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    the hell if I know.
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    rofl. I thought you had finally figured it out!

    I know what you want! You want a good decent hug. A HUGE hug. Such a hug where you feel all warm and fuzzy and you forget all about your every-day problems and you just feel all sleepy and you feel like taking a nap because it's just so comfy and safe!
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    that hug does sound nice : P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    rofl. I thought you had finally figured it out!

    I know what you want! You want a good decent hug. A HUGE hug. Such a hug where you feel all warm and fuzzy and you forget all about your every-day problems and you just feel all sleepy and you feel like taking a nap because it's just so comfy and safe!
    acck. this is gamma forum. take that image somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    rofl. I thought you had finally figured it out!

    I know what you want! You want a good decent hug. A HUGE hug. Such a hug where you feel all warm and fuzzy and you forget all about your every-day problems and you just feel all sleepy and you feel like taking a nap because it's just so comfy and safe!
    acck. this is gamma forum. take that image somewhere else.
    someone needs a hug

    (sorry, I couldn't resist. lol).
    I have no desire to mock INTps. I was mostly going by the hidden agenda. And I think the need to feel safe near someone is a general victim (Gulenko) thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    rofl. I thought you had finally figured it out!
    Yeah sorta, but not really. For each thing I think I want that I categorize via , then takes over and thinks of a zillion possible effects of that and I never really come to a conclusion if it's a good thing to want or not. Just a bunch of "directions things could go". Then when I run out of ideas I stop, but never reach a conclusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    I know what you want! You want a good decent hug. A HUGE hug. Such a hug where you feel all warm and fuzzy and you forget all about your every-day problems and you just feel all sleepy and you feel like taking a nap because it's just so comfy and safe!


    I have no desire to mock INTps. I was mostly going by the hidden agenda. And I think the need to feel safe near someone is a general victim (Gulenko) thing.
    aaaahhhhhh..... and


    err, I think you have INTp's wrong then, but I'm not a very good example of an INTp. Go take your and and give it to mike_INTJ (or an ENTp).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    I was mostly going by the hidden agenda. And I think the need to feel safe near someone is a general victim (Gulenko) thing.
    yeah, i agree that this neither of these characteristics are very accurate towards their intended functions, let alone towards INTp. in particular the "need to feel safe near someone" sounds very un-victimlike, but rather infantile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    yeah, i agree that this neither of these characteristics are very accurate towards their intended functions, let alone towards INTp. in particular the "need to feel safe near someone" sounds very un-victimlike, but rather infantile.
    It turns out this comment was flawed.
    You seem to want to make every INTp into an INFj, CuriousSoul. How can you be so sure that you aren't an INTp yourself?

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    Edited for redundancy.

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    Edited for redundancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevENTj
    the hell if I know.
    Quite so. This sentence might actually describe the INTp desires quite accurately. Basically - the 'I want something...but I don't know what it is' attitude - could be best described by the word longing.

    Both from personal experience and from experience of others, I have observed that there is a selection of people for whom, literally, the world is not enough. They want something more, but have no idea what it should be. I guess it's related to Ni in combination with thinking preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus
    You seem to want to make every INTp into an INFj, CuriousSoul. How can you be so sure that you aren't an INTp yourself?
    No, I do know my type, and I do not want to go there now...
    Stops calling you INFJ.
    I guess it is a kind of Freudian slip, a a subconscious desire to be INTP.

    Anyway as Transigent pointed out Ne relies on subconsciousness to bring about associations. They can be right if they are backed up a large body of reliable knowledge, people typed correctly, socionics theory thoroughly internalized, years of experience etc. etc. When this is not the case, a heavy error rate and distortion of the data is the result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
    No, I do know my type, and I do not want to go there now...
    Stops calling you INFJ.
    The last time you suggested that I might be an INFj I checked the Reinin dichotomies and realized that INFjs and INTps coincide in many dimensions. And I am always interested in strong arguments. But you will never convince me by pointing out how I can be seen as an INFj. Your only chance to put some doubt in my mind is by pointing out things that contradict INTp. You have to show why my INTp claim is (or at least might be) falsified by empirical data, and it won't do to come up with the usual stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
    No, I do know my type, and I do not want to go there now...
    Stops calling you INFJ.
    The last time you suggested that I might be an INFj I checked the Reinin dichotomies and realized that INFjs and INTps coincide in many dimensions. And I am always interested in strong arguments. But you will never convince me by pointing out how I can be seen as an INFj. Your only chance to put some doubt in my mind is by pointing out things that contradict INTp. You have to show why my INTp claim is (or at least might be) falsified by empirical data, and it won't do to come up with the usual stuff.

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    INTps like correct apostrophes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    rofl. I thought you had finally figured it out!

    I know what you want! You want a good decent hug. A HUGE hug. Such a hug where you feel all warm and fuzzy and you forget all about your every-day problems and you just feel all sleepy and you feel like taking a nap because it's just so comfy and safe!
    Wow, I want one too!
    Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.

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    Well I want
    - to travel in time to my childhood and relive and change the past
    - to have magical powers to alter everything including my personality and memories (so if life seems unfair I can change it, and turn off memories if I get bored of reliving life too many times)
    - to have a beautiful girl in my life - or several - as long as they don't bother me too much
    - not to be depressed or impotent
    - or otherwise: oblivion (what unhealthy enneagram type 5's want)

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    I also want to understand know everything so that I can the maximum amount of control over things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClay
    I also want to understand/know as much as possible so I can maximize the amount of control I have over things.
    Sorry, I had to change what you originally wrote, I agree with my rewritten version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevENTj
    the hell if I know.
    They want to soak it up at a sweat lodge with hairy old men.
    "Nothing happens until the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."

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    Se Dual-Seeking: To be raped
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    Se Dual-Seeking: To be raped
    Interesting let's continue this.

    Si Dual-Seeking: To be drugged
    "Nothing happens until the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."

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    Sounds plenty fucking good to me
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    INTps want someone who wants something(INTps are the type least likely to have any material desires, but may have desires about a certain lifestyle or future for themselves). They want to find meaning in life, and make good, practical, and educated decisions. They want a reason to get up and achieve. This combined with their hidden agenda 'to love' makes them very active in a relationship, especially an Se-type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    INTps want someone who wants something(INTps are the type least likely to have any material desires, but may have desires about a certain lifestyle or future for themselves). They want to find meaning in life, and make good, practical, and educated decisions. They want a reason to get up and achieve. This combined with their hidden agenda 'to love' makes them very active in a relationship, especially an Se-type.
    holy crap, that's pretty good


    i'll have to elaborate more later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    (INTps are the type least likely to have any material desires
    Bullshit. They're Gammas, you tard. LIIs take this category ftw.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    (INTps are the type least likely to have any material desires
    Bullshit. They're Gammas, you tard. LIIs take this category ftw.
    I'm torn by this. When I sit down and think "what do I want to buy?" I usually come up blank. Pretty much the only time I buy anything is if I feel a powerful need. It's weird because I find or develop a "need" to spend money every couple months. This usually happens with technology, I just bought a new phone this week (Samsung t509, it's sweet) even though my old phone works perfectly fine and is only a year old. I constantly upgrade my computer and listening devices (tv tuner, new case, new cd deck for my car and new mp3 player within the last 4 months).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan

    Bullshit. They're Gammas, you tard. LIIs take this category ftw.
    hmm, for clarification: I mean they aren't desirous of a hot car. They are practical and realistic people, they probably want investments- a nice home, property, etc. But they don't freak out and buy the latest cell phone, car, etc etc. They don't feel special driving a giant Hummer the way an ESFp would. Anyway, Steve is a man who actually has dated real women and has a career, I think he could better illuminate this subject then a bunch of asshole teenagers who are still under their parent's wing. cough. tard.

    and by the way, I derived most of my imformation on the INTp/ESFp duality from Rick's Socionics Blog. He is great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    hmm, for clarification: I mean they aren't desirous of a hot car. They are practical and realistic people, they probably want investments- a nice home, property, etc. But they don't freak out and buy the latest cell phone, car, etc etc. They don't feel special driving a giant Hummer the way an ESFp would.
    I very much agree. Do you believe this is true of ENTjs as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan

    Bullshit. They're Gammas, you tard. LIIs take this category ftw.
    hmm, for clarification: I mean they aren't desirous of a hot car. They are practical and realistic people, they probably want investments- a nice home, property, etc. But they don't freak out and buy the latest cell phone, car, etc etc. They don't feel special driving a giant Hummer the way an ESFp would. Anyway, Steve is a man who actually has dated real women and has a career, I think he could better illuminate this subject then a bunch of asshole teenagers who are still under their parent's wing. cough. tard.

    and by the way, I derived most of my imformation on the INTp/ESFp duality from Rick's Socionics Blog. He is great.
    Now you're just splitting hairs. None of this shit is related to type.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    hmm, for clarification: I mean they aren't desirous of a hot car.
    My wife wants me to get a BMW but I'd rather get another Nissan even though we could easily afford the BMW.

    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    They are practical and realistic people, they probably want investments- a nice home, property, etc.
    Would rather take the money I don't spend on a pricey car that I woudlnt' appreciate anyways and dump it into exactly that.


    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    But they don't freak out and buy the latest cell phone, car, etc etc.
    Once upon a time I worked at a very well known "mobility" company and worked on cutting edge "mobile devices" with all the latest gadgets, cameras, streaming video, MP3, blah blah blah. And what kind of personal phone did I use while working at that job? An old-school NEXTEL design with no camera, no video, monochrome LCD screen, a big azz speaker, and a big azz battery. I loved it, but everybody looked at me sorta funny since it was so "low tech". But I had the last laugh because while their gadget clogged phones were always dropping calls due to all the junk stuffed in them, mine was clean as a whistle and could hold calls anywhere, LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    They don't feel special driving a giant Hummer the way an ESFp would.
    My wife is the trendy status conscious one among us, and she'd appreciate a luxury brand car 100x more than I ever could, so when the time comes to replace her car she can get something nice. This year I'll probably trade in my 8 year old 2 bodystyles out of date Nissan with 153k miles (250k km) for a new Nissan, even though I could afford something nicer. There's also a Mazda I like too. And the only reason I'm getting rid of it is because it's getting too old, has lots of little problems here and there, and I just don't have the time to give it the care it needs.

    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    Anyway, Steve is a man who actually has dated real women and has a career, I think he could better illuminate this subject then a bunch of asshole teenagers who are still under their parent's wing. cough. tard.
    Ti hacks drive me crazy. I wonder how Ti hacks perceive INTp's.

    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    and by the way, I derived most of my imformation on the INTp/ESFp duality from Rick's Socionics Blog. He is great.
    What you said made a lot of sense to me (far more sense than a lot of stuff I see on this site these days), so I'll definitely check that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevENTj
    Ti hacks drive me crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    hmm, for clarification: I mean they aren't desirous of a hot car. They are practical and realistic people, they probably want investments- a nice home, property, etc. But they don't freak out and buy the latest cell phone, car, etc etc. They don't feel special driving a giant Hummer the way an ESFp would.
    I very much agree. Do you believe this is true of ENTjs as well?
    I don't know about ENTjs. I really don't. I know ISFjs aren't as concerned with materials as ESFps. THe ENTj guy(he's older, 50+) I know is thematerial one in his relationship with his ISFj. He loves gadgets. Especially practical ones. He owns a mine in alaska though so he needs that sort of stuff to keep him busy. The ISFj just kind of sighs and laughs because she is getting a giant TV.
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    lol that's awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevENTj
    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    INTps want someone who wants something(INTps are the type least likely to have any material desires, but may have desires about a certain lifestyle or future for themselves). They want to find meaning in life, and make good, practical, and educated decisions. They want a reason to get up and achieve. This combined with their hidden agenda 'to love' makes them very active in a relationship, especially an Se-type.
    holy crap, that's pretty good


    i'll have to elaborate more later.
    I agree
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    What's Ti hacks?
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    wow that was really hard to watch.
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    It's an awkward scene, no doubt... but I would imagine most irl scenes like that with INTps would be quite awkward.
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