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    Okay, my taste changes rapidly. You could ask me what my top 5 favorite bands are today, and at least two of them would be different tomorrow morning.

    Right now, I'm listening to a lot of stuff by:

    Beck
    Blue Man Group
    Oomph! (From Germany)
    Rise Against (vocalist is a TOTAL INFp, and happens to be totally and completely awesome)
    Timo Rautiainen & Trio Niskalaukaus (these guys are from Finland)
    Dr. Octagon (the only rap I like. It's really perverted too, I can't tell you how many times I've heard the word 'rectum' said throughout the album)
    Tool
    Muse
    A bunch of other German bands (including Rammstein, Eisbrecher, etc.)
    Nightwish (also from Finland)
    Daddy Yankee (so fucking sue me, it's catchy. )
    Jaga Jazzist (when jazz and electronica meet and have hot sex)
    Rolling Stones (because of the influence of a really hot ESTp guy )


    I like a lot of foreign stuff, and I'm ESTp / SLE.
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    I can listen to just about everything... however here are some of the artists I enjoy (the order is irrelevant)...

    Celine Dion
    Anggun
    Dido
    Oliver Shanti
    Sting
    Maggie Rilley
    Lonestar
    Eagles
    Loreena McKennitt
    Eric Clapton
    Nina Simone
    Billie Holliday
    Bryan Adams
    Amedeo Minghi
    Chris Isaak
    Deep Forest
    Era
    Fleetwood Mac
    Gary Moore
    Enya and Moya Brennan
    Sarah McLachlan
    Van Morrison ("Someone like you" has been designated the song I'll start my weading with... now all I have to do is find someone I could sing that song to)
    U2
    Leonard Cohen
    and a lot of others...
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    Beta has the best taste in music.

    I go more on the music itself than the artists. Some of my favorite albums... in no particular order:
    Ponselle Prima Voce - A compilation of recordings of soprano Rosa Ponselle (Opera)
    Inspiration Information - Shuggie Otis (Funk-Rock-Psychedelic - look him up!)
    Lady Day: The Best of Billie Holiday - A compilation of recordings of Billie Holiday (Jazz)
    In Utero - Nirvana (Rock)
    This Girl's In Love With You - Aretha Franklin (Soul)
    Surfer Rosa - The Pixies
    Piano Concertos no. 2 and 3 - Dmitri Yablonsky and the Russian State Symphony Orchestra (Classical)
    Live at Fillmore East - The Allman Brothers Band (Southern Rock)
    Blue Wild Angel: Live at the Isle of Wight - Jimi Hendrix (Rock)
    La Traviata: sung in Russian - Alexander Ivanovich Orlov, Alexander Melik-Pashaev, composed by Giussepe Verdi (Opera)
    Raw Power - Iggy and the Stooges (Rock)
    Carmen - Solange Michel, Michel Dens, Raoul Jobin, composed by Georges Bizet
    Black Fire - Kalyi Jag (Hungarian Gypsy Music)
    Bob Dylan - Bob Dylan (Folk)
    The Harlem Nutcracker - Dave Berger and the Sultans of Swing, composed by Duke Ellington (Jazz)
    Symphony no. 14 - Czech-Slovak Radio Symphony Orchestra, composed by Dmitri Shostakovitch (Modernist)
    Grace - Jeff Buckley (Rock - one of the greatest albums ever produced)
    ... and many more!

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    Well, what do you think? If Beta even had a music type do you think it would be loud or deep music that causes harsh emotional atmosphere?

    Some possible bands/performers that I can think of at the top of my head...

    Norma Jean
    Test Icicles
    A Static Lullaby
    The blood brothers
    Nirvana
    Radiohead (INFp band??)
    Young jock
    AC/DC
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    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall
    Well, what do you think? If Beta even had a music type do you think it would be loud or deep music that causes harsh emotional atmosphere?
    Why necessarily "harsh"? Why not an intense emotional atmosphere?

    Anyway, Tori Amos and Regina Spektor.

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    nirvana...
    someone needs to shoot cobain in the face

    Oh wait..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    nirvana...
    someone needs to shoot cobain in the face
    I completely agree, but unfortunately he's dead.

    Anyway the most beta band ever is Rage Against the Machine, imho. I'd say alpha/beta, just on the peak of Ti/Fe creative.
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    Disturbed (particularly "Prayer") - one of my favorite

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    id concider radiohead alpha....assuming i was stupid enough to try to assign bands to quadras


    okay yes, certain feelings are envoked, and thoughts, with different music. which can allow you to catagorize them with quadra values.


    but no, because bands write different songs. they have different sounds for each song (normally) and also, a lot of bands allow all the band members to write their own songs. so if anything is to be typed here, its the people who write and play the music.
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    oh yes, I completely forgot about Rage Against the Machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    id concider radiohead alpha....assuming i was stupid enough to try to assign bands to quadras
    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    so if anything is to be typed here, its the people who write and play the music.
    I think a lot of the band members from radiohead are INFp, though the general music feels Alpha I suppose.
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    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall
    oh yes, I completely forgot about Rage Against the Machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    id concider radiohead alpha....assuming i was stupid enough to try to assign bands to quadras
    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    so if anything is to be typed here, its the people who write and play the music.
    I think a lot of the band members from radiohead are INFp, though the general music feels Alpha I suppose.

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    umm... I think these bands (lyrics-wise anyways) represent INFp

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    Blonde Redhead
    Depeche Mode
    New Order
    Bright Eyes
    The Faint
    The Cardigans
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    I think the corrs are IEI. They always stuck me as being IEI.

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    misutii and snegledmaca have named some really good bands.

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    I don't know if one could call these bands "beta", but here are a few of my favorites:

    NIN (Trent may be INFP)
    Tool
    HIM (dark romanticism - very INFP)
    Tori Amos
    Regina Spektor
    Soundgarden
    Disturbed
    Coldplay (Chris Martin - ENFJ)
    The Beatles
    Sigur Ros (dreamy, ethereal, and altogether exquisite)

    And my craving for shows itself in my love for Pink (ESTP singer), thrash metal, techno, and the occasional bump 'n grind rap song .

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    My favorite bands are:

    System of a Down
    Stars
    Okkervil River
    Wu Tang Clan
    The Decemberists
    Bjork
    A perfect Circle/Tool

    I'm a lover of music, so my list stretches far and wide but the groups i named are ones I never get tired of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    umm... I think these bands (lyrics-wise anyways) represent INFp

    Placebo
    Blonde Redhead
    Depeche Mode
    New Order
    Bright Eyes
    The Faint
    The Cardigans
    I luv placebo's song "Post Blue". I think The Frey, Vega4, Nickelback, Maroon 5, Evanescence are all excellent bands.
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    Red Hot Chili Peppers are beta, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ataronchronon
    Red Hot Chili Peppers are beta, right?

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    Just a Note: In most of the music-to-quadra threads in which Radiohead is mentioned, it usually is in fact put into Beta. And I happen to agree.
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    radiohead rocks! I listened to ok computer today and the offtimed guitar on track 5 is really neat. A few friends of mine played a cover of 'ok computer' on halloween one year and i did all the lighting. It kind of sucked because they played drab music to a bunch of dressed up teenagers who couldn't give a shit less. but the lights were great.
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    Uncertain about some of these, but:

    Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark
    Pet Shop Boys
    The Teardrop Explodes
    The Cure
    U2
    Joy Division (-> New Order)
    Jesus and Mary Chain
    T-Rex
    Echo and the Bunnymen
    Interpol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    Uncertain about some of these, but:

    Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark
    Pet Shop Boys
    The Teardrop Explodes
    The Cure
    U2
    Joy Division (-> New Order)
    Jesus and Mary Chain
    T-Rex
    Echo and the Bunnymen
    Interpol
    subterranean, how old are you? this list is suspiciously 80's....:-)

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    *cough* I was born in 1986...honest. But that was a Beta decade music wise, wasn't it? Appallingly bad fashions, OTT electro music...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    *cough* I was born in 1986...honest. But that was a Beta decade music wise, wasn't it? Appallingly bad fashions, OTT electro music...
    How can a decade be in a quadra, c'mon now.

    It was the decade of coke, ugly hair, and bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    *cough* I was born in 1986...honest. But that was a Beta decade music wise, wasn't it? Appallingly bad fashions, OTT electro music...
    How can a decade be in a quadra, c'mon now.
    Actually...

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    By saying that a certain thing is/was a (*****) quadra, all it means that the time/thing exemplified the quadra elements/the time period/country has the quadra elements at the forefont of it's expression.

    Honestly, how is that so hard to understand??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataronchronon
    Red Hot Chili Peppers are beta, right?
    Yar.

    Beta music...I think metal, emo, and rap most immediately (this compiles most of my Beta friends listen to), but obviously it can't be limited by those categories.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    Quote Originally Posted by ataronchronon
    Red Hot Chili Peppers are beta, right?
    Yar.

    Beta music...I think metal, emo, and rap most immediately (this compiles most of my Beta friends listen to), but obviously it can't be limited by those categories.

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    Ummm...I said that's not all there is That's all that comes to mind ATM. Sorry, I don't listen to a lot of much I would consider "Beta music" other than rap...

    Actually, Billy Joel would probably be Beta. How's that work for you?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    What does work for you? We'll say that then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    *cough* I was born in 1986...honest. But that was a Beta decade music wise, wasn't it? Appallingly bad fashions, OTT electro music...
    How can a decade be in a quadra, c'mon now.

    It was the decade of coke, ugly hair, and bullshit.
    hey man, the hair was cool at the time, lol. at least women's hair. we did have a total blast in the 80's...just ask slackermom if you don't believe me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    What does work for you? We'll say that then.
    'We' might as well, seeing as half of Alpha are already in this thread .


    Quote Originally Posted by diamond8
    Quote Originally Posted by Clover
    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean
    *cough* I was born in 1986...honest. But that was a Beta decade music wise, wasn't it? Appallingly bad fashions, OTT electro music...
    How can a decade be in a quadra, c'mon now.

    It was the decade of coke, ugly hair, and bullshit.
    hey man, the hair was cool at the time, lol. at least women's hair. we did have a total blast in the 80's...just ask slackermom if you don't believe me.
    photos, plz?
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKDzMyzlGxo[/youtube]

    Mika - Love Today (he's probably an ENFj.)

    Lyrics
    I've been crying for so long,
    Fighting tears just to carry on,
    But now, but now, it's gone away.

    Hey girl why can't you carry on, (carry on)
    Is it cuz you're just like your mother,
    A little tight, like to tease for fun, (tease for fun)
    Well you ain't gonna tease no other,
    Gonna make you a lover!

    Everybody's gonna love today,
    love today, love today.
    Everybody's gonna love today,
    Anyway you want to, anyway you've got to,
    Love love me, love love me, love love.
    Girl in the blue with the big bust on
    Big bust on, big bust on.
    Wait till your mamma and your papa's gone,
    Papa's gone!
    Mamma, mamma papa, shock shock me,
    Shock shock me, shock shock.

    Everybody's gonna love today,
    Gonna love today, gonna love today
    I said,
    Everybody's gonna love today, gonna love today,
    Anyway you want to, anyway you've got to,
    Love love me, love love me, love love.

    Carolina sits on '95,
    Give her a dollar and she'll make you smile.

    [ Lyrics found on http://www.metrolyrics.com ]

    Hook her, book her, nook her, walk away!

    Girl dresses like a kid for fun, (kid for fun)
    Licks her lips like they're something on them (something on them)
    Tries to tell you life has just begun, (just begun)
    Now you know she's getting something other
    Than the love from her mother

    Everybody's gonna love today,
    Love today, love today
    Everybody's gonna love today,
    Anyway you want to, anyway you've got to,
    Love love me, love love me, love love.

    Girl in the blue with the big bust on,
    Big bust on, big bust on.
    Wait till your mamma and your papa's gone,
    Papa's gone
    mamma, mamma papa, shock shock me,
    Shock shock me, shock shock me


    Everybody's gonna love today,
    Gonna love today, gonna love today

    [Everybody's gonna love today,
    Gonna love today,
    Anyway you want to, anyway you've got to,
    Love love me, love love me, love love.
    Doom da da di da di Doom da da di da di Doom da da di da di Doom da da di da di...
    Doom da da di da di Doom da da di da di Doom da da di da di Doom da da di da di...]

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    It's a God awful small affair
    To the girl with the mousey hair,
    But her mummy is yelling, "No!"
    And her daddy has told her to go,
    But her friend is no where to be seen.
    Now she walks through her sunken dream
    To the seats with the clearest view
    And she's hooked to the silver screen,
    But the film is sadd'ning bore
    For she's lived it ten times or more.
    She could spit in the eyes of fools
    As they ask her to focus on

    Sailors
    Fighting in the dance hall.
    Oh man!
    Look at those cavemen go.
    It's the freakiest show.
    Take a look at the lawman
    Beating up the wrong guy.
    Oh man!
    Wonder if he'll ever know
    He's in the best selling show.
    Is there life on Mars?

    It's on America's tortured brow
    That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow.
    Now the workers have struck for fame
    'Cause Lennon's on sale again.
    See the mice in their million hordes
    From Ibeza to the Norfolk Broads.
    Rule Britannia is out of bounds
    To my mother, my dog, and clowns,
    But the film is a sadd'ning bore
    'Cause I wrote it ten times or more.
    It's about to be writ again
    As I ask you to focus on

    Sailors
    Fighting in the dance hall.
    Oh man!
    Look at those cavemen go.
    It's the freakiest show.
    Take a look at the lawman
    Beating up the wrong guy.
    Oh man!
    Wonder if he'll ever know
    He's in the best selling show.
    Is there life on Mars?
    INFp-Ni

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    Coil
    Autechre ( pair of N Alpha+Beta i guess or just beta)
    Aphex Twin (ENFj/INFp sure)
    Viktor Tsoy / KINO (ENFj sure)


    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaXqU7hVVhI&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqQktg9brDY&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWGUnrIiOoI&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

    this is one great one and ultra-beta
    incredible :

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aj5JFbM3ig&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

    Instead of fire - there's only smoke.
    Instead of warmth - cold.
    Another day is crossed out on the calendar grid.
    The red shining sun has completely burned out,
    And this day goes out with it,
    And over a glowing city, the shadow will fall

    Changes!
    It's the demand of our hearts.
    Changes!
    It's the demand of our eyes.
    In our laughter, in our tears, and the pulse in our veins.
    Changes!
    We waiting for changes!


    Bright electric light continues our day,
    And the box of matches is empty,
    But in the kitchen, like a blue flower, gas burns.
    Cigarettes in our hands, tea on the table,
    So this scheme is easy,
    And there's nothing more left, it's all up to us.

    Changes!
    It's the demand of our hearts.
    Changes!
    It's the demand of our eyes.
    In our laughter, in our tears, and the pulse in our veins.
    Changes!
    We waiting for changes!

    We cannot brag about the wisdom in our eyes,
    And our gestures are not very skilled,
    But even without all of that - understanding remains.
    Cigarettes in our hands, tea on the table,
    That's how the circle is filled,
    And suddenly we've become scared to change something.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqkjmkgv-U&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

    A song without words, a night without dreams,
    All in due time come winter and spring
    Each star has its own part of the sky,
    Each sea has its own share of rain,
    Every apple has a place to fall,
    Each thief will have an opportunity to steal,
    Every dog has a stick and a bone,
    And every wolf has teeth and anger...

    Again, it's a white day outside,
    This day calls me to fight,
    I feel, as I close my eyes, -
    The world is at war with me...

    If there is a herd, there's also a shepherd
    If there's a body, there should be a soul,
    If there's a step, then there should be a footprint
    If there's darkness, there should be light
    Do you want to change the world
    Can you accept it as it is,
    Will you rise and step out of the common crowd,
    Will you sit on an electric chair, or a throne?
    Ni Creative

    there are 3 levels of sword mastery :
    1.: ability to win with sword in your hand.
    2.: ability to win without sword in your hand, but in your soul.
    3, and the hightest one: without having sword nor in hand not in soul be able to win and bring peace to people.

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    A few bands that I can think of that seem to show lots of Beta Quadra values:

    Megaherz / Eisbrecher
    Turmion Kätilöt
    KMFDM
    Rammstein
    Rise Against
    HORSE The Band
    Unheilig
    Rage Against the Machine
    Tool (Maynard appears to be hardcore INFp) / A Perfect Circle
    Machinae Supremacy
    Apulanta (maybe?)
    Agent M
    Depeche Mode
    Combichrist

    I want to add Futuristic Sex Robotz too, but I think their stuff may have been written by INTps.
    , Se-sub
    8w8-3w8-7w8 sx/sx

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    Linkin Park
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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