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    Intuitive-Logical Introvert –
    ILI – INTp – Balzac (Critic)

    Installation of the consciousness of the leading bloc: the ILI’s world is finite, fluid, manifold, and in a continuously varying state. The goal of man is to find his place in the continuous row of events, to realize his potential. To act makes sense only if the optimal moment, for such an action, has been determined.


    Descriptions of the activity of the strong functions:

    Ni – program function. The consciousness of any introvert always works with internally constructed imaginary models. The external world, for the ILI, serves merely to jolt the onset of internal states. The intuition of time allows him to successfully model such temporary processes.

    The consciousness of the ILI easily encompasses countless moments in time. It dynamically views the world, and all the processes, which occur in it, in a complete and systematic fashion. His ability for mental mobility, by traversing the time axis, permits him to see distant prospects, and consequently few can be compared to him in the realm of strategic forecasts.

    The imagination, of the ILI, takes in the dynamics of the world – within it everything is in motion, he movies, he interacts, people work, display behaviours, and at the foundation of all these, amongst other, things there lies a reason. He easily appears to model the behaviour of people, examining what he can predict in the future as consequence of the aftereffects of activities that people complete in the present. Possessing the gift of foresight he often already knows what he is going to say or do prior to the definite situation – frequently it seems that he knows, and sees straight through, everything (and in a certain sense this is correct).

    The ability to penetrate right to the essence of a problem and to see the eventual result represents the nature of enlightenment. Indeed the ILI will sometimes, in speaking, cite wise historical figures and philosophers. His forecasts, as a rule, are painted with skepticism, thus he primarily voices his fears when necessary (i.e. to safeguard those close to him from acting rashly). He himself repeatedly, and scrupulously, checks on everything before beginning to act. He addresses those, whose activities or thoughts are made too hastily (not thought thoroughly through), of his critical observations.

    One of the principal attributes of the ILI is his pride, connected with his self assertion. Frequently he obtains happiness in observing abilities unfounded in others, which come naturally to him. Many of his mental abilities are relatively superior to others. I.E. People with this psycho-type often have a splendid memory. He puts to use his powerful base of knowledge to identify the source of a question and to comprehend all facets of problems. Individuals of this psycho-type seem encyclopedically formed. However, also characteristic of them, is that they harbour conservative qualities relating with their distrust of anything new, which has not survived sufficient criticism or any sort of process with an unknown conclusion.

    His tendency to feel himself significant does not, in any way, mean that he will attempt to find a higher placement/status in society. He rather prefers to raise himself as high as possible in the field of knowledge. Such represents a deeper degree of insight and through this he is able to feel superior to others.

    Te – the function of the program’s implementation. ILI knows how to obtain a bird’s eye view, from above, on the dynamics of an ongoing process. His aim is to guide these dynamics towards their practical realization. Once he has predicted the eventual result he awaits the “right moment” to act and will not do anything until such a moment arrives (will never undertake useless work). After he’s aware of the real prospects he moves in to action.

    His ability to recognize the whole of something sometimes leads ILI to multiple solutions for the same problem. Thus, now and again, he finds it difficult to give preference to one thing over another. He does not like being hurried, he waits for a problem to “mature” and his opinions to be incorporated into the big picture of things, which is already present in his imagination. In ILI is characteristic a certain reservation; he tries to leave enough room for possible corrective measure to be taken in the future.

    ILI’s fitness for work is exceptionally selective. If he finds the proper career he can immediately display remarkable energy and fantastic fitness in his tasks. His life can be a continuum of sleepless nights and states of extreme stress, which last for months or even years. Naturally works in solid and pedantic manner.

    On the other hand if he fails finding the right job/career then his skepticism begins to take over as he asks himself, “Why is all of this necessary? Nothing good can come of this…” He cannot even force himself to meet the bare minimum expectations, and may lead to serious repercussions such as being dismissed from work or dropping out of college/university… In such cases he feels helpless to do anything and irrationality leaves him at difficulty even to meet the minimum needs for survival.


    Description of activity of the weak functions:

    Fe – the weakest function. Being weakly orientated in the area of emotions, ILI prefers to hide his feelings. However, if strongly afflicted his emotionality can literally lash out, he may lose control of himself. In order to protect himself from such situations ILI prefers to maintain a distant psychological distance. Familiarity irritates him, he adheres to a steady and logical manner of interaction.

    ILI often compensates for his weak emotional involvement, in interactions with others, through intellectual games. His goal with such games is similar to that of checkers: to win, show his competence, and to demonstrate another’s mistakes . ILI is a master of games; he loves to play with people and events.

    He finds true enjoyment in the consciousness of his intellectual superiority and will not let pass the possibility of directly or indirectly expressing this. Even should his level of education seem to defer him from such expression he will, nonetheless, satisfy his silent vanity.

    He feels confident among only a select few, to which he is open and sincere. His kindness, now and again, is astonishing, and he’ll display generousity to such a degree as to offer another something that could be deemed essential to him. Most people, however, will always treat him in a neutral manner (symbolizes the weak function).

    Si – the normative function. In all matters regarding questions of health, aesthetics, lifestyle, and clothing, ILI appears modest and does not beyond the necessary. He understands such facets poorly and so prefers to obtain information on them from [in his opinion] competent sources. In such spheres – for example, his private life – he may appear hopeless enough to incite concern in others. If he falls ill he is able to strictly observer his physician’s instructions and scrupulously follow a regimen in diet/medicine etc.

    His inherent strengths frequently manifest a bi-polar nature: some individuals of this psycho-type develop an enviable sense of purpose and perseverance, while others on the contrary demonstrate complete inertia. In conclusion, it must be said that, for ILI, the proper job/career is especially important to find or his innate talents will be utterly wasted.


    ILI at work and in the home:

    Although ILI clearly does not strive to be a leader, his latent vanity satisfies itself if he becomes one for he considers himself competent of heading a laboratory, institute, university… even the ministry and state. This assurance is sometimes totally valid as it is based on his ability to think strategically, which is undoubtedly the most important quality for a manager of any rank.

    With subordinates ILI prefers a logical style of contact, he knows well how to distinguish the abilities of one coworker over the other and put such knowledge to use. However, he is not always confident in entrusting subordinates with work. He is inclined to check over everything and is not reconciled with the though that another can work better than himself.

    ILI is representative of a good family man. He prefers not to quarrel with family and is willing to go as far as it takes to get away from conflict, even if his partner becomes intolerant. However, in a critical situation he is capable of “exploding,” losing control of himself, manifesting a state of literal madness – in such times he may resort to physical violence on his surroundings.

    He is exceptionally thoughtful in regards to his children and especially cares about their development. He does not ignore their pleas for money/resources. On the other hand, in terms of lifestyle and health he remains completely dependent on his significant other.


    Summary of Functions:

    1. Ni – Dynamically comprehends all worldly processes. Ability to traverse the time axis permits them to see distant prospects. Skeptical and critical. When confronted by a situation they know how to select from a set of variants, oriented towards the distant prospect.
    2. Te – Fitness for work is exceptionally selective. If they find an appropriate job they work without tiring, indeed are difficult to stop. Knows how to find the principal team needed to unwind a chain of events. A meticulous and scrupulous pedant, knows how to separate information within a system.
    3. Fe – Tries not to act emotionally since he is not confident that he can always control his feelings. When he does lose control his behaviour towards others, and himself, is unpredictable. With close people prefers to associate at a close psychological distance, tries to be polite, to develop relations over time; however, does not always succeed for is capable of offending others without noticing.
    4. Si – He feels well in a comfortable and cozy home but is unwilling to spend the necessary time and resources to create such himself and so prefers if another would take this responsibility. Sometimes difficult to mobilize himself to carry out necessary activities, appears as if paralyzed, and in such cases external interference proves useful in helping him “untwist”.


    Professional Possibilities:
    ILI is wonderfully at home anywhere where strategic forecasts are required – in policy, finances, science, military research. Can lead a group of any scale, particularly with the assistance of a sensory type. Also develop a taste toward humanitarian areas – i.e. philosophy, art.


    Relations:
    Potentially Favourable:
    SEE (ESFp). SLE (ESTp), IEE (ESFp), ESI (ISFj)
    Potentially Adverse:
    ESE (ESFj), EIE (ENFj), LSE (ESTj), ILE (ENTp)
    INFp-Ni

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    ORIGINAL:

    Installation of the consciousness of the leading bloc THE ILI: the world is infinite, fluid, manifold, its state continuously varies, and the goal of man of — to find its place in the continuous row of events, to become his team (BI of — program function). To act makes sense is only if determined the optimal moment of application of force (MEMBERS of — the implementation of program).

    Description of the activity of the functions of strong canals (leading bloc)

    BI of — program function. The consciousness of any introvert always works with the models, which appear in its imagination. External world for it of — only jolt for the onset of internal modes. And if in this case the leading function of — the intuition of time, then it accomplishes modeling the temporary processes.

    Consciousness ILI easily encompasses any time intervals, takes in the world complete and systemically, and all processes, which occur in it, — in the dynamics. Capability for free mental locomotion by the time axis permits for it to see the distant prospect, in consequence of which almost no one can with it be compared in the strategic forecasts.

    Imagination ILI takes in the world by the dynamic of — in it all it moves, it interacts, people work, complete behavior, at foundation of which lie these or other reasons. In the consciousness ILI easily appears the model of the behavior of people, examining which it can predict in the future of the aftereffect of those activities, which man completes in the present. Possessing the gift of foresight, he often previously knows that he will say or will make men in the definite situation, — to it is frequently seemed that he knows everything and sees everything right through (in some meaning this so be).

    The ability to penetrate in the essence of problem, to see eventual result has a nature of enlightenment, direct viewing, so which sometimes ILI puts to use the reputation of wise man and philosopher. In this case its forecasts are, as a rule, painted with skepticism, it prefers to voice fears in order to safeguard its surrounding people from rash behavior. Itself it also [ostorozhnichaet], everything it repeatedly and scrupulously checks before beginning to act, — and others calls moreover voicing critical observations in the address those, whose activities or thoughts are too hasty, light and they are not thought out with the entire thoroughness.

    One of the principal moving stimuli THE ILI of — pride and connected with it self assertion. Frequently to it happiness obtains to be certified that others are unfounded in by something such, which is personally to it given easily. Its abilities are in many instances actually sufficiently high, in particular, the people with the splendid memory are frequent among the representatives of this psycho-type. Putting to use this advantage, it encompasses problem as a whole, realizes the sources of a question, is built the powerful basement of its knowledge. Specifically, among the people of this psycho-type are encountered individuals encyclopedically formed. However, the definite conservative properties, connected with the distrust to entire new, which was not decanted, which still unknown how will terminate, is characteristic of them.

    The tendency to [samoutverditsja], to feel its significance does not in any way mean that ILI necessarily it is attempted to occupy in the society as high as possible step. It is faster, in it is outlined the desire to be raised as above as possible in the field of knowledge, as it is deeper than — to the degree of its insight and to feel its superiority over others precisely in this (CHI).

    MEMBERS of — the function of the implementation of program. Knowing how to glance “on top” at entire dynamics of the occurring processes, ILI the aim is to guide this dynamics practical realization. Having correctly predicted eventual result, it can not undertake nothing, waiting for the convenient moment, when one should be set in operation (useless work never it will undertake). But, after feeling the real prospect, it here comes into action.

    The property of the wholeness of recognition sometimes leads ILI to the multivariance of the solution of problem. To it now and then it is to difficult give preference to something one. It does not love haste, it awaits, when problem “matures” and its decision will be incorporated in naturally the general picture, already drawn in its imagination. For it therefore is characteristic a certain reinsurance, he just in case tries to preserve “in the reserve” the possibility of some corrective activities.

    Fitness for work ILI is exceptionally selective. If it found its work, it can manifest straight-away remarkable energy and fantastic fitness for work as the powerful flywheel, which untwisted and it cannot stop. In its life can be the continuances of sleepless nights and the states of extreme stress, which are lasted months and even for years. Very nature of the work of — is solid and is pedantic.

    But if he did not succeed in finding its work, then its skepticism is prevailed: “A why all this is necessary?. Nevertheless nothing good this it will come out…” Then it cannot force itself to make even that which is simply necessary, this can lead to the serious conflicts of — to dismissal from the work, the deduction from VUZ $$RTVUZ - Institute of Higher Education… In these cases it feels itself with man without the rod, but its irrationality does not contribute forcing of itself to make at least that which is necessary simply for the survival.

    Description of the activity of the functions of the weak canals

    CHE of — the canal of the smallest resistor. Being weakly orientated in the area of emotions, ILI it prefers to hide its feelings, but if we it thoroughly “catch for alive” — its emotional wave literally whips, and it can lose authority above itself. In order to protect itself from a similar situation, ILI it prefers distant psychological distance. It irritates familiarity, itself it adheres to steady and valid style in the contact.

    Its weak emotional involvement in the contacts with the people ILI it often compensates by the intellectual game (BL). Very frequently the contact for it of — the game, similar to checkered, where the goal of — to show, in the first place, on that it is capable itself and to, in the second place, demonstrate to partner his bankruptcy. THE ILI of — the skilled worker of game, loves to play by people and by events.

    In the consciousness of his intellectual superiority he scoops true enjoyment and will not let go the possibility it to directly or indirectly demonstrate. If his education contradicts this demonstration of — nevertheless, one way or another, this will satisfy its silent vanity.

    In the contact with those a few people, to which it feels confidence, ILI it can be discovered and sincere. Its kindness now and then astonishes, even generosity of — easily gives up thing the, it would seem, necessary to it very. But more frequent this is connected with the fact that they to it are simply neutral (sense of — weak function).

    BS of — normative function. In everything, concerning questions of health, health, aesthetics, way of life, clothing of — queries ILI are sufficiently modest and they do not exceed necessary level. Badly examining all this, it prefers to receive information on such questions from the competent (in his opinion) sources. Sometimes in this sphere, — for example, in private life, — it is so helpless which needs present concern. It can strictly observe the instructions of physician, if it falls ill; to scrupulously precisely follow formula during the preparation of food and so on.

    Its inherent volitional qualities (CHS) frequently carry the polar nature: some representatives of this psycho-type develop enviable perseverance and purposefulness, for others is, on the contrary, characteristic literally paralysis of will. The same can be observed in the life of one and the same man: in some works powerful pressure, in other — complete inertia. Summarizing, it is possible to say that for ILI it is especially important to find its work, to [samorealizovatsja], its otherwise congenital talents will prove to be completely unexposed.

    ILI on the work and the house

    Although ILI in chiefs clearly it does not strive, its subconscious, latent vanity is satisfied, if it it actually proves to be, since it considers that it is worthy that in order to head laboratory, institute, university… up to the ministry and states. This assurance is sometimes completely valid, and it is based on the ability ILI to strategically think that, undoubtedly, it is one of the most important and necessary manager's qualitys of any rank.

    With the subordinates ILI prefers the valid style of contact, knows how well to see the possibilities of one or other coworker or another and correctly these possibilities to use. But not always it is decided to completely entrust work to subordinates. Being it is inclined everything to check, it not easily is reconciled with the thought, which someone can make work better than it itself.

    ILI he is period by [odnoljubom] and good family man. In the family it prefers not to quarrel, as far as possible to go away from the conflict, even if partner develops a certain intolerance. However, in the critical situations it is capable “to be exploded”, to lose control over itself, to arrive literally into the state of rabies, — in such cases work it can reach the beating of dishes and child abuse.

    It is exceptionally thoughtful to its children, especially it cares about their formation. No money and forces for this to it it is it's a pity. However, in questions of way of life, health and health it relies completely on its husband (to husband).
    INFp-Ni

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    Thanks, misutii! Anyone still in doubt about the truth of the general thesis INTp(Socionics) = INTP(MBTT) should read carefully all the passages that describe the INTp's attitudes and how his general IP temperament manifests itself in his actions (or lack of).

    I haven't checked every part of the translation, but I noticed an obvious and important slip:

    "Most people, however, will always treat him in a neutral manner (symbolizes the weak function)."

    What is meant in the original version is either that he is neutral towards most people, or that the most things he is willing to give up are neutral to him. I'm not sure which. And the word "symbolizes is no good. Not sure how we should phrase it though.

    Where can all of Filatova's type descriptions be found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Thanks, misutii! Anyone still in doubt about the truth of the general thesis INTp(Socionics) = INTP(MBTT) should read carefully all the passages that describe the INTp's attitudes and how his general IP temperament manifests itself in his actions (or lack of).

    irrelevant....

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Thanks, misutii! Anyone still in doubt about the truth of the general thesis INTp(Socionics) = INTP(MBTT) should read carefully all the passages that describe the INTp's attitudes and how his general IP temperament manifests itself in his actions (or lack of).

    irrelevant....
    Not if you want to understand Socionics and have a correct view of the types. For example Rick and FDG haven't accepted the truth of INTp=INTP yet. And that correlation is so important that I will continue to point it out whenever I find it appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Thanks, misutii! Anyone still in doubt about the truth of the general thesis INTp(Socionics) = INTP(MBTT) should read carefully all the passages that describe the INTp's attitudes and how his general IP temperament manifests itself in his actions (or lack of).

    irrelevant....
    Not if you want to understand Socionics and have a correct view of the types. For example Rick and FDG haven't accepted the truth of INTp=INTP yet. And that correlation is so important that I will continue to point it out whenever I find it appropriate.
    the correlation is totally irrelevant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    Thanks, misutii! Anyone still in doubt about the truth of the general thesis INTp(Socionics) = INTP(MBTT) should read carefully all the passages that describe the INTp's attitudes and how his general IP temperament manifests itself in his actions (or lack of).

    irrelevant....
    Not if you want to understand Socionics and have a correct view of the types. For example Rick and FDG haven't accepted the truth of INTp=INTP yet. And that correlation is so important that I will continue to point it out whenever I find it appropriate.
    My take:

    INTp Te = INTJ
    INTj Ti = INTJ
    INTp Ni = INTP
    INTj Ne = INTP

    End of story. If you look around yourself IRL, you will never disagree with him, because it is the only observable reality, and otherwise you have gotten their types wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    My take:

    INTp Te = INTJ
    INTj Ti = INTJ
    INTp Ni = INTP
    INTj Ne = INTP
    That's a possible explanation of the problem that has also been suggested by Jonathan. It may be true, but it would mean that I am an INTp Ni. Such a solution of the problem is acceptable until strong evidence would suggest otherwise. The intuitive subtype of INTp is clearly the best fit for me based on the type descriptions, and almost every INTP description in MBTT is portraying an intuitive subtype of INTp.

    My strongest argument against the hypothesis is probably that every MBTT INTP description is describing someone with an IP temperament, and that at least Filatova and Stratiyevskaya are also describing the INTp as having an IP temperament. If your correlations are true, the INTj Ne would have an IP temperament and the INTp Te would have an IJ temperament. And that would probably mean that the type descriptions in Socionics should be revised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus

    I haven't checked every part of the translation, but I noticed an obvious and important slip:

    "Most people, however, will always treat him in a neutral manner (symbolizes the weak function)."

    What is meant in the original version is either that he is neutral towards most people, or that the most things he is willing to give up are neutral to him. I'm not sure which. And the word "symbolizes is no good. Not sure how we should phrase it though.

    Where can all of Filatova's type descriptions be found?
    I have the book saved as an html file i can send it you if you want, i've been slowly editing the type profiles, so far i have done INFp, ESTp, INFj, ENFj and INTp, i'm averaging like one a month, lol, half way done ESFj.

    after your finished checking this over completely please tell me what i edited wrongly, and ill change those with the errors you already caught, these are my fave type descriptions by far
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    I have the book saved as an html file i can send it you if you want, i've been slowly editing the type profiles, so far i have done INFp, ESTp, INFj, ENFj and INTp, i'm averaging like one a month, lol, half way done ESFj.
    That would be great. I am very interested in reading those profiles. I agree with you that they seem very good.

    You've done a great job, and I don't know if I can manage to check everything in it, but if I will notice something I will of course point it out. It is sometimes difficult to tell for sure what was meant. The overall picture is rather clear though, I think.

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    In any case, that's probably the best ILI description I've ever read. I think it's even better than Strat's. Strat seems too stuck on the "time" stuff. Filatova's makes more sense to me and seems more like real life. I'd love to see your translations of Filatova's descriptions for the other types too...If you're willing, maybe you could start with the INxx types and work outward (if you haven't already).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    In any case, that's probably the best ILI description I've ever read. I think it's even better than Strat's. Strat seems too stuck on the "time" stuff. Filatova's makes more sense to me and seems more like real life. I'd love to see your translations of Filatova's descriptions for the other types too...If you're willing, maybe you could start with the INxx types and work outward (if you haven't already).
    i've posted the INFp, INTp, INFj, ESTp, ENFj ones here, i'm done the ESFj one but i have to read over it (gah... proofreading...) so far when i've been doing them I've had a friend of that type in mind to help me and that's how i decide whether to use he/she so the next ones i finish will probly be ENTp, INTj, ESFp and ENFp (not necessarily in that order), i like to print it out and give the description to a friend that doesn't know anything about socionics and their eyes will light up, i think i get high off that moment lol
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    mistuii you are fucking slow. no offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    mistuii you are fucking slow. no offense.
    lol this is what happens when you rely on an INFp, smartass
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    well, the work is really well done. Is there some sort of incentive we can offer you to complete the work?
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    put "<3 misutii" in your sig
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    well, the work is really well done. Is there some sort of incentive we can offer you to complete the work?
    thx lol, the problem is i'm in school and i have a masters application & portfolio due march 1st so i'm up to my eyeballs in work right now. i finished the ESFj description though so I'll post it, if you have any specific request i'll work on that one next
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    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    well, the work is really well done. Is there some sort of incentive we can offer you to complete the work?
    thx lol, the problem is i'm in school and i have a masters application & portfolio due march 1st so i'm up to my eyeballs in work right now. i finished the ESFj description though so I'll post it, if you have any specific request i'll work on that one next
    INTj, ENTp, ESFp, ISFp, and ISFj would be the ones I'd be most interested in.

    Can we get someone to make all of your Filatova posts into "stickies"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    Quote Originally Posted by misutii
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    well, the work is really well done. Is there some sort of incentive we can offer you to complete the work?
    thx lol, the problem is i'm in school and i have a masters application & portfolio due march 1st so i'm up to my eyeballs in work right now. i finished the ESFj description though so I'll post it, if you have any specific request i'll work on that one next
    INTj, ENTp, ESFp, ISFp, and ISFj would be the ones I'd be most interested in.

    Can we get someone to make all of your Filatova posts into "stickies"?
    k i'm going to do INTj next cuz there's lots of them here and i have good INTj friend so i have something to work with and make it easier

    edit: ALSO for some reason the ENTj description is not in the fucking textbook!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrr
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    ILI’s fitness for work is exceptionally selective. If he finds the proper career he can immediately display remarkable energy and fantastic fitness in his tasks. His life can be a continuum of sleepless nights and states of extreme stress, which last for months or even years. Naturally works in solid and pedantic manner.

    On the other hand if he fails finding the right job/career then his skepticism begins to take over as he asks himself, “Why is all of this necessary? Nothing good can come of this…” He cannot even force himself to meet the bare minimum expectations, and may lead to serious repercussions such as being dismissed from work or dropping out of college/university… In such cases he feels helpless to do anything and irrationality leaves him at difficulty even to meet the minimum needs for survival.

    Fe – the weakest function. Being weakly orientated in the area of emotions, ILI prefers to hide his feelings. However, if strongly afflicted his emotionality can literally lash out, he may lose control of himself. In order to protect himself from such situations ILI prefers to maintain a distant psychological distance. Familiarity irritates him, he adheres to a steady and logical manner of interaction.

    ILI often compensates for his weak emotional involvement, in interactions with others, through intellectual games. His goal with such games is similar to that of checkers: to win, show his competence, and to demonstrate another’s mistakes . ILI is a master of games; he loves to play with people and events.

    His inherent strengths frequently manifest a bi-polar nature: some individuals of this psycho-type develop an enviable sense of purpose and perseverance, while others on the contrary demonstrate complete inertia. In conclusion, it must be said that, for ILI, the proper job/career is especially important to find or his innate talents will be utterly wasted.
    How similar are these traits to that of ENTjs?
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    Intuitive- logical introvert tells about itself, and others of — about it

    When to me it was ' of years, I quarrelled with my best friend. Each of villages to our bicycle, and we departed after quarrel. I was terrible ashes. My friend began to travel about house, and I, having a little waited, rapidly it went to it across, until it yet saw me. We encountered, fight was stuck. It, without desiring, of course, that, broke down to me hand. Malice — was past very painful, I could not arise to the legs. The father of my friend came running, took me for the hands and it carried home. I make look stout, when it brought me to our apartment, I asked him to lower me to the floor, after which wiped tears itself it entered into the apartment: me it did not be desirable to frighten mom.

    In our [detsadovskoj] group it was only of 2 machines, with which especially they loved to play one boy and 4. then one machine got out of order. That boy began to strongly shout so that they would give the remained sole machine to him. This began to occur each day, and machine now always was given up to it. Patience my broke: once I took and broke down its — let generally then no one it will be reached!

    Proud nature ILI in these two examples comes out sufficiently vividly. It is necessary to supplement that its “blasting” reaction to some situations lets itself be known already in the early childhood.

    In the childhood I strand in aunt, and mom with dad arrived once a week to the output. Pope always requested me: “That new?” When I reported everything to it, he named me “walking encyclopedia”, since I could answer by quite such mode each of his questions.

    Once governess in kindergarten requested us: “Eight degrees of — this heat- or is cold?” I remember that I answered: “A this looking when. Is in summer cold, and in winter heat-!”

    To be “walking encyclopedia” and to be able to consider the problem is complex (heat- — coldly) of — characteristic feature ILI, since it relates seriously to the acquisition of knowledge, the aim is this already at the childhood. Accumulation of knowledge for ILI the same as for other of — the accumulation of material values.

    Parents consider me lazy person. It is sooner anything, this connected with the fact that I develop great zeal neither to the domestic works nor to the work on the vegetable-garden. If it is placed to me, let us say, to wash out floor once a week, I him will wash out, but is not more than one time. When they charge something to me, I love so that all instructions would be exact and concrete: if should be placed salt into the soup, then it is how much precisely ladles, if it is necessary to weld something, then how much specifically minutes this is cooked… I do not love, when they once more indicate to me that I must make. It occurs, that only I will be going to remove in my room (when to me annoys disorder, I I make this with the pleasure), as mom he will say that I must remove — and immediately entire my desire it vanishes.

    I have the sufficiently small circle of friends, in all ' of men. In relations with the girls I am constant (in 4 years he was encountered only with two, the break with the first occurring on its initiative).

    I am sufficiently indecisive, especially into some the debatable questions: I weigh all variants, and if nothing re-weighs — I fall into difficult situation. To emotions, as a rule, I do not give “right of suffrage”, I prefer to throw to the draw coin…

    In the life of — it is cautious and circumspect. When to ides one, I try, as far as possible, to cost noisy companies, any sources of potential danger. If in the evening I go in the entrance or I open to someone door, then seemingly inwardly I will mobilize, I am adjusted to the likely danger.

    In this case we deal, probably, with the strongly intro-twirlrhotank type of the individual: this indicates the tendency toward the work singly, and the increased care in the behavior. You will focus attention also to the tendency toward the punctuality in the fulfillment of assignments, connected with the sensory problems, — the melting of soup, etc here, is obvious, works the normative sense of sensations (BS), which is subordinated to indications from the side.

    It is thin, high, they will close, it is a little scattered. Eyes usually are sad (according to expression of one of our their general familiar — “as in the beaten dog”). It prefers to carry strict suits. It is completely old-fashioned in the manner of contact. Man believing, but rites and his service do not interest.

    Study on [mekhmate] is considered the error: its dream of — to terminate university and to act into the theatrical school. He is fascinated by scene seriously, it plays the leading parts in the amateur theater.

    In this occurence by somewhat not expected, are at first glance, seems entrainment by theater. However, among ILI are encountered many splendid artists. The ability to penetrate in the essence of, including human nature, helps it in this.

    With the first view on it immediately strike its gloomy view sullenly, round-shouldered figure, “bear” gait. Everything, who with it dealt, they noted his intellect, developed not over the years, yes and outwardly it according to friends and familiar, was carried out the impression “young old man”. In the eighth class they communicated to it that for the excellent study it is freed from the examinations, but instead of be glad at this and resting, it with its ordinary perseverance was taken to be prepared for them. Its scent did not conduct: literally they apologized themselves and communicated before the examinations themselves before it that examinations to yield it was obliged.

    And again we are convinced of the fact that for ILI is characteristic the ability to foresee the correct development of situation. It is good that such occurence occurred ILI, which knows how to foresee the course of events. This history could terminate not in better shape for the representative of any other psycho-type.

    S. possesses excellent intuitive scent. Its high-order brother several years ago was married. After short contact with the wife of brother it expressed the solid opinion that his reject was unsuccessful. Brother perceived this as joke, he loved wife, and son, but through several months bred.

    It badly transfers tears and hysterics. As that, after quarrelling with the mom, it went away into its room. After a certain time, thinking that the mom already calmed down, she was returned. Mom is stale on the sofa and cried. Another would begin to request forgiveness, to comfort or would somehow otherwise manifest its participation to the mother, but s. simply again went away to itself.

    Latter paragraph is especially interesting for the characteristics of the weak functions of this psycho-type. The deficiency “ethical” function (CHE) impels ILI to avoid the heart-rending scenes and the explanations, where it is emotionally helpless.

    On the work I excellently “destroyed” several strange methodologies, after proving that they contain th errors e unnoticed previously. But very- that for me make anything properly large thus far could not — I necessarily it must read entire existing on this question literature, master the mathematical apparatus, used in the methodology, etc as a result of — my knowledge and interests are extremely wide, but useful result is, as a rule, close to zero (besides several narrow tasks, where I I already know everything I can do everything, anything).

    Dotoshnost, scrupulousness ILI, if these qualities pass reasonable limits, they actually become brake for its work. In subphylum with the intensive logic this almost necessarily occurs.

    About my fitness for work I can say the following: in me there are the attacks of laziness, but if work me actually entices, then I can sit through entire night, without being distracted to the alien things.

    In the school I loved chemistry and mathematics. With me at the desk sat my friend, who very well did not learn on these objects. But on the tests was received so that it was received five, and I set of three. The fact is that I usually could not reject to it in the help and he first solved the control to him, and then already to itself, and it did not always manage. Generally I noted that work for others I execute more thoroughly than for itself.

    And even about the thoroughness. It is very difficult to force me to, for example, wash out dishes. But if already I undertake this, then I try to wash out in the manner that if this dishes it was intended to the utilization in the surgical branch. Never I will leave not one [nevymytoj] dish, ladle, plate…

    Its fitness for work of — object is particular. It occurs, that several days in a row it can [pobezdelnichat], especially if he has bad mood. True, its mood frequently varies: the periods of depression are changed by raising and, correspondingly, with a increase in the fitness for work. In the days raising it is very active and active. To it it transported, that the month of its entry into the institute ([MGIMO]) coincided precisely with the period of excellent health. Literally in three days prior to the beginning of examinations it doubted its forces, it went, which is named, not its itself. And suddenly it decided to enter precisely in [MGIMO], although it was not prepared for this earlier. To it fell successful ticket, it acted. Even in the childhood it saw itself by translator, who travels on the foreign countries, — was here now confirmed in reality, how good it it can “see” its future.

    It sometimes seems that it it is difficult by something to catch, to offend, to disappoint into the life, but this — not cold and inaccessible rock, completely no. It, is faster as water of — soft, which penetrates everywhere, that is adapted to any circumstances. Its this unconstrained tranquility greatly draws. Even periods of depression in it flow entirely differently, than in the majority of people. In them there are no, let us say, [suitsidnykh] desires, lowering hands this, are faster, weakening, withdrawal from the life, the tear of weakness, desire, so that they would be sorry it.

    Let us note, however that ILI it is far from always “soft” and “that adapting to any circumstances”! Probably, in this case we have ILI with the subphylum of Esenin (BI- CHE).

    The past I try not to stir, but plans for the future I generally consider a deep error, all this out of the reality, the sole reality of — present.

    It must acknowledg that of all typical historical examples of intuitive- logical introverts, for me it is most honorary and it is pleasant to prove to be in “[sotsiotipicheskom] relationship” with great teacher Socrates…

    Earlier I sufficiently seriously fell into the melancholy depressions. In autumn 1987 g. exceptionally powerful depression led me to the loss of proud title “student [NGU]”. The sight of the world at such moments, of course, sufficiently skeptical, and the world pays to you by the same coin.

    Later I became the soldier of the Soviet Army, where sufficiently effective recovery from the depression was begun. The first year to think about itself and its moods was simply there is no time, and the second year let to me sufficiently time for processing of accumulated information. First of all, it became complete obvious, that deepening into the depression of — the work of my inherent hands, that these are not reality, but the illusion, created by me by itself. From this escapes completely the obvious output: it is possible and not to fall into the depression, if not to pull at endlessly the past and not to build specially around itself the wall of endlessness, stacking with the love building block after the building block its speculative- philosophical fabrications. Much later, at the end 1991, to me were judged meet with the remarkable people, and they discovered to me eyes to the very simple, highest truth. This truth in the fact that man of — this is the cleanest spirit. I comprehended from that period that all bad states and the depression of — this are all out of the reality. The world is excellent, and I am filled appreciation to those, who discovered to me eyes to this.

    But this was then, and then, into 89- m to year, in the army, is tall and [kreplo] my conviction in the fact that the majority of the conventional mundane values are not in reality such. This conviction developed into the desire to seek that not perished, true, perpetual.

    Before us — the clearly intuitive subphylum of Balzac, i.e. subphylum with the intensive function 1- GO of canal (BI). Searches for spiritual perfection, a propensity to the contemplation and the religious searches for — the result of the activity of precisely this function. Observation about the neglect to the past and to the plans for the future is extremely significant. Present reality of the irrational psycho-type of — this almost always the reality of present day.

    Greatly I do not love “hot” enthusiasts! True, I realize that put in order them must not be, but my ego now and then is not maintained: I continually climb with my observations. This “cooling” they yield no use, but sometimes they can injure. There is in me the brother, who sometimes, in the completely inappropriate circumstances, raises enthusiastic noise, begins to swing by extremities to, in brief, introduce into the circumstances unhealthy agitation. My attempts to disabuse its — with the hints of — to nothing do not allegorically or give, it simply does not note them. After this, I speak out already the more discovered (but, as far as possible, correctly and accurately, so to me, in any case, it seems). It fades for the minute, it looks at me reproachful and it pronounces: “3 3 3… you mock?!”, but after five minute calm everything begins again.

    Criticisms ILI it attempts to cool dust of its collocutor, since most is inclined to see the world far from in the rose-colored tones. Its forecasts are painted with skepticism, but the weakness of its ethical function leads to the fact that the correct actually warning can be expressed in such form, that to collocutor is seen in it [izdevka].

    Even from the first classes of school I greatly loved to read and little by little created my inherent world. The heroes, who in it lived they, naturally, realized in themselves all best qualities, which pleased themselves me. My internal world was for me better than the external, because as its creator I directed this world along that path, which pleased itself me. I rested in this world, especially because relation with other people, especially in the school with the classmates, they were not very good. In any class there are its leaders, who do not respect “professors” and “[ochkarikov]” (true, they consider it their useful, when to eat the need to copy or to obtain prompt).

    Close friends in me also there were no — they they appeared only in the latter classes of school. To me only and it remained, what to turn to its internal world again and again. To 13—14 years it became for me antipode and simultaneously by the substitute of the world of external.

    Certainly, in the childhood I much dreamed. By whom only I did not wish to be — and the officer OF THE KGB, and by cosmonaut, and still by someone. Then, already in the upper classes of school, it wanted to be scientist, biologist. But the ways of its achievement for some reason did not enter into the circle of my dreams about the future profession. I.e., I presented itself by, for example, scientific, but he did not think about the fact that for achievement this goal it is necessary to sit above the books, to sweat in the laboratory, etc.

    After completion of school I made the attempt to act in MGU. Me there they did not take, and on the insistence of parents I entered local pedagogical institute. Study in the institute without the stress stimulated well my laziness: I and early- that particular zeal was characterized by, but here, nothing, actually, without making, were received fives. But me was little arranged that, what me they there taught. I did not see for itself the prospects in the future works by biology; therefore he went away from the institute.

    Finally, in 1992 to me they described about [NGU], gave prospectuses. I decided to enter the faculty of natural sciences, but could not be made from this sudden attack. I did not act, also, for the following year. Probably, this was connected with the fact that I it broke the habit the methodical works. Finally, in this year nevertheless it acted.

    I very well feel the level of the culture of man, and in the company, where it is necessary to contend with another level of culture (as a rule, lower), I feel itself uncomfortably; however, I do not love snobbery and feeling of the superiority, which so sometimes love to demonstrate some people.

    Greatly I love fantasy. Even itself I write, and it is successful. In my view, it is necessary, since imagination wakes, makes it necessary to expand world view and horizon. Never it was inclined to the mysticism and the religion, since I consider as the their become obsolete forms of spiritual life. But the world for me was always full of secrets, and nature, especially forest, — was filled some of particular with aura spirituality. Generally entire world causes admiration, it is desirable to learn about its secrets and its future.

    Present love is alien two years after completion of school to me. When I fell in love, then he considered that now- that will be displayed those feelings, which so much was discussed in the books and the films, but when them it did not follow, I was strongly disappointed (first), and then.— is lost. I already began to seem that I am not at all capable to strong feelings, and only then I comprehended that the love occurs different. Feelings are not filled me with whole, then this [vzaimodopolnennost] of the love of sensual, emotional and reasonable (if it is possible to say — “of logical”) ensured to me constancy in the attachment, which lasts already several years.

    This story entirely characterizes all basic properties of psycho-type THE ILI: it introverted the closed nature, attention, are faster, to the internal experiences, but not to the external events. Especially vividly youth describes his irrational vital rhythm, difficulties in the organization of regular work.

    Characteristically also for the logical ILI the feeling of love, which is not " filled with whole”.

    Most noticeable quality in it of — the high level of intellect. It knows how very rapidly to read, instantly catching the essence of narration, it loves serious literature, theories of global nature, it develops interest in the authors of general philosophical directions. Sometimes is created impression, that its head, as if sponge, soaks all knowledge. Practically on any question it has its confident judgment and deposits it decisively; moreover the tone of its propositions is such, which to object to it is difficultly.

    Possessing extensive knowledge, it willingly shares by them, it loves and simple to have a talk, to describe some histories from its own life and those happening of the relatives, the familiar. In this case it is capable of being fascinated and of beginning to remember some fine details, which hardly supplement something important into the narration. It as if cannot leave that past life, that reality, about which he tells, and one cannot not the always note the reaction of collocutor, [otsledit], as far as to it this is interesting.

    Greatly it loves to give advice, to persistently propagandize something, that is seemed it by useful for those surrounding.

    Simply it affects its fitness for work: after several decades it never took not one hospital sheet. Possibly, this work in several institutions it connected with the fact that combines with the regular visit of basin, the game into tennis, and these works support its high vital tone.

    It executed its doctoral dissertation at the joint of economics, social science and philosophy. To be protected by it it was necessary in the academic council of strange for it institute and city of — it strand entirely elsewhere. That happened during the defense, what it foresee in no way could: among the members of council proved to be the groups, hostile to those, who presented its dissertation, and they failed work with the minimum advantage of negative votes. This impact could carry out men of rare force and excerpt only.

    It to the short period was returned in [otchij] house, it is a little alien into itself and… in two years it protected new dissertation, this time with the complete success. From the very beginning in it it flashed not the shadow of doubt about the fact that it will nevertheless protect its work.

    The also at the end 80th it prevented: now it cannot be either accumulated, or deposited money even in the state banks. Everything, that you have, are better to spend on necessary, best anything of — to the maintenance of health. In actuality it — sole from my multiple familiar, which lost not ruble in our “rebuilding” and “recutting” of life.

    If it is directed to some of goal, it cannot be either brought down, or stopped. Curious property of its nature: if we to it necessary in the definite sequence consider with the different people some problem, precisely, in by this necessary by it sequence these people is as if accidentally and without its visible participation fall on its path.

    Interesting it was to observe, as dashingly it somehow was straightened with the peasants from the repair shop of coolers. It should it was necessary vary aggregate, but, as always in such cases, it encountered caddishness and extortion. Its position was such: we live in the bureaucratic state; therefore to act is necessary only by bureaucratic methods. “[Nakatav] cart”, it is banal to the most important head of workshop and, after placing paper to it on the desk, she said: “If you do not make that that they must make in the performance of official duty, this paper will go to your authorities!” The in several hours repaired cooler was with the apologies supplied to the doors of its apartment on the eighth stage, although the delivery of cooler did not enter in the responsibility of workshop.

    Vast load on the work, domestic works, the concern about the daughter do not prevent it from remain spectacular and attractive woman. It splendid culinary specialist, moreover not only very well it prepares, but also knows how beautifully and with the taste to cover to the desk, never will supply grain, oil, salt poorly, for in all in it carried they are located beautiful supports, flanges, napkins. Greatly love the flowers of — they almost always they cost in the vase on its desk.

    Its greatest love of — the daughter, for happiness of whom, on its inherent confirmation, it will stop not before how.

    Before us, undoubtedly, Balzac's subphylum with the intensive right bloc of — the here and well expressed business qualities, pressure, purposefulness; clearly are outlined also the intensive sense, the ability to be occupied by economy, health, exterior view.

    Head of our production of — unique individual. I will begin from the fact that it no one in nothing can reject. Such impression is created, that each drives on it, as he wishes. Will be converted to it men with the request of — it it usually answers: “Yes, yes, I this will make, only wait, if you please!” Naive petitioner awaits his, he thinks, that any minute now work it will be decided, but can pass hour, and two:., and head, it proves to be, it is already occupied with other works, affairs of other petitioners, who are more energetic and pushy, experienced in its weaknesses and they will not fall behind it, until it with them directly makes that promised.

    Usually our head is held very peacefully, to the people it relates validly, without the excess, emotions; when it they strongly press from all sides by requirements or requests of — heavily it sighs, it [krjakhtit], it puckers and requests: “Well that, this to you is directly now must? It is good, good, I this will necessarily make, only here I am too occupied during the next three days, the commission from the ministry works, and then I will be freed, and we with you peacefully this will discuss”.

    Always, however, proves to be so that and in three days appears some urgent work, and through three more… and so always. In this case it no one consciously not does " conduct never for the nose”, but it is completely sincerely confident, which any minute now will be freed!

    It would seem, by what simpler: to distribute multiple responsibilities between the coworkers of — and work solved. There is no AN, he does not wish to transmit even small authorizations to someone other, up to the fact that itself rings in the neighboring section, if it is necessary to reach some tool, instead of that malfunctioned, or is occupied by questions of illumination in the shop of — recently, for example, itself it went to the storage it brought lighting tubes. But recently its secretary complained herself to the typewriter: trying it [barakhlit]. So it found nothing best how to bring to it from the house its.

    Now I already understand, that he does not wish to transmit even small works to someone other, since this situation, as now, satisfies his vain desire to be always most important, even in the details. Somehow it invited us to itself on the birthday, and its mom with the pride told about the son, that, having still learned in the school, it could not allow so that someone in the class would solve problems better than it. If, let us say, on the control someone showed the best result of — it it came it home and solved the problems of all section, it after which again became “first”, but in the class it advertized its successes and with the pleasure helped never others. Will be created impression, that during the workday it is not the owner of its time, it as raft without the oars, it will swim along the river: who will engage it, he will adhere to that, or he is turned on whose- that to will; therefore is found almost always in the authority of other people and circumstances. And only when workday is terminated and all diverge through the houses, it begins to be occupied by its main thing, actually, by the work of — it thinks over strategic questions of the development of our production. Specifically, because it is capable to a good forecast of events, it knows how to find approach to any high authorities. By its concerns in our difficult time we still never sat without the wage… Moreover, it teaches to punch supplemental means in order to support its coworkers.

    It occurs and so (true, very rarely), that it breaks loose itself. Then it is similar to the volcano, the long period which accumulated forces, which suddenly is spilled and with the rabid energy splashes out the incandescent, seething lava! Then it becomes obvious, that its apparent flabbiness, that is named, “up to a certain time — until the time”. In reality it sees everything, it understands and will not allow everything so that they would in earnest restrain it.

    Once in our neighbors the tragic case occurred: young trainee proved to be next to the pile of the vast blocs, which collapsed exactly at that moment when he passed by on the yard. They drove away fellow in the resuscitation, life to it they saved, but hand and leg it was necessary to take away. All were depressed in our section, and our head pensive said: “Probably, god to it gave this fate for some sins in the past life…”
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