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    Betans (and non betans)! What experiences have you had working with others? Pleasant? Unpleasant?

    I love when working with others is productive and fun. It's one of the top best feelings evar. Your POV's/Experiences?

    (blah-bee-dee-blah...I'm part of a reunion commitee, so far we've all been communcating over e-mail, and it's great fun. Everyone takes on the parts that they are most comfortable with. When new information surfaces we handle it immediately and move forward. The only thing we are really missing is a person who can be entrusted to be the energetic/fun/host. It's really really cool to see everybody in the committe naturally take on the things that they are confident accomplishing. From what I surmise, the members are ESTj, INFp, ISTp, ENTj, ENFp, ESFj.

    It made me realize I do not want to be relied on to introduce the activities, pass out the materials, make announcements etc. I don't want to be expected to implement anything on the actual day. The stuff I can gather and do NOW is what energizes me. Stuff like composing fun surveys, quizes, buying the prizes, contacting alumni, making copies, scanning pictures, sending out invitations...all that stuff that keeps me busy now is great. But I wil not be responsible for managing any part of the actual day. Knowing I'll have that kind of looming commitment would stress me out. Luckily, someone is more than willing to pass out/explain the quizes, give out the prizes and introduce the slide show. Otherwise, all the work I've done would be for naught.

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    I work well in a team with girls. I do everything while they deal with public relations and baking cookies and compliment me for what I do.

    I work badly in a team with guys. I want to do everything and they want to intervene, but of course I know better.

    Generally in a group i'm the one that deals with, well, doing everything realted to the main task.
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    Depends...

    I like to be in charge of groups if no one in the group is suitable for leadership by my standards.

    Otherwise, I have no trouble following and supporting a good leader. As long as we are steadily moving I'm good.
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    i like working with people from my quadra or at least alpha. i can't stand people who are perfectionists. the sniveling pessimistic crybabies get on my nerve. i also like people who aren't afraid of a little change of plans. people who appreciate my complex mind. i don't mind working with people from other quadras as long as they're not ISFj. i like people who keep hope alive and are careful about their craft. i love teamwork. without it there is no group, just a bunch of egocentric individuals in make-believe. there must be a bond inside a group. when you realise that you can talk about anything, that you can communicate without using words, you've just made new friends. i've been blessed with the people i work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by little red riding hood
    i like working with people from my quadra or at least alpha. i can't stand people who are perfectionists. the sniveling pessimistic crybabies get on my nerve. i also like people who aren't afraid of a little change of plans. people who appreciate my complex mind. i don't mind working with people from other quadras as long as they're not ISFj. i like people who keep hope alive and are careful about their craft. i love teamwork. without it there is no group, just a bunch of egocentric individuals in make-believe. there must be a bond inside a group. when you realise that you can talk about anything, that you can communicate without using words, you've just made new friends. i've been blessed with the people i work with.
    what do you like about alpha?

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    i have a boss at work who INTj. with this guy, i don't have to fake Fe. i can just be myself and he won't seem to mind. if i do use Fe, he looks at me like i'm the biggest fraud that's ever lived. my best pal's ENTp. when it seems like a situation seems hopeless, he amazes me by being able to see possibilities. his behaviour has permitted me to take advantage of many opportunities. ESFj get on my nerves with their gossiping but if you know how to keep your mouth shut, they can be fun people to hang out with. most of them of good-natured if you stay on their good side. i have another pal who's ISFp. i've only known him a few months and it seems like he's always been around. i know i can trust him because he really is virtuous. kinda like a big kid who still lives by the good lessons his parents taught him. he genuine do-gooder.

    alphas ime are generally laid-back and creative. the atmosphere never gets stifling or heavy. they know how to have a good time. they try not to take themselves too seriously. i appreciate that. doesn't mean i like them all though.
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    I don't work with others. If I do then I'm either working for them or them for me but there is no working "together". I don't take on the values of others and I don't extend mine onto others. I've noticed that people seem to mind this (Mostly because it prohibits them from controlling or manipulating me).

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    I absolutely despise working in groups... In fact, I have horror stories. I feel much more confident relying on my own work ethic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    I don't work with others. If I do then I'm either working for them or them for me but there is no working "together". I don't take on the values of others and I don't extend mine onto others. I've noticed that people seem to mind this (Mostly because it prohibits them from controlling or manipulating me).
    That's what happens to me, too.
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    ...just because...watching interactions is cool.

    I fleshed out ideas I was considering and the response from the committee members was interesting. (BTW, ESTj told me she could tell I was unsettled about things and wanted to ask me what it was but decided to just wait and when she saw my e-mail with the following ideas; she was happy that I "got it out").

    I brought up the possibility of planning our own reunion without the help of a reunion specialist. Because...
    A. We were already doing some of the leg work; could we handle the FULL load?
    B. We could donate a percentage of the profits back to our school!
    C. In the end, this reunion could work for us and our School. No third party cashing in on us.
    D. We could formulate our own contract, delegating duties depending on our expertise.


    ESTj: Thought about the idea as well and said she'd go along with it, if there was an interest.

    ESFj: Felt that the reunion specialists weren't doing enough of their job; injustice of sorts. Maybe we should look into hiring another one.

    ISTp: Said the risk would be low, the investment would pay off. A lot of Alumni, on the website she opened to advertise our reunion, are stating they WILL attend.

    ENTj: Didn't respond to e-mails. Very busy.

    ENFp: Didn't respond to e-mails. Very busy.

    Nobody made a move to create a contract and delegate duties. The conversation stalled. I tell ESTj that since I opened the can of worms I would close it. She says not quite yet. It's only been 2 days. Let them sit with it. Let's see if the ENTj and ENFp respond.

    We sit on it. Convo is still stalled. No response from the ENTj/ENFp. So, ESTj posts her opinion on the matter.

    ESTj: "*My opinion* is that one person will end up doing all the bookings and running around, because so many of us have families and are rather busy. Lets stick with hiring a reunion specialist."

    ISTp: "Yeah. I agree, It will land on one person. "

    ESFj: Comes back with research on different specialists. And we find out that our current one IS the BEST bet.

    The ESTj/ISTp's conclusion baffled me actually. I don't think that the work would land on one person. I think that since no one stepped up to create a contract and delegate duties, we had no choice but to hire a reunion specialist. Different POV, same conclusion; we were all together on the decision to hire the reunion specialist that we were in talks with.

    I kinda felt good that I voiced my concerns, I wanted to open the possibility of having someone fill a certain role; and since nobody stepped up, we went on as we were. I don't think I slowed the process down at all. God I miss working in collaborations like this!

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