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    Has anyone seen this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar:_The_Last_Airbender

    Let me start out by saying that I know this is a kids show on Nickelodeon. I don't care. It's good. Travis and I watched it as a mother son thing, and I looked forward to the episodes even more than he did.

    Aang: ESFp
    Katara: Exxj (Te > Fe probably)
    Sokka: ESTp
    Toph Bei Fong: ISTp
    Zuko: xxFx (probably he's my second favorite character)
    Azula: ENFj
    Iroh: xNxx (he's my favorite character <3 I thought perhaps a wise old INFp?)
    Mai: IxTx
    Suki: xxxx
    Ty Lee: ISFp?
    Admiral Zhao: ESTp?

    Anyways, as typical with fictional characters, not all fit into specific types very well.
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    nope

    I only watch Bob the Builder all cartoons are teh suck.

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    Now... since there are finally people here who've watched Avatar... What do you think the character's types are? Most of them are difficult to type. Here are my guesses:

    Aang: ESFp. ENFp could make sense, too.

    Katara: Some sort of EJ I would imagine? She's a tough one. Te > Fe most likely.

    Sokka: ESTp is my best guess. ESTj would be my second choice.

    Toph Bei Fong: ISTp for sure

    Zuko: Hard to say... there's a strong focus on ethics, but I don't know if it's because he has an ethical dual seeking function that's in dire need of being filled or because he's ethical. He's my second favorite character, which says a lot because there are a lot of awesome characters. I could see him as just about any Beta or Gamma.

    Azula: ENFj for sure

    Iroh: INxp, most likely? He's my favorite character. It seems like he either supervises Zuko or is his beneficiary, but that could just be their roles in each other's lives

    Mai: ISTp? I'm pretty curious about her type, actually. You wouldn't think she'd get along with Azula so well if they were conflictors though. And you wouldn't think she'd complain so much.

    Suki: I'm really not sure about her... seems rational, too quite to be EJ? ISTj would be my guess, for now.

    Ty Lee: ISFp

    Admiral Zhao: ESTp?

    Jet: ESTp? Or something?

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    I'm not trolling but I never could get into this show, and I usually am a bitch for mythology/sci-fi stuff. Seemed way too 'bland' to me for some reason.

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    Aang: I am more inclined to say that he is an IEE as the "rough-housing and teasing" which you associated with Luffy as being SEE is not present in Aang at all. In fact he does not seem to be like an SEE at all. But at the same time the problem with IEE is that he does not seem to be a likely candidate for Toph's dual. But I would not doubt that he is an SEE as he annoys the crap out of me.

    Katara: Yeah, I would say Te/Fi > Ti/Fe for her, though probably Delta as she is all about "positive reinforcement" and being nice to Aang in her teaching style, which would probably not be an ILI, and I am not sure if she is much of a LIE.

    Sokka: Oddly enough, I would probably say ILE for Sokka since he seems to have more as personal knowledge and actively uses as a means to grasp the situation or find a potential way to solve the problem, but I can definitely see why one could potentially think LSE or SLE for him. It is just that I see a greater preference for Fe > Fi with Sokka, which is one of the ways in which his romances seem to differ from ::ahem:: Kataang.

    Toph: Part of the problem with typing her is her tough girl act as a compensation for being thought weak for her blindness, but I would say SLI.

    Zuko: He is definitely hard to say since his life is rather screwed up and his personality post-burn seems to be rather forced or unnatural to how he seemed to be prior to the burn.

    Iroh: I am sorry, but Iroh is all about his and Jasmine Tea much to the frustrations of the Fire Nation, so I am guessing SEI. :wink:

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    Sometimes I want to watch these series just so I can come in here and tell you all you're wrong.
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    Earth - Delta
    Sky - Alpha NT
    Fountain - ISFj
    Wind - Dean Koontz

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Wind - Dean Koontz
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    Alright, so far we've got:
    Aang: IEE
    Sokka: ILE
    Toph: SLI
    Iroh: SEI
    Zuko: EMO
    Katara: Gamma

    And what about the Fire Nation Trio?
    Azula: LIE
    Mai: introverted L
    Tai Lee: ExE

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    How I see it:

    Aang: IEE
    Sokka: ILE
    The Mechanist ILE
    Toph: SLI
    Iroh: SEI
    Zuko: LSI
    Katara: ESI
    Jet (rebel): SLI
    Earth King: IEE
    King of Omashu (old guy): ILE
    Long Feng (Gestapo guy): LSI
    Suki (Sokka's girlfriend): SLI?

    Azula: LIE
    Mai: ILI if I've ever seen one
    Tai Lee: SEE
    --> three Gamma friends

    overall evaluation:
    Earth: Gamma --> most of all nations (+ because of strong defense, major war nation)
    Fire: Beta --> -overflow (+ because of the high developed Industry)
    Air: Alpha/Delta --> peaceful monks, very spiritual, focus on intuition
    Water: Delta --> tribes, strong community, focus on

    I liked the show, better quality than your average cartoon in both story and appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer
    Katara: ESI
    Mai: ILI if I've ever seen one
    Makes sense...

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer
    Tai Lee: SEE
    Fi > Fe ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Ness View Post
    Fi > Fe ?!
    You're right, that might be a bit off. But if she's a Fe-ego I'd say ESE>EIE.
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    I've only seen Book 1: Water so far.

    Aang: An irrational feeler. Other than that I haven't decided.

    Katara: I can identify with her, so LSE works.

    Sokka: ILE works for Sokka. SLE and LSE don't.

    Zuko: My SLE brother identifies with him, so he can be SLE until I have a reason why not.

    Admiral Zhao: ESTp

    Iroh: E9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Zuko: My SLE brother identifies with him, so he can be SLE until I have a reason why not.
    I think he's a pretty obvious Introvert. I'm not entirely sure of LSI, but he's no extrovert imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie
    Iroh: E9
    Yay, enneagram types!

    Somebody better type the characters before me bcuz I'm inclined to type all of them 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer
    You're right, that might be a bit off. But if she's a Fe-ego I'd say ESE>EIE.
    I would agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Ness View Post
    Yay, enneagram types!

    Somebody better type the characters before me bcuz I'm inclined to type all of them 7.
    Do these work?

    Aang: 7
    Katara: 3
    Sokka: 6?
    Zuko: 4, 5, or 6
    Admiral Zhao: 8
    Iroh: 9

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Aang: 7
    Katara: 3
    Sokka: 6?
    Zuko: 4, 5, or 6
    Admiral Zhao: 8
    Iroh: 9
    I'm not even gonna try Katara. Or Zuko. But, those look good to me. Sokka can be a scaredy cat.

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    I think Zuko is a 6.
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    Katara - ESI (at least from season 2 onward). I could also accept IEI, but I find it less likely. Ni is only a significant part of her information portfolio very early on until her character settles down into being Team Mom. Pretty obviously Se creative in how in control of stuff around her she is.

    I would also accept SEI if a convincing case could be made for it, but I don't really see that happening.

    Sokka - SLI. Difficult to type, being comic relief and having no consistent personality or characteristics. The only things we have about him are that he's a logical thinker, apt and pragmatic inventor, and has a melancholic temperament. The Intelligent Dumbass Sensor.

    Aang - ? Hard to see him as having any individual personality. He's a mischievous Air nomad (Ne dominants. ALL OF THEM.) wrapped in a mediating Avatar role. He has even less personality once he picks up the Drama Ball.

    General Iroh - SEI, of the fat, lazy, good-for-nothing comic relief variety. Which is every SEI in fiction ever.

    Zuko - SLE.

    Toph - Hard to say? Some kind of ST. Herp derp earthbenders. Whatever she is, she's my hero along with General Iroh.

    I agree Zuko is a 6. His whole existence is trying to redeem himself in the eyes of his nation and his father.

    I could see Aang being a 9. He's characterised as a mediator. How he reacts to Appa's loss is pretty typical Positive Outlook, and not necessarily exclusive to 7s.

    The Water tribes are both Judicious. The Southern tribe seems like an Alpha counterculture to the main Delta civilisation of the North tribe. The swamp tribe is never characterised.

    The Earth Kingdom is too diverse to have an integral type applied to it. Except perhaps that they're Non-null.

    The Fire Nation seems like they'd be integrally LSI. They're a bad caricature of negative Beta stereotypes, albeit from an Alpha P.O.V. (how do Deltas negatively characterise Betas? Compare the Empire from Star Wars to the Goa'uld from Stargate).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaDoomer View Post
    I think he's a pretty obvious Introvert. I'm not entirely sure of LSI, but he's no extrovert imho.
    I can see the introverted impression, but his life is externally-driven. He's trying to restore his honor, gain back his throne, chase down the Avatar, etc, etc.

    One important characterising arc in Season 2 is where Zuko has to figure out who he is after leading his entirely externally-driven life up until that point. Iroh even flips out at him for not looking inside and asking himself the "big questions" such as "Who am I?"

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    I also struggle to see Azula as anything other than a Se dominant. She's tricky to type, being a Hollywood Psychopath, but her entire character is built around her ambitions and dominance-seeking. She's too expert at manipulating people to get her way in a very Se way, ruling out EIE.

    SLE, of the psychopathic variety. Blue flames, lightning, and everything.

    I don't see where her personality emphasises Te or Ni in any way.

    I also like Sokka as an ILE, but if we're making him an Alpha, I think LII works a whole lot better, just based on how critical he is of other people being ridiculous idiots (one aspect of his melancholic temperament...) I still like SLI the best, but he just doesn't seem like he'd be Toph's identical, and I would otherwise peg her as an SLI. I suppose that can be adequately hand-waved by bringing up that he is largely just comic relief.

    Plus, do you see an Alpha NT being a "brave warrior"? That's the only aspect of his personality not played for laughs. Though his continued emotional commitment to Yue could be Fi PoLR.

    Basically his character is an inconsistent mess. He's comic relief. He doesn't have a singular type, the writers just have their way with him.

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    I think Sokka is too comfortable around people to be an IT.
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    Katara - ESI (at least from season 2 onward). I could also accept IEI, but I find it less likely. Ni is only a significant part of her information portfolio very early on until her character settles down into being Team Mom. Pretty obviously Se creative in how in control of stuff around her she is.

    I would also accept SEI if a convincing case could be made for it, but I don't really see that happening.

    Sokka - SLI. Difficult to type, being comic relief and having no consistent personality or characteristics. The only things we have about him are that he's a logical thinker, apt and pragmatic inventor, and has a melancholic temperament. The Intelligent Dumbass Sensor.

    Aang - ? Hard to see him as having any individual personality. He's a mischievous Air nomad (Ne dominants. ALL OF THEM.) wrapped in a mediating Avatar role. He has even less personality once he picks up the Drama Ball.

    General Iroh - SEI, of the fat, lazy, good-for-nothing comic relief variety. Which is every SEI in fiction ever.

    Zuko - SLE.

    Toph - Hard to say? Some kind of ST. Herp derp earthbenders. Whatever she is, she's my hero along with General Iroh.

    I agree Zuko is a 6. His whole existence is trying to redeem himself in the eyes of his nation and his father.

    I could see Aang being a 9. He's characterised as a mediator. How he reacts to Appa's loss is pretty typical Positive Outlook, and not necessarily exclusive to 7s.

    The Water tribes are both Judicious. The Southern tribe seems like an Alpha counterculture to the main Delta civilisation of the North tribe. The swamp tribe is never characterised.

    The Earth Kingdom is too diverse to have an integral type applied to it. Except perhaps that they're Non-null.

    The Fire Nation seems like they'd be integrally LSI. They're a bad caricature of negative Beta stereotypes, albeit from an Alpha P.O.V. (how do Deltas negatively characterise Betas? Compare the Empire from Star Wars to the Goa'uld from Stargate).
    I finished watching the series. I think Zuko is a Gamma introvert. May might be an ESI. The girl whose name I can't spell is an Alpha SF.

    How is creative controlling environment? Katara is certainly not an IEI. ESI may be possible; I don't know many ESIs. But the motherly way she tries to control people sure seems XSE to me.

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    Hey what's with all the hate on Zuko?! I fucking love this guy, because I feel like I can relate to him in every aspect of his life. His ego is broken from a crazy, zany, narcissistic family. He's the black sheep.. Deep down he just wants to be loved and accepted.. I guess this says a lot about my type because of how much I can just "get" him. Anyways I <3 him and I find him relatable in so many ways. He just wants to be loved and accepted.

    BIPOLAR/PTSD for Zuko. He had an NF mom that he absolutely loved (Always believed in him and rooted for him), and the loss of that significant, loving figure is what caused him a lot of pain too.. You people just need to understand lol >

    I grew up feeling a lot like Zuko. The black sheep outcast of my family. Unstable af.. I don't even really know if we really have solid personality types.. Anyways, he's the underdog of the society, the emo outcast... But mannn Uncle Iroh was a very good influence on Zuko. He kept that kid in line.. I think Iroh is an interesting, well rounded character... He's Ixxp for sure. A witty one. He really stabilizes Zuko.

    Anyhoo you guys can see how much this show touches my heart lolol. Zuko is a frustrated, abused, mentally disturbed and broken so its hard to pinpoint an exact type.

    Anyways I'm a bit tipsy as a write this lol.

    Aang - He's really young but very emotionally mature. Not sure about his type yet..
    Katara - Hmmm... ILE. She's a tough cookie
    Sokka - Infantile strategist NT
    Toph - Muahh xoxo my favourite, a super bold and cute SLI
    Suki - SEE/ESI
    Azula - SEE who's the golden child of the Beta ST Firelord
    Mai - This girl is interesting.. She might be a super dark SEE (Always motivated by violence and boredom)
    Fire Lord - LSI or SLE-Ti
    Ursa (Zuko and Azula's Mom - NF (maybe IEI/EII?? Not much info on her)
    Bumi - Infantile NT

    Anyways, yes this show is more Alpha biased based on the good vs bad guys.. I think the creators are exceptionally "clever" though to display aspects each quadra (in the socionics system). It's kind of freaky how everything is fitting so nicely into place o_o
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I'm not trolling but I never could get into this show, and I usually am a bitch for mythology/sci-fi stuff. Seemed way too 'bland' to me for some reason.
    Lmfao you should be a bitch for this show then. I was snotty and bratty about watching it but my boyfriend made me sit down and watch it. It's pretty damn good lol

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    Katara and Azula are rational types.

    Mai is ILI, she's basically the same character as Raven from Teen Titans.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonare View Post
    Katara and Azula are rational types.

    Mai is ILI, she's basically the same character as Raven from Teen Titans.




    Nice that made me laugh.
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