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    So how many Alpha VIs are there? I'm guessing 16 x 4 = 64, then another 64 for the pathological forms of each.

    Let's see if we can divvy them all up by information exertion.
    NOTE: these are tentative. Discuss and critique.

    ESFjs:



    INTjs:

    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...ndipityseeking
    I'd been wondering about Rudy Guiliani's exertion type. From this profile we can affirm it: INTj-ESTp "Conquering Analyst".


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...?user=rfogarty
    INTj-ESTp.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...lordjavathe3rd
    Probably INTj-INFp "Lyrical Analyst".


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...p?user=knyaz_s
    Probably INTj-ISFp "Mediating Analyst". (this guy COULD be an ISFp IM type)


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...=independent_1
    INTj-ISFp "Mediating Analyst". Strong semblance to political commentator David Gergin, also INTj-ISFp.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...user=superdave
    Seems INTj-ISTj. "Pragmatic Analyst". Very outdoorsy.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...er=jovialsynco
    Seems INTj-INFj. "Empathic Analyst".


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...onbhar&photo=2
    INTj-ESFp "Political Analyst". Notice the strong Jeffersonian features and eloquent style. Concern with the future of humanity.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...php?user=door4
    INTj-ENFj "Mentoring Analyst". "Peace, prosperity just around the corner, could happen any time..."


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...ilmire&photo=1
    INTj-ESFj "Enthusiastic Analyst. "People draw out the real me."


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...wistar&photo=3
    INTj-ISFj "Guardian Analyst". Notice the importance of belief.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...earnestquixote
    INTj-ESTj "Administrative Analyst". Discipline, strong "S" build. Business-like viewpoint.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...er=winecountry
    Where have we seen this VI before? Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has similar features and beliefs.
    Not sure what his IE type is.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...er=dorianrosen
    The keywords seem to tell the tale: INTj-ENFp "Psychoanalyst". Notice the attention to Neitzsche and Jung.
    ...Or not. Discussion is ongoing as to this one. We know for a fact that labcoat is the psychoanalyst, therefore this guy must be something else if labcoat cannot find common ground with him.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...hp?user=katyak
    So much like UDP... INTj-ENTp "Inventing Analyst" -may- be it.


    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...ightly&photo=2
    So much similarity to Oyyburger. INTj-ISTp "Observing Analyst" is what we've concluded.



    If the pics are bad (as in, they shouldn't be here), tell me.

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    I'll post another photo sometime


    Apparently, according to my family, my face has been changing a lot ever time I see them
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    INTj-ISTp (isn't that what you said?):



    It's an old one, I've been on the other side of the camera lately.

    There's this one too:
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    I could believe it. (I've been having difficulty parsing people's words lately... could be stress over school.) But is it ISTp do you think, or INTp? That's a big thorn. (one of the two definitely, the question is which.) You said INTp before.

    I'm leaving it to you. What you decide I will try to work with.

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    Other people here have said INTp (NI specifically), I've questioned it but between INTj and INTp, INTj fits better. I seem to have some sensor qualities, but I've also had years and years of training to hone sensor qualities so I don't know what's learned now and what's natural. The first Socionics test I took scored IXTj, from VI what cross-type would you think I am?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg

    http://www.typetango.com/personal-pr...hp?user=katyak
    So much like UDP... INTj-ISTp "Crafing Analyst" probably. Lots of focus on creativity and craft.
    Hmm... I don't know. I don't really see myself with a guitar, but I could see INTj-ISTp I suppose. I don't really know what it means yet - I have not read much about your crosstype theory at all.

    I focus on creativity and craft?
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    No, he's referring to the hair and face structure. The first thought I had when I saw the pic was "why does UDP look so much older?" until a second glance told me that it wasn't you at all.
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    You do seem to have the eyes popin' and lockin', oyburger.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it were INTj-INFp or something like that. Or INTj-ISTp --- more so than myself. You seem a lot more crafty and so on. I do like to design and make things 'pretty' to an extent (such as websites), but I could never be an artist, and paint all the time, etc (with real paint). Not that that is exactly what you do, of course.
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    I'm originally an oil painter, I only do graphic design for money.
    I got into art as when I was about 4 because I was fascinated by the Renaissance Masters and I told my self that one day I'd paint, so that's what I did.

    I'm so much colder and crueler (according to the Feelers I know in real life) to be any sort of F. If I was, I'd be doing the F name injustice
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    Hmm.... I can see how it would be more comfortable to be nice to people online, etc. (based on your postings).


    But I INTj-ISTp it is for you, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    Hmm.... I can see how it would be more comfortable to be nice to people online, etc. (based on your postings).


    But I INTj-ISTp it is for you, then.
    lol, My politeness level notches up when I talk to strangers. I've had politeness beaten into me since I was a child, though even in the South I'm considered very rude.
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    Taken at the end of a long day, just getting out of a 4 hour event.
    So as you can see, now is about the time I would need an ESE to realize that and let me get my needed "alone time" / relaxing time / and then tell me to go to bed, etc.

    I'll post another, more "daytime" tomorrow when I am more alive.
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    Things tend to be more remote in the south. In East KY there lots of winding roads and shopping centers carved out of (and sometimes on top of) hillsides.

    ISTp... hmmm....

    I'll come back to this. I've been at this for hours now and my brain is fried.
    Oyyburger: it'd be nice to have a link to your work. I think it very insightful and mysterious.

    UDP:
    Yeah that's one of the reasons I'm doing this: It'd be great to have VI for our "perfect" duals, people who are our duals, but can naturally respect and admire what we do. That's why I think this resource is so important.

    On the other hand... there are very few ESFjs on TypeTango.

    Oyyburger:
    My politeness level notches up when I talk to strangers.
    So what is UDP? It seems (plausibly) INTj-ENTp or INTj-...? I'm not sure. Confirmation by labcoat regarding the INTj-ENFp would be helpful.

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    I was thinking, and INTj-ENTp might be possible.

    I seem so far removed from common reality - and I can do it fairly well on command - that such may be the case. When I am comfortable with people I may act EP.

    Really, the "a question" thread is about me.

    I feel very variable, and now my understanding of socionics futhers that. I can adapt myself quite extensively based on the situation, so long as it is in accordance to furthering my Ti view. But underneath, or at it's core, there is always the detachment.

    I had thought about INTj-ISTj, INTj-ESTj, INTj-ENTj, INTj-ENFj.... but I really have no idea what any of them mean anyways.


    I'm curious to see how I look tomorrow. I wanted to post that first shot, though, as I think it is telling to see people when they are 'worn out' somewhat.
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    .. is anyone else confused by the hyphenated types?

    But um, UDP looks sorta INFp in that pic so INTj-INFp from me.

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    ESTp-xxxx
    or
    xxxx-ESTp
    is not my dual.


    Consider it was taken at midnight after a long day.
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    This is a big question for me right now: who are the INTj-INTps and who are the INTj-ENTps? I probably need to read some Descartes. But I'm wondering, if you are INTj-ENTp, UDP, ...then who was David Hilbert? Anthony Hopkins?

    Let's look at each's agenda.

    INTj-INTp: hidden agenda , which enables actualization agenda . Together, "loving healthily" or "to bring people together in love." Same for Oyyburger.

    INTj-ENTp: same hidden agenda, but on behalf of : "healthy fame" or "fame for bringing people together", "being loved for bringing people together." Still another interpretation: letting others know they are loved by bringing them together.

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    are you saying these people are really the second type and not INTj? The one you posted that you said looks like oy looks like Kim to me.

    Edit: from what you said above I would be INTj-INTp. I also think I have the same expression as oy in VI.

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    I have no idea what to make of that, as bringing people together and love... they are not at all what I think about, at least in a direct way.


    Maybe the ENTp one over INTp
    bringing people together as in unity?
    Seeing all people as "one people" ? Maybe.


    what about those other crosstypes I listed a few posts back? What are those generally like, just so I could have an idea to compare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    are you saying these people are really the second type and not INTj? The one you posted that you said looks like oy looks like Kim to me.
    Apparently they are examples of his crosstype theory...........


    INTj is the main type, and the -types are the cross.
    I'm not hte one to explain it though
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    are you saying these people are really the second type and not INTj? The one you posted that you said looks like oy looks like Kim to me.
    Apparently they are examples of his crosstype theory...........


    INTj is the main type, and the -types are the cross.
    I'm not hte one to explain it though
    That's pretty much the gist of it.

    See this thread:
    oldforumlinkviewtopic.php?t=9865

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    Oyyburger: it'd be nice to have a link to your work. I think it very insightful and mysterious.
    I'm usually very shy about showing my work. I took some really crappy photos of a couple of them and have them here:1, 2, 3, 4.
    All my avatars are made by me also if that gives you some sort of idea.
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    Confirmation by labcoat regarding the INTj-ENFp would be helpful.
    Glad to oblige...

    Quote Originally Posted by Prospective INTj-ENFp
    alchemy, alice in wonderland, architecture, art, autumn, carl gustav jung, depeche mode, douglas adams, dreams, england, escapism, friedrich wilhelm nietzsche, ireland, irony, jesus christ, john ronald reuel tolkien, leonardo da vinci, literature, london, movies, neil gaiman, pablo picasso, painting, philosophy, photography, piano, poetry, psychology, radiohead, reading, religion, romanticism, roses, salvador dali, sarcasm, sex, stanley kubrick, surrealism, tarot, tori amos, vanity, wine, writing
    I could see myself showing fleeting interest in each one of these things, but to actually integrate them into my personality/lifestyle so as to profile myself with them like this guy does..? Not likely that I'd ever do that. A lot of the things mentioned like poetry, art and admittedly Nietzsche too, while interesting to me at first, mostly leave me gasping for substance after some time. The 'skimming the surface' stereotype of Ne dominance is very true for me in that regard.

    As for the facial traits; very angular, square features. Mine are much softer. There isn't much resemblance, to tell you the truth.

    But then, I don't remotely resemble Freud either. Decide for yourself what that means about my type or theirs.

    *edit* that was perhaps a bit overly negative; not saying he is definitely not 'my type', just I have no strong reasons to believe he is either.

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    Thank you for your analysis, labcoat.

    We've still not seen your VI.

    Here's mine (more or less)


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    INTj-ENFp doesn't strike me as 'me' at all
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    Today.
    I believe I look more hollow when I take the photos myself (?) don't really know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    I believe I look more hollow when I take the photos myself (?) don't really know.
    Yeah so do I, it's the "dead" eyes. It's something about posing in a relaxed manner.
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    The final photo will be tomorrow, when I have actually gone through my routine, and interacted with others. I am curious to see how I look then.
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    Took that when I was bored at my friend's house. Even if I don't end up being INTj, I'm still alpha so I'm still going to post this here.
    "To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"

    "Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."

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    Mysticsonic=INTj>INTp>Martian>ENTp>anything else
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    mysticsonic is like the intj's intj.

    ILE

    those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often

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    I'll post a bunch more on this when I get the opportunity.

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    Do I look more like INTj or INFj?





    Edit: I took the other pics off, this one may be left for future generations.
    Edit: I put the other two back again.
    Intuition

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    INTx
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyburger
    INTx
    agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas05
    Do I look more like INTj or INFj?



    Edit: I took the other pics off, this one may be left for future generations.
    I could believe INTp. I've got an INTp friend who VIs very similarly.

    Do you see things happening on a timeline of sorts? Like counting things?

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    One pose and three candid shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas05
    Do I look more like INTj or INFj?
    you should post one without glasses on

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    Ah... Logos.... -- LII

    You remind me of both me and another LII I know, which is kind of scary, because the other LII is someone I don't want to be like
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    Heh. Logos, you are one of the few INTjs I've seen who actually looks similar to me. What subtype are you?

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