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    "There are three existence-spheres: the esthetic, the ethical, the religious. The metaphysical is abstraction, and there is no human being who exists metaphysically. The metaphysical, the ontological, is, but it does not exist, for when it exists it does so in the esthetic in the ethical, in the religious, and when it is, it is the abstraction from or a something prior to the esthetic, the ethical, the religious. The esthetic sphere is only a transition sphere, and therefore its highest expression is repentance as a negative action. The esthetic sphere is the sphere of immediacy, the ethical the sphere of requirement (and this requirement is so infinite that the individual always goes bankrupt), the religious the sphere of fulfillment, but, please note, not a fulfillment such as when one fills an alms box or a sack with gold, for repentance has specifically created a boundless space, and as a consequence the religious contradiction: simultaneously to be out on 70,000 fathoms of water and yet be joyful. Just as the ethical sphere is a passageway-which one nevertheless does not pass through once and for all-just as repentance is its expression, so repentance is the most dialectical. No wonder, then, that one fear it, for if one gives it a finger it takes the whole hand. Just as Jehovah in the Old Testament visits the iniquities of the fathers upon the children unto the latest generations, so repentance goes backward, continually presupposing the object of its investigation. In repentance there is the impulse of the motion, and therefore everything is reversed. This impulse signifies precisely the difference between the esthetic and the religious as the difference between the external and the internal."






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    "What I really need is to get clear about what I must do, not what I must know, except insofar as knowledge must precede every act. What matters is to find a purpose, to see what it really is that God wills that I shall do; the crucial thing is to find a truth which is truth for me, to find the idea for which I am willing to live and die."

    "Above all do not forget your duty to love yourself; do not permit the fact that you have been set apart from life in a way, been prevented from participating actively in it, and that you are superflous in the obtruse eyes of a busy world, above all, do not permit this to deprive you of your idea of yourself, as if your life, if lived in inwardness, did not have just as much meaning and worth as that of any human being in the eyes of all-wise Governance, and considerably more than the busy, busiest haste of busy-ness - busy with wasting life and losing itself."

    "The eternal fears no future, hopes for no future, but love possesses everything without ceasing, and there is no shadow of variation. As soon as he returns to himself, he understands this no more. He understands what bitter experiences have only all too unforgettably inculcated, the self-accusation, if the past has the kind of claim upon his soul that no repentance can entirely redeem, no trusting in God can entirely wipe out, but only God himself in the inexpressible silence of beatitude. The more of the past a person’s soul can still keep when he is left to himself, the more profound he is."

    "To be a teacher does not mean simply to affirm that such a thing is so, or to deliver a lecture, etc. No, to be a teacher in the right sense is to be a learner. Instruction begins when you, the teacher, learn from the learner, put yourself in his place so that you may understand what he understands and the way he understands it."

    "Seek first God's Kingdom, that is, become like the lilies and the birds, become perfectly silent — then shall the rest be added unto you."

    "The more one suffers, the more, I believe, has one a sense for the comic. It is only by the deepest suffering that one acquires true authority in the use of the comic, an authority which by one word transforms as by magic the reasonable creature one calls man into a caricature."




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    dio, posting a wikie link on here doesn't help in the least (we can all wikie Kirkie on owr own

    For what i can recall, infj, intp and intj have all been suggetsed for him.

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    rick has him INFp. i don't know too much about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    rick has him INFp. i don't know too much about him.
    That's one of my less responsible typings, done after a superficial review of short bios and pictures. I'm open to alternatives.

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    It is possible that he is an INFp still though, but I believe that he is probably an INFj. The logic of his philosophy proposes a system of faith built upon over and , which are the functions which attempt to rationalize religion, something that Kierkegaard vehemently opposed.
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    i agree with infj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    rick has him INFp. i don't know too much about him.
    That's one of my less responsible typings, done after a superficial review of short bios and pictures. I'm open to alternatives.
    It seems sensible to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos
    It is possible that he is an INFp still though, but I believe that he is probably an INFj. The logic of his philosophy proposes a system of faith built upon over and , which are the functions which attempt to rationalize religion, something that Kierkegaard vehemently opposed.
    I used to think INFJ before too. Based o nthe same arguments as you (in general).
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    Default Søren Kierkegaard

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    From the secondary sources of which I'm familiar, EII was my first thought. Certainly NF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Søren Kierkegaard
    "What I really need is to get clear about what I must do, not what I must know, except insofar as knowledge must precede every act. What matters is to find a purpose, to see what it really is that God wills that I shall do; the crucial thing is to find a truth which is truth for me, to find the idea for which I am willing to live and die."
    It does seem Delta-ish and maybe specifically INFj. At least / I think. I don't know too much about him or his works to really have strong judgment.

    Regardless, it is a great quote, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    It does seem Delta-ish and maybe specifically INFj. At least / I think. I don't know too much about him or his works to really have strong judgment.

    Regardless, it is a great quote, in my opinion.
    Remember Ti are obsessed with "the truth"

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    It does seem Delta-ish and maybe specifically INFj. At least / I think. I don't know too much about him or his works to really have strong judgment.

    Regardless, it is a great quote, in my opinion.
    Finding a purpose and blah blah blah sounds more Ni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Remember Ti are obsessed with "the truth"
    True, but all truths are not the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Finding a purpose and blah blah blah sounds more Ni.
    A purpose is /.

    Meaning is /.
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    Yeah, I believe he was ENFp.

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    Concepts, like individuals, have their histories and are just as incapable of withstanding the ravages of time as are individuals. But in and through all this they retain a kind of homesickness for the scenes of their childhood.
    Soren Kierkegaard

    Don't forget to love yourself.
    Soren Kierkegaard

    Declaring type...LSI

    Far from idleness being the root of all evil, it is rather the only true good.
    Soren Kierkegaard

    Beta...LSI

    I begin with the principle that all men are bores. Surely no one will prove himself so great a bore as to contradict me in this.
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    It seems essential, in relationships and all tasks, that we concentrate only on what is most significant and important.
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    Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.
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    Marriage brings one into fatal connection with custom and tradition, and traditions and customs are like the wind and weather, altogether incalculable.
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    I disagree Maritsa, I think he is just using his Id functions.
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    IEI. I read some of Kierkegaard's work several years ago. He always struck me as a religious 'thinker' who sought to remove inquiry of the religious sphere away from the purview of both objective science and reasoned logic. He also tended to emphasize the importance of emotionalism and the subjective experience of the human agent.
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    I read "The Seducer's Diary" some years ago. It really made an impression in me, it's quite an unconventional book. (I recommend it).

    I agree, he seems IEI.

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    WOW I'd never considered IEI, I think that's a really good type consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    WOW I'd never considered IEI, I think that's a really good type consideration.
    You narrow Ne is out of order.

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    IEI-Fe
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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