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    What do INFJ types respect in other people? How can you win their respect, love etc?
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    I can't speak for all INFjs, but I can tell you of myself.

    I respect...

    ...a sense of right and wrong, and strength of character to stand by those convictions. The person I admire most is one that will do what is right even when it is not advantageous, even when it costs, even when it hurts.

    ...a person who knows what they're doing (i.e. competence).

    ...someone who is humble enough to admit when they are wrong. And, along with that idea, someone who is more willing to work on their own faults than those of others.

    ...people who go through suffering and adversity with dignity and grace.

    ...commitment to a choice or a vow. Fortitude, perseverance, loyalty to one's word.

    ...honesty, sincerity.

    ...kindness, especially when it is given in return for unkindness.

    ...someone who searches for truth and doesn't rest until it's found.

    There's more, but that's good for now, I think.


    As far as love... I love both many and very few. I wish everyone well; there's no one I really hate. I have no enemies (that I know of - not counting those who hate me simply for my demographics), and while there are a few people that I don't like to be around, it's more because they tax my patience or pull me away from where I want to be than that I think them horrible people, or anything like that. And, yet, I'm truly devoted and connected to a relatively small number of people, comprising mostly of my family. That type of love is born more from commitment and trust. I would have to be very sure of someone to let them into my "inner circle," so to speak. Either that, or very deluded and distracted.
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    I'm not sure about other INFjs. Here's what I respect and/or love in people:

    -kindness and someone who forgives
    -sincerity
    -intelligent yet humble
    -friendliness
    -sensitive and caring
    -smiling
    -confident and not arrogant
    -someone who doesn't get into conflicts for the sake of arguing
    -good listener and doesn't talk too much
    -loving
    -people who love animals and children
    -people who are stable and secure
    -people who don't pressure me to do crazy things like bungee jumping or go for multiple roller coaster rides.
    -people who take good care of their image
    -patience

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    -someone who doesn't get into conflicts for the sake of arguing
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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    I'm not sure about other INFjs. Here's what I respect and/or love in people:

    -kindness and someone who forgives
    -sincerity
    -intelligent yet humble
    -friendliness
    -sensitive and caring
    -smiling
    -confident and not arrogant
    -someone who doesn't get into conflicts for the sake of arguing
    -good listener and doesn't talk too much
    -loving
    -people who love animals and children
    -people who are stable and secure
    -people who don't pressure me to do crazy things like bungee jumping or go for multiple roller coaster rides.
    -people who take good care of their image
    -patience
    Im not INFJ but I could agree with most of this list Ive lived long enough to know that I could love someone without some of these traits even though it would bug me a little. Nobody is perfect, certainly not me.
    I do like the emphasis that INFJs put on loyalty and goodness.

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    They seem very uptight to me. Just a random observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    I'm not sure about other INFjs. Here's what I respect and/or love in people:

    -kindness and someone who forgives
    -sincerity
    -intelligent yet humble
    -friendliness
    -sensitive and caring
    -smiling
    -confident and not arrogant
    -someone who doesn't get into conflicts for the sake of arguing
    -good listener and doesn't talk too much
    -loving
    -people who love animals and children
    -people who are stable and secure
    -people who don't pressure me to do crazy things like bungee jumping or go for multiple roller coaster rides.
    -people who take good care of their image
    -patience
    I agree with the rest although i'm not INFj, but I love coasters! And I'd wanna try bungee jumping one day. The thrill is amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129
    They seem very uptight to me. Just a random observation.
    Yeah, I was commented like that before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129
    They seem very uptight to me. Just a random observation.
    Yeah, I was commented like that before.
    Being uptight makes them fun to tease. They can be very gullible.
    @Mea, Yeah I like rollercoasters and adventure rides too. I dont know if I'll be jumping out of any airplanes but I might consider bungee jumping under very controlled conditions, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    Being uptight makes them fun to tease. They can be very gullible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enjio
    I almost went out with an INFJ once. She was pretty, but it seemed like she was lost in imagination all the time. It was a little weird
    I wouldn't go that route again. I tried it and it was a huge mistake. Talk about a HUGE gap in communication. Felt like I was talking to someone from another planet the whole time. I could never voice my opinion or say anything even remotely negative about that person without worrying they'd go hang themselves. I had to walk on eggshells the whole time. Not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topaz
    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129
    They seem very uptight to me. Just a random observation.
    Yeah, I was commented like that before.
    Being uptight makes them fun to tease. They can be very gullible.
    @Mea, Yeah I like rollercoasters and adventure rides too. I dont know if I'll be jumping out of any airplanes but I might consider bungee jumping under very controlled conditions, maybe.
    Actually, I don't mind rollercoasters, adventure rides and bungee jumping. Maybe not too many of them. :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129
    Quote Originally Posted by enjio
    I almost went out with an INFJ once. She was pretty, but it seemed like she was lost in imagination all the time. It was a little weird
    I wouldn't go that route again. I tried it and it was a huge mistake. Talk about a HUGE gap in communication. Felt like I was talking to someone from another planet the whole time. I could never voice my opinion or say anything even remotely negative about that person without worrying they'd go hang themselves. I had to walk on eggshells the whole time. Not for me.
    You have prolly met an unhealthy INFj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessica129
    Quote Originally Posted by enjio
    I almost went out with an INFJ once. She was pretty, but it seemed like she was lost in imagination all the time. It was a little weird
    I wouldn't go that route again. I tried it and it was a huge mistake. Talk about a HUGE gap in communication. Felt like I was talking to someone from another planet the whole time. I could never voice my opinion or say anything even remotely negative about that person without worrying they'd go hang themselves. I had to walk on eggshells the whole time. Not for me.
    That's weird. Those people you guys described sound more INFp IMO.

    @Topaz: Jumping off airplanes with sounds fun! (with a parachute of course) I'd love to try that. Hope I'll get to try it the next time I visit Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    @Topaz: Jumping off airplanes with sounds fun! (with a parachute of course) I'd love to try that. Hope I'll get to try it the next time I visit Australia.
    Me too. At least (or should I say most) once in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    @Topaz: Jumping off airplanes with sounds fun! (with a parachute of course) I'd love to try that. Hope I'll get to try it the next time I visit Australia.
    Me too. At least (or should I say most) once in my life.
    Yes~ Definitely. Anyway, if I die on the first attempt, I'll die happy.
    Maybe we could go together. :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by Mea
    @Topaz: Jumping off airplanes with sounds fun! (with a parachute of course) I'd love to try that. Hope I'll get to try it the next time I visit Australia.
    Me too. At least (or should I say most) once in my life.
    Yes~ Definitely. Anyway, if I die on the first attempt, I'll die happy.
    Maybe we could go together. :wink:
    youre a bit morbid. Did anyone ever tell you that?
    Nah, I can think of better ways of getting my jollies rather than throwing myself out of airplanes. Miniture golf anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde
    I can't speak for all INFjs, but I can tell you of myself.

    I respect...

    ...a sense of right and wrong, and strength of character to stand by those convictions. The person I admire most is one that will do what is right even when it is not advantageous, even when it costs, even when it hurts.

    ...a person who knows what they're doing (i.e. competence).

    ...someone who is humble enough to admit when they are wrong. And, along with that idea, someone who is more willing to work on their own faults than those of others.

    ...people who go through suffering and adversity with dignity and grace.

    ...commitment to a choice or a vow. Fortitude, perseverance, loyalty to one's word.

    ...honesty, sincerity.

    ...kindness, especially when it is given in return for unkindness.

    ...someone who searches for truth and doesn't rest until it's found.

    There's more, but that's good for now, I think.


    As far as love... I love both many and very few. I wish everyone well; there's no one I really hate. I have no enemies (that I know of - not counting those who hate me simply for my demographics), and while there are a few people that I don't like to be around, it's more because they tax my patience or pull me away from where I want to be than that I think them horrible people, or anything like that. And, yet, I'm truly devoted and connected to a relatively small number of people, comprising mostly of my family. That type of love is born more from commitment and trust. I would have to be very sure of someone to let them into my "inner circle," so to speak. Either that, or very deluded and distracted.
    Isn't FiNe INFp?
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    FiNe is INFj, and NiFe is INFp Ni and Ne are perceiving functions so if Ni comes first it's got a p on the end. Fi and Fe are judging functions so if Fi or Fe come first it's got a j on the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    FiNe is INFj, and NiFe is INFp Ni and Ne are perceiving functions so if Ni comes first it's got a p on the end. Fi and Fe are judging functions so if Fi or Fe come first it's got a j on the end.
    Good girl!

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    *grabs piece of paper and starts writing, before heading out to find unsuspecting INFj's*

    other than "-good listener and doesn't talk too much" I should be alright...lol I'd say I'm a good listener but around the right people I talk oodles (a lot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka
    *grabs piece of paper and starts writing, before heading out to find unsuspecting INFj's*

    other than "-good listener and doesn't talk too much" I should be alright...lol I'd say I'm a good listener but around the right people I talk oodles (a lot).
    Maybe we should start a thread on what ESTjs respect too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka
    *grabs piece of paper and starts writing, before heading out to find unsuspecting INFj's*

    other than "-good listener and doesn't talk too much" I should be alright...lol I'd say I'm a good listener but around the right people I talk oodles (a lot).
    Maybe we should start a thread on what ESTjs respect too.
    Yes! i totally agree! I'd be curious about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka
    *grabs piece of paper and starts writing, before heading out to find unsuspecting INFj's*

    other than "-good listener and doesn't talk too much" I should be alright...lol I'd say I'm a good listener but around the right people I talk oodles (a lot).
    Maybe we should start a thread on what ESTjs respect too.
    It'd probably be a waste of time... Just think of all the things that people are supposed to respect and that'll work...lol
    Well, that and of course, there'd only be one or two responses since there's soooo many estj's here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka
    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka
    *grabs piece of paper and starts writing, before heading out to find unsuspecting INFj's*

    other than "-good listener and doesn't talk too much" I should be alright...lol I'd say I'm a good listener but around the right people I talk oodles (a lot).
    Maybe we should start a thread on what ESTjs respect too.
    It'd probably be a waste of time... Just think of all the things that people are supposed to respect and that'll work...lol
    Well, that and of course, there'd only be one or two responses since there's soooo many estj's here...
    I'm pretty clueless about how my ESTj bf thinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    FiNe is INFj, and NiFe is INFp Ni and Ne are perceiving functions so if Ni comes first it's got a p on the end. Fi and Fe are judging functions so if Fi or Fe come first it's got a j on the end.
    Wait, no, that can't be right.

    http://www.bestfittype.com/cognitiveprocesses.html <-- Here's what I mean.
    This is a Jung site.

    If the first two functions are Ni, Si, Te, and Fe it has a J at the end.

    If the first two are Ne, Se, Fi, or Ti, then it has a P at the end.

    What you're thinking of is Jung's rational and irrational axii, but this is not set up to match with those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Quote Originally Posted by Esoteric Orange
    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    FiNe is INFj, and NiFe is INFp Ni and Ne are perceiving functions so if Ni comes first it's got a p on the end. Fi and Fe are judging functions so if Fi or Fe come first it's got a j on the end.
    Wait, no, that can't be right.

    http://www.bestfittype.com/cognitiveprocesses.html <-- Here's what I mean.
    This is a Jung site.

    If the first two functions are Ni, Si, Te, and Fe it has a J at the end.

    If the first two are Ne, Se, Fi, or Ti, then it has a P at the end.

    What you're thinking of is Jung's rational and irrational axii, but this is not set up to match with those.
    In socionics (this site here that we're on) it's like this:

    INFj = Fi Ne
    INFp= Ni Fe

    It might not be like that in other systems, but that's how it is in socionics.
    Go on google. If you look on the internet every INFP profile is revolved around FiNe and every INFJ profile is revolved around NiFe. To say that you are an INFj instead of INFP is only confusing.
    Instead of making INFj and INFJ two different types, refer only to your functions to keep from creating more confusion.

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    In Socionics, which is what this site is about, INFj is FiNe, and INFp is NiFe. MBTI and Socionics are obviously two different things. And I agree that use of the same letter system as MBTI is confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Quote Originally Posted by Inferior Fe
    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    In socionics (this site here that we're on) it's like this:

    INFj = Fi Ne
    INFp= Ni Fe

    It might not be like that in other systems, but that's how it is in socionics.
    Go on google. If you look on the internet every INFP profile is revolved around FiNe and every INFJ profile is revolved around NiFe. To say that you are an INFj instead of INFP is only confusing.
    Instead of making INFj and INFJ two different types, refer only to your functions to keep from creating more confusion.
    Like I already said, it's not like that in other systems (which is what you'll typically find when you google INFP - primarily MBTI sites). But, for socionics that's how it is INFp = Ni Fe, INFj = Fi Ne. Anyway, EO was asking the question of Minde because he saw that she had FiNe in her sig, and he mistakenly thought that meant she was INFP. I'm just trying to clear things up. Referring only to the functions (as her sig did) obviously did not help. Also, the functions are not always described the same way by different systems, etc. etc.
    Ick. That's certainly confusing. Every other profile description online is wrong then. :/

    So then apparently I'm not an INFj, but I'm an INFp?

    Socionics is kind of effed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    Like I already said, it's not like that in other systems (which is what you'll typically find when you google INFP - primarily MBTI sites). But, for socionics that's how it is INFp = Ni Fe, INFj = Fi Ne. Anyway, EO was asking the question of Minde because he saw that she had FiNe in her sig, and he mistakenly thought that meant she was INFP. I'm just trying to clear things up. Referring only to the functions (as her sig did) obviously did not help. Also, the functions are not always described the same way by different systems, etc. etc.
    Sorry for any confusion. But my signature doesn't have just the functions. I put "INFj" and "EII" in there, too. Maybe I should put something else in there, too, like "Static-Rational NF," or something like that. It all means the same thing anyway.

    And, EO, Diana and Slacker Mom are right. Socionics and MBTI are two different theories, thought they share some similarities. Trust us. On this forum, at least, FiNe means INFj. But, yes, it is very confusing at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esoteric Orange
    Ick. That's certainly confusing. Every other profile description online is wrong then. :/

    So then apparently I'm not an INFj, but I'm an INFp?

    Socionics is kind of effed.
    yes, it is confusing, until you begin to recognize the differences between the systems....then it's only half as confusing.

    socionics might refer to you as infp
    while mbti might refer to you as infj
    as far as some of us are concerned,
    irregardless of what socionics and mbti say,
    you are YOU
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    That is actually quite simple I think.

    I respect someone being genuine more than anything else. This world is so full of liars and people who wear personality masks in different situations (myself included, sometimes) that genuine people seem rarer and rarer these days and should be treasured all the more because of it. If you don't believe me, look at the media. Look how you too can have perfect abs, bigger breasts, a whiter smile etc ...

    I will let you in on a secret to INFJ's that I have discovered.

    Just. Be. Yourself. Do NOT try to win an INFJ's love by impressing them or changing to please them. Just be who you are and the INFJ will respect (and love) you more for it. I know I respect people who are just themselves around me and don't try to be something they are not. That's probably because I can spot a fake a mile away though. I see them all the time. Remember INFJ's see things about people that they try to keep hidden and we generally do so easily. So just be yourself and if you and the INFJ are compatible, things will happen. Just don't expect the INFJ to approach you. I approach people, but that's only because I get sick of being Mr Invisible all the time. I can't speak for all INFJ's but I think there is a definite sense we are underappreciated in the wider community. That's probably just because of those damn E's soaking up the limelight though. ;P

    Above all else. When interacting with an INFJ, just be yourself and they will love you for it.

    Zombie. Proud INFJ!

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