Results 1 to 40 of 40

Thread: ENFj and ESTp activity relations (SLE-EIE)

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    USA
    TIM
    EIE Ni
    Posts
    317
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default ENFj and ESTp activity relations (SLE-EIE)

    I was wondering if anyone ever had an activity relatioship...How did it go specifically ENFj-ESTp?
    ENFj Ni subtype 3w4
    "And once you lose your way you have two choices. Find the person you used to be or lose that person completely"
    formerly onetreehilluver

  2. #2
    Expat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    10,853
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I have observed an ENFj-ESTp activity relationship more or less closely, between two guys (a friendly work relationship).

    Activity relationships between two extroverts are mutually satisfying and mutually frustrating. Especially in this particular case, if they share the same goals, there is a lot of mutual understanding. However, since the dominant function of one is the hidden agenda of the other, there is also frustration. The ENFj is irritated that the ESTp is taken much more seriously, and achieves much more, when going into Se mode to impose his/her will on others by sheer confrontation. The ESTp is irritated that the ENFj manages to better mold other people's impression of them than the ESTp.

    On the other hand, the ENFj thinks of the ESTp, "doesn't s/he realize that people sometimes see him/her as a pushy jerk?" And the ESTp thinks, "ugh, nobody takes him/her seriously when trying to be pushy with others".

    Between a man and a woman -- I think the ENFj woman will admire the ESTp man's pushiness and energy while rolling her eyes at his relative lack of understanding of the effect it has on others. The ESTp will probably like the ENFj woman while wishing she'd be more willing to go along with his impulses when he wants to do something.

    The ESTp woman will envy the ENFj man's skill at being admired while finding him a bit of a wimp. The ENFj man will be a bit intimidated by this woman who will be seen as intimidating by others, too but also admire her, while wishing she could be a bit more subtle about it.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

  3. #3
    he died with a felafel
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    326
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    ah, glad we're on this topic. any real life feedback onthe estj-enfp activity?

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    TIM
    ILI
    Posts
    2,916
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by he died with a felafel
    ah, glad we're on this topic. any real life feedback onthe estj-enfp activity?
    Yes. I posted that before. I have a close friend who's ESTj. Si-subtype??

    Hmm. He's pretty into IT, computer stuff. And I took a course on it. But he took a design course in his younger days. And he's always asking me for help regarding coding programs and stuff. He's constantly asking me to learn more or to do my research so we could do stuff together, like creating programs and stuff.

    He pretty much enjoys learning stuff on his own, without taking courses which he has to pay. And he would tell me to do some self-learning, so we could share what we've learnt. He's also constantly asking me to "go work!", take an extra job in the evening(like he does). And it's not me. I need time for other stuff. Not only work!

    And I'll be sharing new theories that I've read and it drives to go look up on that stuff too. Every time we talk, it's about doing stuff. Or he'd plan that we start a new project or something. And I'd be pretty enthusiastic about it. Yet, most of the time, things don't pull through.

    Eh, anyway, he usually tells me I'm not working hard enough and I'm too lazy or I spend my time doing too many unnecessary things, etc. And I think he works too much, well, he spends too much of his time at work anyway.

    I'm not sure how to describe it in socionics terms, maybe this isn't a good example. But it's all I have for now.
    INTp
    sx/sp

  5. #5
    Hot Message FDG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Freiburg im Breisgau
    TIM
    ENTj
    Posts
    15,632
    Mentioned
    157 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I have interacted with some ENFjs. I have seen around two kinds of them:

    - There's one, which is slim and slightly neurotic, talks fast, a bit sickly, very elegant when walking, very fast with the mind. Medium height. I cannot get along with them - they get angry at me because "I talk too loud, too fast, I make confusion with other people, too much chaos"; etc, I tell them to chill out, and go fuck themselves in the ass with a stick. Somehow, unfortunately, they seem to get turned on when I act brashly.

    - There's another one; a bit more tendent towards endomorphism. Usually likes more art, a bit less enlegant and doesn't give a shit about clothing. Easygoing, chatty, funny, always something interesting to say. We can chat for long, and no problem arises like with the ones above. I could totally imagine myself being with one of these; they're very open too, generally honest about their intentions/feeling etc...which is something I like. They have something in common with ENFps, but they are slightly different, too - ehm...

    I think I have one male friend which is a Fe-dominant, but I can't decide between ESFj and ENFj. I've observed an ESTp-Se ENFj-Fe male-male friendship, they seemed to be on very good terms.

    Mea: don't you find being told that you're too lazy to be extremely offensive? I think I'd throw things, smash plates and break mirrors, if anybody were to call me lazy

    Anyway, I see happening that sometimes ENFps will complain about, say, a poor health condition. I tell them to exercise lightly/do some aerobics/eat particular stuff etc...but the follow through seem to be a bit lacking
    Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    USA
    TIM
    EIE Ni
    Posts
    317
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    i agree with u expat but can anyone else go more in depth?
    ENFj Ni subtype 3w4
    "And once you lose your way you have two choices. Find the person you used to be or lose that person completely"
    formerly onetreehilluver

  7. #7
    force my hand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    2,334
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I have an ENFj sister who's attracted to ESTps like a moth to flame. They are exciting; she requires excitement. They give her attention; she requires attention. They want something from her; she isn't willing to give it... and that's where it falls apart.

    Actually, I just realized I've said nothing about type - this appears to be the main male/female interacton.

    My bad.

  8. #8
    Expat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    10,853
    Mentioned
    27 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by force my hand
    Actually, I just realized I've said nothing about type - this appears to be the main male/female interacton.
    Not really, only on a very narrow and stereotypical way.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

  9. #9
    ...been here longer than the fucking monarchy Ezra's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    UK
    TIM
    SLE-Ti
    Posts
    9,169
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default EIEs: Your Experiences of and with SLEs

    Please relay them.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

  10. #10
    JuJu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Springfield, Massachusetts, USA
    TIM
    EIE
    Posts
    2,704
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    My Ti-SLE friend came over last night...

    He is hilarious... He's very smart, but for whatever reason, doesn't emphasize that aspect of his personality... Talks a lot about sports and who he wants to bone... He has a lot of quirks re: how he/people should behave; however, he always listens to reason... And it's cool, during those conversations, I can literally see him thinking through some sort of belief--and he always seems to come to the right conclusion, imo.

    When he's here, we talk constantly... there are no lulls in the conversation, (like there are with LSIs sometimes, although those lulls w/ LSIs are natural, and I like them... not awkward pauses...) there's lots of laughing... usually he riffs on things in a satirical way, e.g. last night we were watching a basketball game and saw a bunch of shitty commercials... He's ingenious at skewering things like that--can pick it apart from so many angles... It's amazing.

    Is there anything in particular you want to know, Ezra?

    I have dated a couple ESTps... But ESTp women and men are pretty different...

  11. #11
    ...been here longer than the fucking monarchy Ezra's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    UK
    TIM
    SLE-Ti
    Posts
    9,169
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Nothing particular. Random experiences basically. Cheers.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

  12. #12
    Haikus Sirena's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    GAH, US
    TIM
    Mumpsimus
    Posts
    2,549
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Seeing discojoe's face every time I read your posts is freaking me out, Ezra. lol.

  13. #13
    ...been here longer than the fucking monarchy Ezra's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    UK
    TIM
    SLE-Ti
    Posts
    9,169
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirena View Post
    Seeing discojoe's face every time I read your posts is freaking me out, Ezra. lol.
    lol

    I'm sure people feel the same way about my face when they read his posts.
    Ideas don't determine who's right. Power determines who's right. And I have the power. So I'm right.

  14. #14
    I'm back, assholes! Herzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    TIM
    SLE
    Posts
    5,098
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    7 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JuJu View Post
    I have dated a couple ESTps... But ESTp women and men are pretty different...
    Elaborate!
    , Se-sub
    8w8-3w8-7w8 sx/sx

  15. #15
    Let's fly now Gilly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    TIM
    3w4 sx/so
    Posts
    24,757
    Mentioned
    91 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    SLE chicks are the only girls who can be hot without being physically attractive.

  16. #16
    Let's fly now Gilly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    TIM
    3w4 sx/so
    Posts
    24,757
    Mentioned
    91 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Smart SLEs are awesome, and dumb ones REALly suck.

  17. #17
    Let's fly now Gilly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    TIM
    3w4 sx/so
    Posts
    24,757
    Mentioned
    91 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Pretty much.

  18. #18
    Haikus
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    MI
    TIM
    IEI-Ni
    Posts
    10,060
    Mentioned
    223 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Default

    Nice. Very erotic in a natural way.

  19. #19
    07490's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    there
    Posts
    3,047
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    Vito Acconci, who I've typed as Se-SLE, is probably the ugliest son of a bitch who can simultaneously be a sex symbol:

    “Acconci is a hero, and not just for his ultra-radical work. He's proof that an ‘unconventionally attractive’ man, as I prefer to call him, can be a sex symbol. Acconci is sexy not because he's beautiful but because he's cool, passionate and smart. […] In 1990, an interviewer asserted that Acconci had ‘the most charismatic voice in the art world.’ The following year, Richard Prince asked him, ‘You really think you would have been able to fuck anyone without it?’ to which Acconci answered, ‘That's probably exaggerated,’ then conceded that his voice is the kind that ‘lulls you through a dark, disturbed night. . . promising intimacy, sincerity, integrity, maybe some deep, dark secret.’”


    YouTube - Vito Acconci - Undertone 1972 (extract)


    SLEs are walking sex.
    I cannot believe these kind of talks can make him look sexy, My grandma can say what he just said on the video, I'd do better than that.
    (D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

  20. #20
    Haikus
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    MI
    TIM
    IEI-Ni
    Posts
    10,060
    Mentioned
    223 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)

    Default

    ...

    Eh. Anything that turns you on is a matter of taste anyway, so don't worry about it.

  21. #21
    07490's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    there
    Posts
    3,047
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    BandD I like weird girls whose into kinky things.
    (D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

  22. #22
    take a second of me sarinana's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Originally from black hole, currently residing in Jupiter
    TIM
    EIE-Ni
    Posts
    1,166
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    SLE chicks are the only girls who can be hot without being physically attractive.
    are you sure?

  23. #23
    07490's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    there
    Posts
    3,047
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Allie View Post
    If you say so.
    I was joking of course, How can I be as sexy as merky?
    (D)IEE~FI-(C)SLE~Ni E-5w4(Sp/Sx)/7w8(So/Sp)/9w1(sp/sx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    1)
    A girl who I want to date, asks me: well first tell me how tall you are?
    My reply: well I will answer that, if you first tell me how much you weigh!

    2)
    A girl I was dating said she was oh so great at sex etc, but she didn't do blowjobs.
    My reply: Oh I'm really romantic etc, I just will never take you out to dinner.

  24. #24
    I've been waiting for you Satan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Behind you
    TIM
    sle sp/sx 845
    Posts
    4,956
    Mentioned
    137 Post(s)
    Tagged
    15 Thread(s)

    Default


  25. #25
    I've been waiting for you Satan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Behind you
    TIM
    sle sp/sx 845
    Posts
    4,956
    Mentioned
    137 Post(s)
    Tagged
    15 Thread(s)

    Default


  26. #26
    Let's fly now Gilly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    TIM
    3w4 sx/so
    Posts
    24,757
    Mentioned
    91 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    lol, brain bleach...

    *prepares the lobotomy wrench*

  27. #27
    take a second of me sarinana's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Originally from black hole, currently residing in Jupiter
    TIM
    EIE-Ni
    Posts
    1,166
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default SLE-Ti and EIE-Ni

    How would a relationship between these two types go?
    Sincerely Yours,

    Beyond the clouds. Beyond the sun.

    The Rebel without a cause.

  28. #28
    Bananas are good. Aleksei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    The Rift
    TIM
    C-EIE, 7-4-8 sx/sp
    Posts
    1,632
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Beautifully, in my experience.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

  29. #29
    what is essential is invisible to the eye fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Space
    TIM
    Seer
    Posts
    12,809
    Mentioned
    368 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    good sex?
    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    betas should be kept in zoos for children to stare and throw pop corn at.

  30. #30
    Bananas are good. Aleksei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    The Rift
    TIM
    C-EIE, 7-4-8 sx/sp
    Posts
    1,632
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    No idea. The two SLE-Ti's I know are a guy friend of mine who has acted as sort of a guiding mentor to me over the years, and my best friend's girlfriend.
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

    -Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov

  31. #31

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    USA
    TIM
    EIE Ni
    Posts
    317
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    a mix of emotions. It is very intense. It can have its good moments and then be the complete opposite. constant cycle. very good in terms of friendship.
    ENFj Ni subtype 3w4
    "And once you lose your way you have two choices. Find the person you used to be or lose that person completely"
    formerly onetreehilluver

  32. #32
    wants to be a writer. silverchris9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    3,107
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    good sex?
    Seconded.
    Not a rule, just a trend.

    IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.

    Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...

    I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.

  33. #33

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Saugerties,NY
    TIM
    ENFj-fe
    Posts
    947
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    It's not really that great, my mom is an sle-ti, we get along fine, but it's not the same as being around an sle-se, they really activate in a way that the other subtype can't.
    EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1


    As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
    Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962

  34. #34
    Hiding Typhon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Valhalla
    TIM
    Ni-ENFj
    Posts
    2,645
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    I had an online SLE-Ti friend once. He was less activating and dynamising than the Se subtypes I know, but we also had more interesting converstations since we both shared the same interests, our friendship was more about discussiong interetsing things than activation. We got along really well. I havent spoken to him in a long time. I wonder what became of him.

  35. #35
    ...been here longer than the fucking monarchy Ezra's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    UK
    TIM
    SLE-Ti
    Posts
    9,169
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    My ex was possibly Fe subtype, but she could've been Ni.

    We argued a lot, about politics and the state of the world, how she cared and I didn't. She was intense, like me, talkative, like me (she made me feel like an introvert on occasion), and she was fun to be around. She used to fall asleep a lot in films. She also criticised me a bit for being too complacent and lazy. Turns out I didn't love her enough (if at all). The sex was good, but not amazing (not dual sex).

  36. #36
    take a second of me sarinana's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Originally from black hole, currently residing in Jupiter
    TIM
    EIE-Ni
    Posts
    1,166
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    More details.
    Well he is a man whore.
    Probably one of the best looking males in this city.
    All of his friends are going after me. And after he noticed this he got very detached towards me.
    His older brother seems to fancy me too.
    One of his best friends told me that I am his type of a girl.
    He acts like he doesn't give a fuck when I give him attention yet when I don't he tries to get it. Now this I do not understand???
    One day he said my contradictional behaviour irritates him.
    The other day he said I don't have any real emotions.
    And actually he got a little angry at me one day. Usually he is apathetic towards girls. So I guess I am doing the right thing.
    Sincerely Yours,

    Beyond the clouds. Beyond the sun.

    The Rebel without a cause.

  37. #37

    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    139
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default ENFj/ESTp Activation and Activity Partners

    I have a best friend who is ESTP and I help him not use heavy drugs using my inferior functions and also I help develop his inferior ISTJ Model B or whatever so he can learn money management. This is the closest activation/activity partner relationship I've ever had.

    Lefty ENFJ 4w5

  38. #38
    Idiot Iris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    TIM
    EIE-Ni
    Posts
    1,001
    Mentioned
    56 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Sounds like a good relationship. It would be interesting to hear about the functional breakdown of your interactions based on Model A, since Model B is beyond my grasp.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
    .


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k

  39. #39

    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    139
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Iris View Post
    Sounds like a good relationship. It would be interesting to hear about the functional breakdown of your interactions based on Model A, since Model B is beyond my grasp.
    I could be wrong and someone please correct me if I am but I think model b is simply a mirror of the model a where the person displays unconscious traits of their mirror partner. ENFJ has a INFP model b and INFP has an ENFJ model b.

    that's my understanding of it.

  40. #40
    Haikus Beautiful sky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    EII land
    TIM
    EII INFj
    Posts
    22,740
    Mentioned
    531 Post(s)
    Tagged
    6 Thread(s)

    Default

    Aww that's so nice of you

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •