Ew..every movie with Jennifer Lopez is a complete disaster aside from Selena.
Jennifer Lopez < Ben Affleck < Matt Damon
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
LSE sp/so 7w6. He comes off as being very set and sort of heavy in his thinking in the interviews. ST all the way and likely rational. I could see how this "demonstrative-fixated" excerpt could apply to him.
Probably my favorite SNL skit:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...o/gigli/n36898
Last edited by Contra; 04-09-2016 at 07:04 PM.
Damon is 6w7.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
SLE, I think.
I have met few lookalikes. Somewhat similar to me but crucially they are much better equipped in physical realm and they tend to show it as well and do not react so well with intangible.
Like this
Certainly not introverted.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Te-LSE... one of the less annoying ones. and probably 6w7 with a 3w2 heart fix, and so/sp. the video of him flipping out on adrian grenier (SEI) for perceived incompetence/inefficiency/laziness is a pretty good example of supervision imo.
4w3-5w6-8w7
Let's say Damon is in fact LSE, but Se doms (and Se egos) bitch at people for incompetence/inefficiency/laziness as well. It's not Te exclusive. SLE boss would bitch the fuck out at a lazy, incompetent xEI (well, not in socionics fairyland, ofc)..
I agree with Damon being LSE, although a "softer" kind of LSE. DiCaprio is SEE imo.
He's not LSE. He's SEE
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lol, we're not going to come to the end of this. None of us can prove our typings besides some unprovable bullshitting. If Damon would be SEE and DiCaprio SLE i wouldn't be too surprised either.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Damon is LSE and Dicaprio is Se type.
I've seen the same open receptiveness in Dicaprio in Se types.
In fact I agree with everything you say about these two and recognize the "tough guy exterior, inner vulnerabilty" vs. "Open receptive, volition emotional immediacy".
Also, with Damon you get a clear caretaker under current in his approuch to the interlocator with a certain Fi vulnerabilty. It looks like an unspoken desire for personal connection... "Here I am am I here for you. That sort of thing. Although thats just my subjective thoughts Im sure others would disagree.
Nice job with the analysis. Clap clap clap.
Last edited by wacey; 05-20-2016 at 03:48 PM.
IEE-Fi
I put a lengthy list of them here:
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-fi/
NeFi (plus Fi subtype) does a good job mirroring others….they do it reflexively. They have a cognition for adapting themselves to different roles, and how to change masks in order to suit the occasion. They also like to engage in fluffy, pop pseudo-psycho analysis of people, usually with an aim towards developing a connection between themselves and whomever they are giving the analysis too.
IEE-Fi is one of the more popular types found in the 3-6-9 humanity triad. Damon himself is 9w8.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Recently saw this movie. I see Damon as an LSE character and DiCaprio as an SLE character. It looked like a quasi-identical intertype between the two with Leo symmetrically matched against Damon. The girlfriend by happen stance struck me as an IEI, with an initial attraction for Damon.
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Things start to unravel here as her character begins to question this guy, the communication breaks down--->
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The interplay between these two strikes me as the dynamic in beta dyads. Lots of intensity moving towards unspoken mutual trust as she recognizes he, although seemingly at first, is not the bad guy.
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Last edited by wacey; 05-20-2016 at 04:07 PM.
Good comparative analysis, Person. I like your description of Fi vs Fe.
I personally think I'm closer to the Fi-side, as in simple words, everything has at least a small emotional impact in my inner self, even if emotions themselves cannot alter my perception of (what I understand as) objective reality (facts).
Another aspect which is could be deduced from such descripcions is that Fi-valuers would be, on average, less susceptible to the phenomenon of emotion infection (and mass hysteria as the extreme case) that is more common in Fe-valuers (particularly in betas). The former perceive their emotions as an "unique" (individualized) experience, not directly comparable to the emotions of others, which are different. There are your feelings and my feelings. They're not the same thing. Therefore they do not feel the compulsion of resonating with the external emotional atmosphere and "merge with the group" (if forced, they could become resistant). The most extreme case of this would be ILIs (Fe PoLR + democratic).
Last edited by MensSuperMateriam; 05-20-2016 at 08:05 PM.
Honestly, Damon is probably LSE and if DiCaprio is SLE that's ok as well, BUT this blind religion into "quadra values" and people supposedly being attracted to their "own" people first (as friends and lovers) is frankly absurd. That's not how real world interactions work. Maybe for people whose brains have been brainwashed by too much socionics. Also typing by people's friends - his best friend is ILI so he must be SEE over ESE This might be true for those though, whose friends come mainly from socionics forum.
I didn't say there's no truth to it, just that it's delusional when one takes it too far. I more often have better chemistry with delta NF's than LSI's. People often hang out together as friends by clubs -NF's together for example.
Ok then. You are too smug to have constructive conversation with.Socionics does not describe a lot and holds a lot of exceptions, but to say it doesn't work the way it does, simply appears like one mistyping people irl and not fully understanding it.
Edit: And as boring Damon is, DiCaprio is far worse. So much for "quadra values".
Who are you to tell others when should they use socionics? Maybe they just have a different use for it? Or it doesn't have to be useful either. We're not going to come together, cause you sound like a religious fanatic. And we clearly have very very bad chemistry, so let's not talk any longer.
I understand what you're saying, but there's nothing to fight about, since you think your version of socionics, observations and typings are always the correct ones. What's there to discuss? So you're saying all or most of my delta very close friends (4) must be mistyped? Or am I delta? I' m confused.
Ok, just ftr I don't have special chemistry with delta NF's. When I look at the whole picture it's life circumstances that direct who I'm friends with -it's a very mixed group. Maybe people who are very specific and into certain life styles /subcultures ( straight edge for example) are more likely to hang out with only similar people. I prefer different people as its less boring that way and I have them in my life for different porpuses (some for their sense of humour,some for deep talks, some for gossip, etc.) But yes, in general, i am definitely drawn to other groups of people before beta ST's (or any ST) .
Its not the same typing celebrities or people on the forum and typing people you know for years -thats why I almost always allow for a different typing with people I dont know personally, unless its a very bizzare typing. I type with 'possibly", "maybe, Ni-dom? And such. I'm less smug then you think. When i gave out my typings of forum members, it was only my impression - only a few i am positive of -because I never met those people. But I'm damn sure I can type my friends and family (with a weird exception here and there), so we'll have to disagree. ; )
Why is it a weird concept to love a EII friend for the deep conversations you can have with them (and them being your psychologist lol) and a SLE friend to get wasted with ?
ESTj? You guys are so bad at typing... It's ridiculous.
Clear ISTj. Similar to Leonardo DiCaprio who is also ISTj.
He actually kind of reminds me of Elon Musk, except more socially skilled.