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    What types would be susceptible to brainwashing? And if the quality is individual, how does type reflect on it, what kind of brainwashing works on what types and so on.

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    all types are susceptible to brainwashing.

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    To what degree and how. I find it hard to believe that the same propaganda message will be attractive to a type and their conflictor.

    EDIT: But then again there have been great scam artists, namely religious leader, that seemingly pull the wool over everybody's eyes. I think they do it through understanding, guiding you away from your normal mode of thinking in a series of small steps so you don't notice the slow gradual change and replacing your views with their message thereby conditioning you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegledmaca
    To what degree and how. I find it hard to believe that the same propaganda message will be attractive to a type and their conflictor.
    THAT is a very different discussion from what i said. religious brainwashing, of course, might be more likely to convince an ISFj than an ENTp. ideological brainwashing vice versa.

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    The second part was my statement, opinion, it wasn't a reference to what you said. Why would religious stuff appeal more to ISFj-s then ENTp-s?

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    + HA v.

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    I think it depends on the type of brainwashing... straight propaganda vs true torturous will breaking reprogramming. I imagine with the right drugs and techniques anyone can be broken pretty easily.

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    Sorry but here the answer cannot be "biunivoc".

    Types with in the super-ID block are the most likely to be brainwashed.

    Types with in the ego-block the least likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Sorry but here the answer cannot be "biunivoc".

    Types with in the super-ID block are the most likely to be brainwashed.

    Types with in the ego-block the least likely.
    biunivoc << what does this word mean????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Sorry but here the answer cannot be "biunivoc".

    Types with in the super-ID block are the most likely to be brainwashed.

    Types with in the ego-block the least likely.
    biunivoc << what does this word mean????
    I don't know if it's the weed making me paranoid but that's suspiciously close to my name

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    I agree. All types are vulnerable to brainwashing.

    Which types are capable of brainwashing? My answer is pathological crosstypes. Crosstype functions can penetrate the foundations of a function's processing by seeing it as dependent on another function. This gives them great psychological power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Sorry but here the answer cannot be "biunivoc".

    Types with in the super-ID block are the most likely to be brainwashed.

    Types with in the ego-block the least likely.
    Huh. Why do you say that? Explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze8
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Sorry but here the answer cannot be "biunivoc".

    Types with in the super-ID block are the most likely to be brainwashed.

    Types with in the ego-block the least likely.
    Huh. Why do you say that? Explain?
    Ne types see what is being told to them in it's simplest terms; it's easier for them to weed out the bullshit. Ni Hidden Agenda needs something to "believe in," something to guide them through life, help them get where they're going.

    I bet you anything that about 99% of all cults are lead by ILEs and comprised predominantly of LSIs
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze8
    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Sorry but here the answer cannot be "biunivoc".

    Types with in the super-ID block are the most likely to be brainwashed.

    Types with in the ego-block the least likely.
    Huh. Why do you say that? Explain?
    Ne types see what is being told to them in it's simplest terms; it's easier for them to weed out the bullshit. Ni Hidden Agenda needs something to "believe in," something to guide them through life, help them get where they're going.

    I bet you anything that about 99% of all cults are lead by ILEs and comprised predominantly of LSIs
    Cults, yes; semi-popular religions, no. The latter seem to be led by INFjs and ENFjs. At one time Christianity was one such religion, remember. And today the Raelian's leader, Rael, is an ENFj from what I can figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    I bet you anything that about 99% of all cults are lead by ILEs and comprised predominantly of LSIs
    Not ILEs, but EIEs and, much less likely but still here and there, LIEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    I bet you anything that about 99% of all cults are lead by ILEs and comprised predominantly of LSIs
    Not ILEs, but EIEs and, much less likely but still here and there, LIEs.
    I agree, I can't really imagine an ILE as a pillar of a society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    comprised predominantly of LSIs
    For sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    I bet you anything that about 99% of all cults are lead by ILEs
    Want to find your perfect partner? Socionics can help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    comprised predominantly of LSIs
    For sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    I bet you anything that about 99% of all cults are lead by ILEs
    Want to find your perfect partner? Socionics can help!
    LOL!! That is hiliarious...should be moved to entp humor in the alpha thread.

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    That ENTp humor took me a while to catch, but it rocked.

    It's not necessarily something to be taken lightly, however. The Jungians have already been named a cult by a published author. I think there is little doubt that many people who are referred to socionics by enthusiasts think it somewhat obscure, even cult-like. And the Russians have a bad rep in the West science-wise. (a legacy of the Cold War)

    Furthermore, I find myself in the awkward position of questioning the worthiness of my own contribution when I mention socionics in my personality psychology class. Socionics has not proven itself as a valuable psychological tool, at least from the PoV of our current values system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg
    That ENTp humor took me a while to catch, but it rocked.

    It's not necessarily something to be taken lightly, however. The Jungians have already been named a cult by a published author. I think there is little doubt that many people who are referred to socionics by enthusiasts think it somewhat obscure, even cult-like. And the Russians have a bad rep in the West science-wise. (a legacy of the Cold War)
    Definitely. I still have e-mails from an MBTI mailing list that harshly criticized Socionics:

    When you say you want a proper analysis and logical deconstruction of
    "it," I presume you're referring to the Socionics theory. Although
    Aushra Augustinavichute claims to have based Socionics on Jung and
    Freud, it's little more than a rip-off of the 50 years of research
    that preceded her. She's offering nothing new, apart from a
    different notation that makes it confusing when trying to compare and
    contrast systems.
    On a more positive note, a German physicist said to me that Russian scientists are more interested in philosophical, metaphysical problems than your average scientist. I think that's a good thing.

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    O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another.

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    We are all brainwashed in different ways, accept this and move on.
    "Nothing happens until the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."

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