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    Default Stephen Hawking...

    He's an INTj-ENTp, a member of the spacetime rational temperament. (collectively, "XNTx")

    Other members of this temperament...

    Albert Einstein, ENTp-INTj
    Jacob Bekenstein, INTj-ENTp

    Others forthcoming... but I suspect that just about everybody who works with relativity theory specifically is one of these four types.

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    I've read in MBTI and Keirsey that einstein was INTP.

    (even google says: did you mean "einstein intp" when i search einstein intj)

    As i have read some phrases from books of him, i can relate to them clearly. And his rebelliousness and lazyness in his behaviour aren't typical INTJ or ENTJ characteristics.


    By the way I think Andrew Wiles who solved the last theorem of Fermat is an INTJ after reading a book about it.


    I'm not sure what type Stephen Hawking is... although i've read that he is a big star trek fan :wink:


    well... these are just my opinions.

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    I'm actually inclined to revise my opinion of Hawking's type to ENTj-INTp... nevermind, I need to do more research.

    But Einstein was definitely ENTp-INTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    I'm actually inclined to revise my opinion of Hawking's type to ENTj-INTp... nevermind, I need to do more research.

    But Einstein was definitely ENTp-INTj.
    What arguments do you have about einsteins type? A lot of people would disagree. And why 2 types?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno
    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    I'm actually inclined to revise my opinion of Hawking's type to ENTj-INTp... nevermind, I need to do more research.

    But Einstein was definitely ENTp-INTj.
    What arguments do you have about einsteins type? A lot of people would disagree. And why 2 types?
    There are pretty strong arguments for ENTp in Einstein's case. There are some rather strong arguments for INTp too, but the MBTI community could very well be wrong about Einstein's type.

    I don't know what kind of creature an ENTp-INTj is in tcaudillg's opinion. Einstein was clearly not an INTj, anyway, and not a typical INTp either (he had a too positive attitude in general for example) so ENTp (of some sort) makes sense. One thing we can know for sure is that Einstein had Asperger's Syndrome (whatever that phenomenon turns out to be when we will come to know its neuro-biological nature in more detail in a not too distant future).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Einstein was clearly not an INTj, anyway, and not a typical INTp either (he had a too positive attitude in general for example) so ENTp (of some sort) makes sense.
    too positive? wouldn't agree with that reading the things he said. and btw INTP aren't that negative.
    Richard Feynman is an ENTP, if you would compare him and einstein you would certainly know that einstein is not an ENTP.

    Einstein himself reported to be a loner, having nearly no social live.

    And asperger syndrome (autism) is a form of more extreme introversion if i'm correct.

    I even dare to say that einstein is a stereotype of an INTP.

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    Hm.. as far as type goes theory pretty much dictates that the INTp is the most negatively criticizing type, this due to their occupying the top of 'negativist' and 'narrator' at the comfortable vantage point of an intuitive thinker. Also Richard Feynman is labeled an ENTj on Rick Delong's site, and Rick's typings generally proove to be very reliable.

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    I would say Hawking is ENTp.

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    I'm actually thinking he may be ENTj-INTp. Surely he has won himself the hidden agenda of "strong love." He is the modern face of physics and millions look to him for inspiration with regard to life's mysteries. If that's not strong love I'm not sure what is. He is also highly respected for his struggle with illness. If is his hidden agenda, then he's facing a tough life indeed.

    ENTp-INTj means that a person invents a situation in their mind and then analyzes its content. For example, a person who spends their entire life on a train that does not stop might well conclude that the train remains motionless and the world endlessly passes by. INTj slave asks what the person will conclude given this imagined situation, which prompts ENTp master to produce a statement of that person's reality as relative to that situation. It's basically hard-wired thought experimentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    I'm actually thinking he may be ENTj-INTp. Surely he has won himself the hidden agenda of "strong love." He is the modern face of physics and millions look to him for inspiration with regard to life's mysteries. If that's not strong love I'm not sure what is.
    what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms. Kensington
    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    I'm actually thinking he may be ENTj-INTp. Surely he has won himself the hidden agenda of "strong love." He is the modern face of physics and millions look to him for inspiration with regard to life's mysteries. If that's not strong love I'm not sure what is.
    what?
    Read my crosstype hidden agendas thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    I'm actually thinking he may be ENTj-INTp. Surely he has won himself the hidden agenda of "strong love." He is the modern face of physics and millions look to him for inspiration with regard to life's mysteries. If that's not strong love I'm not sure what is. He is also highly respected for his struggle with illness. If is his hidden agenda, then he's facing a tough life indeed.

    ENTp-INTj means that a person invents a situation in their mind and then analyzes its content. For example, a person who spends their entire life on a train that does not stop might well conclude that the train remains motionless and the world endlessly passes by. INTj slave asks what the person will conclude given this imagined situation, which prompts ENTp master to produce a statement of that person's reality as relative to that situation. It's basically hard-wired thought experimentation.
    hmm, this is some akward spiritual-like explanation. It's still not clear what you mean by ENTP-INTJ, does it mean that the person has 2 types in his behaviour? It almost looks as if you are creating some new type-theory based on non-existing situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    hmm, this is some akward spiritual-like explanation. It's still not clear what you mean by ENTP-INTJ, does it mean that the person has 2 types in his behaviour? It almost looks as if you are creating some new type-theory based on non-existing situations.
    HAH-HAH. That's Tcaud for you.

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    Yeah, it's called Socionics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by labocat View Post
    Hm.. as far as type goes theory pretty much dictates that the INTp is the most negatively criticizing type, this due to their occupying the top of 'negativist' and 'narrator' at the comfortable vantage point of an intuitive thinker. Also Richard Feynman is labeled an ENTj on Rick Delong's site, and Rick's typings generally proove to be very reliable.
    I type him INTp and for the reasons which you've stated; negatively critical...just like Megadoomer.

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