To Sereno, an add on to what Ryene wrote:
To be honest, I didn't get a negative vibe from what mikemex wrote. It seemed that he was merely attempting to use socionics to explain ENFps..after the fact. As in, awareness of what ENFps do, and then using socionics terms to try to explain it.
I also didn't see it as showing ENFps not having an "I can do anything" mentality. Anytime a type has to move out of their primary ego functions and utilize another function, they are having to expend more energy to utilize the other functions. The less familiar they are with using that skill/ability/information, the more energy it will require to use it. I think ANY type would find that sometimes it's best to just stop "wasting" energy and put their energy to better usage. However, that doesn't mean inability. Just weakness in that particular area. Most people do not want to feel weak. Many people do not have an interest in developing their weak areas. It requires a lot of energy to do so. There is nothing wrong with that.
I believe that ENFps DO believe in human potential. Also individual potential. But I believe that most enfps also know that not every individual will reach every potential. That some individuals have potential in areas that others don't. And that some individuals (including ourselves) would be better served delegating certain things to others who have a better potential of fulfilling that need than we would. There is nothing negative about this, imo.
Also, regarding the "negative nonsense". One thing to keep in mind is that supposedly, according to some aspects of socionics, ENFps are negativists, INFjs are positivists. I guess it's still open for grabs as to whether "negativist" means "downer", "critical", "can't", or 'noticing what's not there'. I personally believe that it's closer to noticing what's not there. But even this leaves a lot of room for …mmm.. expression? I mean, in terms of human potential it could be
* noticing what the person is unable to do
* noticing what the person is unwilling to do
* noticing what the person has difficulty doing
* noticing what the person lacks unwillingness to do (they may not WANT to do it, but they also may not NOT want to do it..they are more neutral towards it)
* noticing what the person doesn't lack difficulty doing (if given a choice between doing something I have difficulty with and asking someone who has less difficulty with it than me, depending on the degree of difference, I will most likely ask for help or delegate to that person) (and of course, if the person has NO difficulty with the thing, and perhaps even enjoys it, then definitely ask them for help or delegate to them)
* etc
(Note: It's also probably up for grabs as to whether the negativist/positivist thing would be better described as Ne-+Fi and Fi+-Ne for delta NFs)
(Note2: Regardless of the negativist/positivist thing, I still don't see it as being "negative" as in downer/weak to be aware of lack of potential or lack of potential fulfillment. In fact, I'd call it realistic.
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Originally Posted by anndelise
(Note2: Regardless of the negativist/positivist thing, I still don't see it as being "negative" as in downer/weak to be aware of lack of potential or lack of potential fulfillment. In fact, I'd call it realistic.So would I.
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function. I agree with you its probablly more to do with patience tho.
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on the super-ego functions....though i am very much aware of their presence in me
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