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    And all of his movies.
    He strikes me as someone I really don't like.

    What type do you think he is, and how does that influence his movies?







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    There seems to be some sort of consensus that he is an ENTj, and I don't dispute that. What is it that you don't like about him and his movies?

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    i actually was looking at some boring interviews of him simply because i wanted to see rick's basis for changing his type. he looked very emotionally expressive in what little i saw of him.

    i, however, know almost nothing about the guy and so am probably highly unfit to dispute those that say LIE.

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    He just has different values and interests and appreciations than I do. I could never be him. I disagree, more so than usual, with his idea of "art", or entertainment for that matter.


    It's all personal opinion, I just have always found him exceptionally annoying, standing out from the crowd.

    I just saw a preview for two of his new movies that are coming out. It ... reminds me of someone who is similar to me, but is going in a different direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP III
    It ... reminds me of someone who is similar to me, but is going in a different direction.
    imo this is probably a pretty decent description of INTj/ENTj dynamics
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    I think that is only so, however, if someone is going in a direction I do not really agree with. I don't think it has anything to do with type alone, but I can see ENTjs being a type I easily feel dichotomous about: that is to say, they are generally either people I support and agree with, (even in terms of Se HA and Si polr), or someone who I just do not.

    An ENTj I know in person that falls into the first category is my Accounting teacher. His Fe role is strong and loud, but humorous to me, and I respect his dual seeking Fi.
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    I'm rather interested in the relations between him and Uma Thurman since they seemed to have a tight partnership in his movies. I think Thurman's EII. I find his movies violent, but not repulsive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice View Post
    I'm rather interested in the relations between him and Uma Thurman since they seemed to have a tight partnership in his movies. I think Thurman's EII. I find his movies violent, but not repulsive.

    i like some of his movies, but he got to the point of over-doing himself.

    pulp fiction is a classic though. one of my all time faves.

    i would say that tarantino is some kind of beta NF.

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    Quentin Tarantino is Se ESTp.






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    Beta extrovert is most likely IMO, although I will admit that there are some things about his facial expressions that remind me of Expat. Could be just EJ temperament/Si PoLR.
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    Ni-ENTj perhaps. He's a jerk but a very talented one.
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    Pulp fiction is a simple movie not being over done but the humor are original, unlike the funny movie "scary movie", from the second to the fourth one it is overly done.
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    Yeah he seems like a bit of a jackoff, but I have fucking truckloads of respect for him and what he is doing/has done.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    EIE or IEI, one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
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    wtf. Why can he not be a sensing type?

    lol, dude its obvious he is Pe Ep. Hes a forkin nut. His manner is sharp, direct, and kinda intimidating. Pretty obvious he'd conflict with INFj

    god just watch:




    "The rogue artist who revels in his or her own naughtiness, likes to shock and appall audiences, and doesn't take his own work too seriously."


    and now you will post, "Yes Archon, you were right. i now see how he is Se leading, Ep temperament, and Beta. Thank you."

    edit: how the fuck is he not Mercutio's identical? or JWC3? seriously i dont get it.
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    I don't see how anyone familiar with his writing/directing style can see anything other than EJ.

    The guy is a detail MONSTER. He spent 10 years on the script for inglorious, writing and revising over and over. He wasn't passively doing this hidden in his room IP style, either, he did several other films during that time. His attention to detail is ridiculous, very Te.

    His movies are very gamma, I can see how one could think beta, but their attitude is very matter of fact. These events are taking place because this is the way it is (Te), and the reactions of the heroes are to do the right thing (Fi).

    Double edit: Watched about an hour of clips on this guy, and he does seem to be all SeTi forceful and intense like an IEI would like. Maybe SLE works if he does a lot of coke or something.
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    haha. i think estp or something, he's pretty funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banana Pancakes View Post
    LIE

    I don't see how anyone familiar with his writing/directing style can see anything other than EJ.

    The guy is a detail MONSTER. He spent 10 years on the script for inglorious, writing and revising over and over. He wasn't passively doing this hidden in his room IP style, either, he did several other films during that time. His attention to detail is ridiculous, very Te.

    His movies are very gamma, I can see how one could think beta, but their attitude is very matter of fact. These events are taking place because this is the way it is (Te), and the reactions of the heroes is to do the right thing (Fi).

    Edit: Arch added the same film. He starts out almost mocking Fe at one point and then raging about her comments that his movies are too violent in a very "fuck you see my movies" Gamma Te fashion.
    When did he mock Fe? Dude he was all like, "Stfu with your prudish Fi bullshit and stop being a pussy. People die, violence happens, get over it."
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    @bp: lol no that is pissed off psycho Se ESTp man.

    and how is he controlled?
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    sure thats cool. I mean he is beyond simply zany Pe Ep crazy.

    How bout you compare him to this Se ESTp?:



    or this one (lol similar theme)?

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    Constant development, constant movement!
    50 pages of new development over 2 weeks.
    He's seen every movie, at least twice.
    Okay maybe if he were an EP on speed.



    Here's a longer clip about him growing up and working in a porno theater. He's very matter of fact and thinks kids should be able to see (non porno) adult movies.



    Compare how tight his movements are compared to chill rodriguez in this clip. It's obvious IP is out for him, and I think he's more intense than an EP too.



    Sigh I just watched a LOT of clips with this crazy person ranting about his films. Maybe SLE works, I need to compare to some other SLEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    if Jim Carrey, Tom Green, and Quentin Tarantino are supposed to be my duals then I need to change my type immediately, even suddenly... no offense to them.
    Agree 100%
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    Jackie Brown is my favorite Tarantino movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    if Jim Carrey, Tom Green, and Quentin Tarantino are supposed to be my duals then I need to change my type immediately, even suddenly... no offense to them.
    yes they are yer duals. Maybe wrong sub, but duals the same!

    and seriously wtf type do your think they are? ENFp? seriously Glam you always make these claims, yet I'd love to hear your alternative typings. If you don't "like" these people thats fine. I dont "like" a few ISFp celebs I've come across because they're hollow empty shells of humanity. But if you are going to say that you dislike these people and therefore they aren't your duals, well then they shouldn't be in your quadra either!

    You and starfall pop into every thread where I type Betas and say "we dont liek" just to throw your weight against my typings because you're infp. How bout you give me some examples of Se ESTps, huh?

    @BP: Im not seeing it. He is an energetic film director. The job requires constant work and review. Also, I think tight-woundedness is something I'd expect from Se ESTps. Like a spring ready to go any second. fwiw Ayn Rand is Se ESTp. She VI's alot alot like Tarantino lol.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    lol were you jacking off or having a stroke when you took this pic?

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    stalker!
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    Tom Green is the most annoying piece of crap I've ever looked at on television. ^o^
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    VIing really shouldn't be in this therad.

    I can see EIE for Tarantino. His films may tend to be gorefests, but I think a more important aspect of his films is the way he structures them - they tend to have discrete chapters, and the sequencing is not necessarily in a strict logical order (i.e. time-wise). Of course many filmmakers make their films like this nowadays - but I really don't think that they can compare to Tarantino. His sequencing fits like a glove...or whatever the appropiate term is. Pulp Fiction is not a SLE movie. It's a film that doesn't really make much sense until you've seen it several times, and yet it's perfectly enjoyable if it's your first time watching it. In each of his films, the storytelling and scene-setting is very important too - he doesn't just focus solely on one character.

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    @starfall: he is obnoxious yes and his humor bland/stupid. but is he Se ESTp?

    I mean, I chose ones that were more like tarantino, so if you didnt care for him to begin with than the others will not help... but I dont want to derail this thread which i will do if i start putting up more estps i think.

    @subt: Please give your reasoning why his films are not SLE material. You did not, so please do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    @subt: Please give your reasoning why his films are not SLE material. You did not, so please do.
    Why don't you explain your VI similarities for once, and not in this thread? I did actually explain why I thought he was an EIE compared to SLE in my post.

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    Watch as I analyze your post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    1. I can see EIE for Tarantino.

    okay cool.

    2. His films may tend to be gorefests,

    EIE>SLE?

    3. they tend to have discrete chapters, and the sequencing is not necessarily in a strict logical order (i.e. time-wise).

    Of course many filmmakers make their films like this nowadays - but I really don't think that they can compare to Tarantino.

    His sequencing fits like a glove...or whatever the appropiate term is.

    So are you saying that his sequencing capabilities make him EIE?


    4. Pulp Fiction is not a SLE movie.

    okay cool.

    5. It's a film that doesn't really make much sense until you've seen it several times, and yet it's perfectly enjoyable if it's your first time watching it.

    umm... nice.

    6. In each of his films, the storytelling and scene-setting is very important too - he doesn't just focus solely on one character.

    Are you simply lauding his films or are you implying that SLE's focus on a single character?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Watch as I analyze your post:
    You missed out the 'but' after 'gorefests'.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    So are you saying that his sequencing capabilities make him EIE?
    I think it is evidence towards that position...you'll note that I started my post with "I can see EIE for Tarantino.".

    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    Are you simply lauding his films or are you implying that SLE's focus on a single character?
    I am contrasting a typical EIE's way of working with a SLE's way of working (in my view).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    You missed out the 'but' after 'gorefests'.
    oops sorry.

    I think it is evidence towards that position...you'll note that I started my post with "I can see EIE for Tarantino.".
    fine.


    I am contrasting a typical EIE's way of working with a SLE's way of working (in my view).
    Okay, I dont really understand why that would be and I disagree, but that's fine if you have noticed strange correlations, I do it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    trying to explain things away with subtypes ... nice try, but you type me Fe sub and Starfall as Ni sub, and she agrees with me.
    no, thats why i said duals the same meaning it should not matter.

    first: a lot of what you say is completely irrelevant because I never said I dislike any of them... and I don't dislike any of them. you just assumed it.
    I did and I dont think I was wrong in doing so as thats what one would infer from your post.

    second: ... where did ENFp come from? and what "claims" are you talking about that I'm supposedly always making - are you just talking about the times I've disagreed with you? yeah, I disagree with you a ton on socionics, it's true!
    I just threw out ENFp as a random possibility.

    third: stop being so defensive. I think your typings of those three aren't good ones. but if you prefer to rage at me for "trying to throw my weight against your typings just because I'm an INFp", fine, go ahead I guess... you can continue to type someone who had a very positive response to Tarantino, Diana, as his supposed conflictor, and still insist that the people who didn't have such a good response to him are Tarantino's supposed duals! yes, it all makes so much sense!
    That doesn't mean anything. Does Diana have to live with Tarantino or interact with him directly? No. I think Johnny Knoxville is pretty funny and I like Jackkass even though I type him as Se ESFp and J.A. as Beta/Gamma. Yet I also know that Knoxville and me have nothing in common and would not interest eachother personally. I like Ron Paul and I type him as INTp. I like a good deal of Gamma's actually, but I still feel the opposition.

    Also, I do not have an opinion on Diana's type as far as IXFj goes, so you strawmanned me.

    fourth: I think Tarantino is probably XIE and Jim Carrey an Fe type. I don't have an opinion on Tom Green, but SLE would be an extremely unlikely option if I had to pick something.
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    I like Jim Carrey. He can be a bit over the top sometimes, but at least he's funny, inventive and much less uptight and annoying than Tarantino or his characters.

    And LOL @ either of them being ESTp, especially Jim. Yake is full of crap as always.
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    I get the feeling that Starfall's, and Glamourama's dual, would resemble something more like this, for some reason:



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    I bet their feelings are in line with yours.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I bet their feelings are in line with yours.
    You think so ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamourama View Post
    lol, ok, so what if I told you that I "feel the opposition" with those three that you typed SLE? "opposition" meaning that I do not feel that they would be the most socionically compatible with me? would that matter to you?
    Yes that would matter to me, although I do not understand it theoretically, but I will note it anyways. But I also know IEI's who do not feel opposition (such as Strrrng, because you know him), so idk.
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