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    Default ENTp and ISTj supervision relations (ILE-LSI)

    anyone have experience with this relation?

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    Two of my good friends (who were friends with each other) were ISTj and ENTP. They were a riot to watch together. They got along well and enjoyed each other's company, but the ENTp always thought of the ISTj as rigid and naive, though in an endearing and hilarious way. In essence, he saw him as the awkward teenager who needed to be brought out of his shell. A while back they traveled abroad with a group and were roommates, and I recall the ENTp telling me how disappointed he was that the ISTj didn't go out partying with him and stayed in his room all night. The ENTp didn't sound offended by this, though. He sounded more like a frustrated counselor/friend who was disappointed by the ISTj's self-sabotage. He would also mention frequently that the ISTj needed to be more spontaneous.

    The funny thing about this relation is that I've never seen an ENTp act in such a concerned/caring way toward someone else. Usually ENTps don't bother with people who have issues or aren't enjoyable to spend time with, but this ENTp was extrordinarily patient with and accepting of the ISTj - it really seemed like he wanted the best for him.

    The ISTj had a lot of respect for the ENTp - he pretty much wanted to be him because the ENTp was very popular and in high demand. On the other hand, he thought he was bizarre.
    Watching arguments between those two was the funniest. The ISTj would snap at the ENTp like a crab whenever he disagreed with something he said, and the ENTp would just laugh out loud and say something patronizing. It looked something like a grandchild taking care of the crusty, crazy grandparent (this doesn't describe all ISTjs, just my one friend who's a total caricature).
    The two weren't incredibly close, however, because I think they got on each other's nerves.

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    I have witnessed a romantic relationship. It was very similar to what uninspired described, but since it was ENTp male - ISTj female, the girl actually went along with the partying, and she didn't "snap" at him much - although the reaction was exactly the one you mention - they ENTp would always start laughing, but he probably kept inside the patronizing comment. I don't know how it ended or if it ended, but it actually looked like a good match.
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    i have 3 good friends who are all istj's. for some reason, i kinda like them. they are so practical and down to earth. unlike me.

    they do get annoyed with me a la grandparent though....since i always have some harebrained idea that they don't want to consider but kind of have to. the funny part of the relationship is the entp being impervious to any criticism from the istj but the istj's, who are normally so stoic and controlled, being totally affected by the least little thing the entp says.

    i'd have to say i like the attention. and i spose the relationship descriptions are correct...i guess we look like good friends. but we all really are good friends.

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    I know two ISTjs well. I get along with both of them well, except one time with one of them (I guy I work with) had one big argument.

    This relation seems to be a good one IMO. I admire the way they think about things, they way they are very well grounded to very practical thoughts.
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