View Poll Results: what was Anne Frank's sociotype?

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  • ESE (ESFj)

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  • LII (INTj)

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  • SLE (ESTp)

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  • IEE (ENFp)

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  • SLI (ISTp)

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    Quotes:

    "Where there's hope, there's life. It fills us with fresh courage and makes us strong again."

    "People can tell you to keep your mouth shut, but that doesn't stop you from having your own opinion."

    "Although I'm only fourteen, I know quite well what I want, I know who is right and who is wrong. I have my opinions, my own ideas and principles, and although it may sound pretty mad from an adolescent, I feel more of a person than a child, I feel quite independent of anyone."

    "There's only one rule you need to remember: laugh at everything and forget everybody else! It sound egotistical, but it's actually the only cure for those suffering from self-pity."

    "Everyone has inside of him a piece of good news. The good news is that you don't know how great you can be! How much you can love! What you can accomplish! And what your potential is!"

    "It's difficult in times like these: ideals, dreams and cherished hopes rise within us, only to be crushed by grim reality. It's a wonder I haven't abandoned all my ideals, they seem so absurd and impractical. Yet I cling to them because I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."

    "I don't think of all the misery, but of the beauty that still remains."

    "I simply can't build my hopes on a foundation of confusion, misery and death... I think... peace and tranquillity will return again."

    "The weak die out and the strong will survive, and will live on forever."

    "I don't believe that the big men, the politicians and the capitalists alone are guilty of the war. Oh, no, the little man is just as keen, otherwise the people of the world would have risen in revolt long ago! There is an urge and rage in people to destroy, to kill, to murder, and until all mankind, without exception, undergoes a great change, wars will be waged, everything that has been built up, cultivated and grown, will be destroyed and disfigured, after which mankind will have to begin all over again."

    "Women should be respected as well! Generally speaking, men are held in great esteem in all parts of the world, so why shouldn't women have their share? Soldiers and war heroes are honored and commemorated, explorers are granted immortal fame, martyrs are revered, but how many people look upon women too as soldiers?...Women, who struggle and suffer pain to ensure the continuation of the human race, make much tougher and more courageous soldiers than all those big-mouthed freedom-fighting heroes put together!"

    "Anyhow, I've learned one thing now. You only really get to know people when you've had a jolly good row with them. Then and then only can you judge their true characters!"

    "I have one outstanding trait in my character, which must strike anyone who knows me for any length of time, and that is my knowledge of myself. I can watch myself and my actions, just like an outsider. The Anne of every day I can face entirely without prejudice, without making excuses for her, and watch what's good and what's bad about her. This 'self-consciousness' haunts me, and every time I open my mouth I know as soon as I've spoken whether 'that ought to have been different' or 'that was right as it was.' There are so many things about myself that I condemn; I couldn't begin to name them all. I understand more and more how true Daddy's words were when he said: 'All children must look after their own upbringing.' Parents can only give good advice or put them on the right paths, but the final forming of a person's character lies in their own hands."




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    ISTp? INTp?
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    I dunno. Her eyes look like my mom's when she was younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dioklecian
    ENTJ?
    I thought of Anne Frank as ENFP, but it is years since I read her diary...
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    She strikes me as an ILE, based on these photos and her wikipedia biography. IEE seems somewhat less likely.

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    EII-Ne e6

    +Fi idealism and humanistic high hopes embedded throughout her writing

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    Her diary is very, very Jane Eyre, by Charlotte Brontte; stream of consciousness stuff "what I should do, what I shouldn't do". Jane Eyre is the quintessential EII and has got to be Anne's identical if comparing information element Fi subject matter.

    Anne's diary is deeply introspective with her presuppositions of the beauty of the simplest human kindnesses. She takes flights of fancy, first conveying simplistic versions of the interpersonal realities while divulging the inner petty squabbles and dramas of her family in the attic, then just as suddenly elevates her gaze to the divine nature of human compassion. Not withstanding her mature condemnation of the acts of violence she catches brief glimpses of through the radio as the war unfolds, she is often just as quick to forgive the very people who are committing these acts of terror against her and her family. Anne seemed like an old soul in a young girls body, at once chastising herself for typical thoughts and behaviours, especially regarding her love interest (I think he name way peter, or maybe Jon, or maybe something german I can't remember), and asking her Diary friend for atonement. The endless self improvement makes her story all the more tragic, because ultimately none of her faults compare to what mankind if really capable of. I pretty sure she is EII, at least thats how I understand that sociotype.

    On a less serious note, she does kind of write like Radio might if he was a jewish girl locked in an attic during the holocaust. Little cute Ne observances interspersed with profound revelations. Then random self-abasements for not completing chores, instead of procrastinating in a diary.
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    she does VI a bit like Maritsa. and Jeff Mangum (Ne-EII) wrote an album about her and stuff. so it checks out.
    i still think, however, Ne-IEE > Ne-EII.

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    I agree with EII for Anne Frank and ESI for Radio (he ain't a positivist type, nope). Sorry for going on a tangent I happened to see. And for placing him after her, sigh.

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    Is it coincidental I decided to read her diary again just hours before this thread is revived, looked at this thread, and guessed EII? It is, but it's nice to think otherwise.

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    she VI'd as an IEE when i saw a documentary on tv, though i can see ILE too for her...

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