning… Thus he makes sure that these activities are not assumed in vain: tries to apply, whenever possible, novel ideas to a field of interest. It occurs that even from the unprofitable situations, that he cannot avoid, he will nonetheless manage to benefit.

    The aspiration to allocate resources, in time, in the most rational way is characteristic of LIE. He constantly analyzes everything, which has occurred, predicts relations with different people, and tries to predict the consequences of his actions. Each missed opportunity is felt sharply by him: he applies his best efforts to insure such does not repeat itself again.

    His ability to sense the slightest change in a situation, his fast reactions, his initiative, and his practicality, combined with his creative vein, make him a good businessman and manager. He is able to be prudent and economical in his means, but also to take risks. However, it should be noted that risks, for him, are always thought over and calculated in advance.

    Description of Weak Functions:

    Si – LIE is not confident in all that concerns his state of health, aesthetics, and household convenience. It occurs that even in these areas he tries to use his imagination and initiative – qualities that serve him so well in practical and industrial activities. But very quickly he sees that his activities in these areas are met with bewilderment, at times even with sneers. Such reactions are experienced painfully. He makes note of what those that criticize him say, those sad and boring people, and also notes their inadequacies. However, he nevertheless begins to be cautious in exercising “his creativity” here and instead adheres to what’s deemed acceptable by society: he buys mass-produced furniture, wears standard clothing (typically sports wear), and, in regards to health, simply prefers conducting a healthy mode of living, avoiding, whenever possible, having to see the doctor.

    The sensory function’s vulnerability also generates another feature in LIE’s character: the tendency to self-affirmation. He wants to prove to himself, and those surrounding, that he has the strength, endurance and skill to overcome barriers. Therefore he loves travel and sports – especially such kinds as mountaineering, tourism, and slalom skiing. His aspiration to romantic adventure is defined by his strong intuition.

    Fe – For LIE, situations where emotions are displayed seem obscure and not very interesting. He prefers to hide his bad mood – in those rare cases when it arises. He does not care for pessimists and whiners. In acting, with regards to this function, he leans on the norms that are accepted by society but often has difficulty recognizing the relevance or irrelevance of displaying certain feelings.

    Impulsiveness is not characteristic of him; he usually leaves conflicts, as he understands that they don’t benefit anybody. If he does not manage to avoid a conflict he is capable of striking with a sharp counter blow. It also occurs that he’ll play the aggressor to warn away the aggression of another.

    LIE at Work and in the House:

    In regards to professional hierarchies LIE begins with principle of rationality, he does not necessarily desire to hold a high post if someone competent is already in power. If such isn’t the case than, for the sake of saving time, he finds taking the initiative easier.

    As a leader he’s perfectly able to solve strategic problems. He aspires to achieve positive results in industry through the introduction of modern technologies. If he trusts someone he will behave informally with him or her, but will remain the true leader. He’s a supervisor of democracy, creating the proper relations towards his subordinates is inherent to his position. In regards to all his fellow workers, even those at a lower position in the hierarchy, LIE aspires to treat their concerns as equal to those of a business partner.

    His relations with relatives are also painted by the aspiration of partnership. He finds it easier to relate and agree with others on a verbal level (through dialogue). He perceives intonations, gestures, and vague hints poorly. He would rather that others directly tell him what they require of him.

    LIE – the good family man: the man of this psycho-type is able to give a lot of time to his home, especially if it is necessary to make, improve or invent something. He finds routine business boring. As well the female LIE does not overly care for keeping order in her home, does only what is necessary.

    Summary of Functions:
    1. Te – One of the most dynamic psycho-types. Works willingly with an excellent realization in regards to each activity. Prefers “large-scale” work. Knows how to systematize, to create an effective working system, in which all the components will be taken into consideration.
    2. Ni – Is capable of envisioning the long-term forecast. In him is combined practicality with romanticism. Inventor and innovator, the lover of drawings. Is oriented towards the distant prospect, ably selects the best options for the future and rarely makes mistakes in this.
    3. Si – Finds it difficult to create comfort in his private life, to be orientated in his health, he prefers a healthy mode of living, and in clothing – a sport style. Lover of expeditions, overcoming of obstacles, different types of journeys. He is not inclined to force his way by direct pressure, instead will invent something new so as to create the bridge that puts him ahead of his rivals.
    4. Fe – Is poorly orientated in the emotional realm and in “society intrigues”, so prefers a familiar, friendly, democratic style of behaviour. He respects the norms of morals, traditions, wishes that they provide him with cues on how to properly react to others.

    Professional Possibilities:
    LIE can effectively deal with scientific research work, an inventor and innovator. Successfully realizes abilities, as owner, manager, knows how to orient self in situations of instability. Good teacher, educator. Also finds a place in the primary industries – operational work.

    Relations:
    Potentially Favorable –
    ESI (ISFj), EII (INFj), LSI (ISTj), SEE (ESFp)
    Potentially Adverse –
    SEI (ISFp), SLI (ISTp), IEI (INFp), LII (INTj)
    INFp-Ni

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    1. The ½«ú¿«-intuitive extrovert (ENTJ, Jack, the Businessman).
    Installation of consciousness of leading block LIE: the main thing without what human life is inconceivable is the reasonably directed work (CHL - program function), and for reception of good result it is necessary to operate(work) effectively and, maybe, even risky, with the maximal benefit using time (BI - realization of the program).
    The description of action of functions of strong channels (the leading block)

    CHL - program function. The basic, natural condition of the person should be its(his) labour activity, and LIE as well as possible corresponds(meets) to this principle. It(he) the big worker, works willingly, with fine understanding and comprehension of each action, therefore does(makes) all very much produmanno, effectively and with the great pleasure.
    LIE - one of the most dynamical psikhotipov, it(he) is very active, possesses fast reaction, is initiative. Is able to calculate well the actions, to be economical. Being engaged in industrial activity, it(he) easily thinks out, as it is better to put on use production wastes to throw out, is capable to develop also the best variant of use of a premise(room) that literally any centimeter of the useful area was not gone. Thus it(he) precisely understands, that for it(him) is the main thing, and that - minor. Tries to define(determine) a circle of the preferences precisely: trifles should not prevent to carry out that it(he) considers(counts) for itself(himself) as the main thing. The same features are characteristic and in the field of its(his) hobbies: it is impossible obyat immense! It(he) can reasonably limit itself(himself).

    BI - function of realization of the program. To operate(work) rationally, especially important to be able to plan well work then it will not be necessary to waste time in vain. For LIE the combination of practicalness and romanticism (chl-í¿) is especially characteristic.
    Introvertnaya the intuition is shown in its(his) irrepressible imagination, skill to combine in consciousness of event and the facts incompatible in real time. Possessing rich imagination, LIE it is capable to look on habitual from the unexpected party(side). Inventors, rationalizers often are representatives of it(this) psikhotipa. Such person can foresee an optimum variant of the decision of a problem, often finds a way out in not ordinary situations.
    It(He) very much likes to experiment and mentally, and in practical activities. At its(his) approaches there is a game element: to it(him) it is more important, that in what it(he) is engaged, it was interesting. "Interesting" it is at times more important "convenient" though it(he) and tries to combine whenever possible that and another.
    Its(His) intuition of opportunities (CHI) also is rather active, it(he) is attracted with all new in the most different areas - the mechanic(mechanics), electronics, the sports, new ways of training... Thus it(he) watches(keeps up) that also its(his) this activity was not gone in vain: tries to apply whenever possible this(thus) new in the area. Happens and so, what even from unprofitable situations for itself if they do not manage to be avoided, it(he) manages to benefit.
    For LIE the aspiration to distribute(allocate) the forces in time in the most rational way is characteristic. It(he) constantly analyzes all that has occured(happened) (BL), predicts attitudes(relations) with different people, tries to expect consequences of the acts. Sharply experiences each missed chance: uses the best efforts, that it with it(him) has not repeated any more.
    Skill to feel the slightest changes of a situation, fast reaction, the initiative, practicalness in a combination to a creative vein do(make) by its(his) good businessman, the manager. It(he) is able to be prudent and economical in means, but is capable to go also on risk. However we shall notice, that this risk at it(him) is always thought in advance over and calculated.
    The description of action of functions of weak channels

    BS - the channel of the least resistance. LIE it is not so assured(confident) in all that concerns(touches) state of health, an aesthetics, household convenience. Happens so, what even in these areas it(he) tries to show imagination and the initiative - qualities which so well go right to it(him) in practical activities, on manufacture. But very quickly it(he) is convinced that its(his) activity in touch area meets bewilderment, and at times and sneers. Firstly it(he) painfully experiences such reaction, writes off(copies) all that its(his) opponents, say, too sad and boring people and on what are not capable, however nevertheless as a result starts to be careful to show here "creativity" and follows that is accepted in a society: buys mass-produced furniture, carries the standard clothes (as a rule, sports breed), and in that, as to health, - simply prefers to conduct a healthy way of life, avoiding, whenever possible, to address to doctors.
    Very much loves the nature, considers(counts) what to live with it(her) is necessary in the consent - here for it(him) also the alloy of practicalness and romanticism is characteristic. Vulnerability of touch function generates one more feature in character LIE: the tendency to self-affirmation. It(he) wants also to itself(himself), and surrounding to prove the force, endurance, skill to overcome barrier (CHS). Therefore it(he) loves travel, sports, its(his) especially such kinds, as mountaneering, tourism, a slalom where can trap dangers which do not frighten it(him) but only will mobilize. Certainly, the aspiration to romantic adventures is defined(determined) also by its(his) strong intuition.

    CHE - normative function. The area where emotions are shown, for LIE is obscure and not so interesting. It(he) prefers to hide the bad mood - in those rare cases when it at it(him) arises. Does not love pessimists and whiners. In the field of action of this function LIE leans(bases), basically, on those norms(rates) which are accepted by a society as to it(him) sometimes happens difficultly to realize relevance or irrelevance of display of those or other feelings. Happens and so, that it(he) will lead itself(himself) even freely, and sometimes suddenly will feel difficulty in dialogue though internally it(he) the person extremely independent, to enslave itself or to serve someone not begins. For it(him) freedom of will is characteristic; it(he) aspires to go freely on a life.
    Impulsiveness in its(his) behaviour is not characteristic, from conflicts it(he) usually leaves, as understands, that from them there is to anybody no advantage(benefit). If collisions do not manage to be avoided - it is capable to strike sharp counter blow. Happens also, that it(he) plays aggression to warn aggression of another.

    LIE on work and houses

    In service hierarchy LIE also starts with a principle of rationality, it(he) does not have desire necessarily to hold a high post if others supervise and do(make) it successfully. Otherwise, for the sake of economy of time, to it(him) to take the initiative easier.
    The ½¿Ý-HEAD perfectly is able to solve strategic problems(tasks).
    It(He) aspires to reach(achieve) good industrial result introduction of modern technologies. If to it(him) trust, it becomes easy(light) not formal, but the true leader. On supervising to it(him) democratism, the valid attitude(relation) to subordinates is inherent in a post. To everyone to the fellow worker even if that is at lower step in hierarchy, LIE aspires to concern as to the equal in rights business partner.
    Attitudes(Relations) in family with relatives to it(him) people also are painted by aspiration to partnership. Most easier with it(him) to agree on verbal (verbal dialogue) a level. Intonations, it(he) perceives gestures, thin hints badly, to it(him) easier directly to tell, that from it(him) it is required, instead of to try to play on shades of attitudes(relations) (ethics of attitudes(relations) - weak function).
    LIE - the good family man: the man of it(this) psikhotipa it is capable to give a lot of time to a facilities(an economy), especially if it is necessary to make " cleanly man's work " - something to beat, make, improve, invent. Easier(simply) to be engaged in routine business - to it(him) it is boring. As well the woman-½¿Ý not so likes to keep order at home, does(makes) it only necessarily. Refinement, salonnost is not for it(her). In families where the leader is LIE, appreciate optimism, skill to not go in cycles in household problems more.
    INFp-Ni

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    Thanks. My comments

    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Installation of the consciousness in the leading bloc: the LIE: life is inconceivable without reasonably directed work.
    The key word is "reasonably".

    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Te – A person’s natural state should revolve around his work activity, and LIE, as much as possible, corresponds to this principle. He is the strong worker, works willingly with a sharp understanding and comprehension of each action; therefore he makes everything productively, effectively and with great pleasure.
    Yes but only if the work is seen to make sense (even if not "fun"). To work on something one neither understands nor sees as making sense is paralyzing. That is Te-dominance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Si – LIE is not confident in all that concerns his state of health, aesthetics, and household convenience. It occurs that even in these areas he tries to use his imagination and initiative – qualities that serve him so well in practical and industrial activities. But very quickly he sees that his activities in these areas are met with bewilderment, at times even with sneers. Such reactions are experienced painfully. He makes note of what those that criticize him say, those sad and boring people, and also notes their inadequacies. However, he nevertheless begins to be cautious in exercising “his creativity” here and instead adheres to what’s deemed acceptable by society: he buys mass-produced furniture, wears standard clothing (typically sports wear), and, in regards to health, simply prefers conducting a healthy mode of living, avoiding, whenever possible, having to see the doctor.
    Yes but it's not due to not wanting to exercise "creativity", it's more not wanting to be bothered with that stuff, at least in my case.


    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    1. Te – One of the most dynamic psycho-types. Works willingly with an excellent realization in regards to each activity.
    Again if the work does not seem to make sense, willingness and energy are sapped.

    Generally it seems accurate. I like it.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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