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Thread: Phillip McGraw (Dr Phil)

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    I see Rick has typed him as LSI/ISTj on his site, my version is ESI/ISFj.



    The impression I get of him from watching his show - somewhat reserved, tough, strict, realistic, prefers planning, values clear rules. He also has a sensitive, soft, a bit shy and childish side of him that he doesn’t like to show often, and that’s what makes me think that he might be an ESI/ISFj. One can easily mistake ISFj sensory subtype for ISTj (and vice versa). ISFjs often let their role cover the in a way that it can appear as the first function (at least for some time).





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    Why so many people don't like him I'll never really understand.

    The most embarassing thing about the situtation is that Americans are so stupid that they need someone like that to actually see their problems. I like how he says "I like to think I deal not with problems, but solutions", etc.

    Maybe ISFj, because..... well, he enjoys running a daytime show, and his wife seems to be somewhat T... perhaps.

    What about ESTj?
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    entj probably... if not entp. reminds me of bill o'reilly for some reason
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    Never seen him, but in that photo he sorta looks ENTj.

    And while this is most likely completely unrelated, I don't know why... but Peter has said, "Thank, Dr. Phil" to me on numerous occasions.
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    "Anger is nothing more than an outward expression of hurt, fear and frustration."

    "Willpower is a myth. The problem with trying to use willpower to achieve and sustain a behavioral change is that it is fueled by emotion. And as we all know, our emotions are, at best, fickle. They come and go. When your emotions start running down -- and they will -- even your best-laid plans will fall flat."

    "Awareness without action is worthless."

    "Failure is no accident."

    "Get up each morning, look at yourself in the mirror, and see yourself not as someone who is overweight or out of shape, but as the someone you will become."

    "If you want more, you have to require more from yourself."

    "It's better to be healthy alone than sick with someone else."

    "Life is a marathon, it's not a sprint."

    "Sometimes you just got to give yourself what you wish someone else would give you."

    "Sometimes you make the right decision, sometimes you make the decision right."

    "The most you get is what you ask for."

    "The quickest way from A to B is not always at the most feverish pace."

    "We teach people how to treat us." ( I swear I didn't hear that from anyone else before I started saying it, or at least not that I remember)

    "You cannot be who and what you are unless you have a lifestyle, both internally and externally, that is designed to support that definition of self."

    "You have the duty and gift of living. You don't have the right to sit on the sidelines--use your life and get back into the game."

    "You need to listen to your body because your body is listening to you."

    "You're only lonely if you're not there for you."

    "Success means different things in different parts of my life, but overall if I have to define ultimately what success means.. the bottom line.. then for me itís if the family is healthy and happy. "

    "You can't change what you don't acknowledge."


    Yeah.... Gamma without a doubt. Lol most of that is the exact same kinda shit I say.

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    See, usual problem, same stuff as the rich dad, poor dad guy. I don't need to be motivated or talked about stuff, I'm not some kind of fool really. They should let me decide everything by just providing me the facts and not saying bullcrap like that.
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    they're not having a conversation with you lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    they're not having a conversation with you lol
    With everybody, and I'm included in the group, Joy. Obviously.
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    ENFJ. One of the reasons my mother likes him so much
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    I don't know what type he is but almost every one of those quotes Joy listed makes me the guy's annoying as hell and probably a wife beater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    I don't know what type he is but almost every one of those quotes Joy listed makes me the guy's annoying as hell and probably a wife beater
    I'm not sure about that, but those quotes do sound stupid. No offense, Joy. But really, it sounds like inspirational cliches that sound good but are sort of empty.
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    I can see why someone would think that. I don't really see it is "inspiration" though... just attempts to get people to take responsibility for their lives.
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    I don't know the guy just makes me cringe every time he says something... in all honesty it's probably because most of what he says is true and probably applies to me

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    Ookey, ENTj is possible, I don't disagree, although I wouldn't excude ESTj.
    But... if he's an ENTj I don't understand one thing:

    His technique, which differs considerably from traditional psychology, has been criticized by those inside and outside the profession, but he maintains a loyal fan base and there appears to be a market for his brand of self-help. McGraw never liked traditional counseling, and was awkward in one on one situations.[5] McGraw, like Dr. Laura, does not emphasize discovering the cause of emotional distress earlier in life, and instead focuses on behavior modification therapy ó that is, changing a behavior without necessarily investing time in discovering the cause of an unwanted behavior. Contrary to this is Dr. McGraw's numerous statements of "we need to get to the root of the problem" during his shows.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_McGraw

    Wouldn't this approach be characteristic for sensory types who prefer to deal with things "right here and now" without thinking much about (the causes in) the past?
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    I've always liked Dr. Phil for some reason ..
    I really admire him and think that most of the time, his advice is really good. I agree with a lot of what he says on his shows.
    And it just entertains me.


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    I thought he was ESTj. Maybe because his "I know better than you and I get to tell you that"-vibe reminds me of delta. Also, he looks ESTj IMO. I'm pretty sure he had a habit of saying something like, "Start acting like adults! *audience is clapping* This is what I tell you. Start acting like adults and stop making the same mistake over and over again. *louder clapping* Stop acting like children and start acting like adults!" ...which reminds me that he also had a habit of repeating what he says. ESTj!

    It's a good show, but I mostly like it because it lets me see how others live. It's got gossip value if I may say so. His advice is sometimes very good, but it's often kinda obvious or just silly (depending on the situation).
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    I always thought most of the things he says are quite obvious... then again I've never really been in any bad situations, so I wouldn't know. I'm sure his views are helpful to a lot of people.

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    Again, I've never seen him... but every single thing I've read in this thread strongly indicates Resolute > Reasonable.

    I'd say it's between ENTj and ESFp for him (again, based solely on what I've read in this thread).
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    What I don't like about Dr. Phil is that he is completely inflexible. He gets an idea in his head and there's no moving him. No evidence, no discussion, nothing could ever make him change his mind, no matter how obvious it becomes that he's flat-out wrong.

    And he's a bit of a bully with his advice IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    What I don't like about Dr. Phil is that he is completely inflexible. He gets an idea in his head and there's no moving him. No evidence, no discussion, nothing could ever make him change his mind, no matter how obvious it becomes that he's flat-out wrong.

    And he's a bit of a bully with his advice IMO.
    IMO, the fact that an ENFp sees him like is strong evidence of what I was saying.

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    If you've ever seen the people he finds on his show... they're mostly overgrown six-year-olds who have managed to prolong playground politics well into adulthood. Things that seem like obvious, empty tidbits to us intelligent, mature folks, suddenly seem like the voice of sweet reason in that setting. Like any good counselor, he tends to remain aloof and satisfied in the knowledge that his producers have selected people who always lag at least several I.Q. points behind him.
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    Te dominant; that's for damn sure. I'm leaning ENTj. Dude pisses me off to no end.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
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    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!



    Say it with me, now...

    E..
    N...
    T...
    J!
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!



    Say it with me, now...

    E..
    N...
    T...
    J!
    lol.

    why not ESTj?
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    Ok, so ESTj is possible. But the smile...it's so...I dunn
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    Ok, so ESTj is possible. But the smile...it's so...I dunn
    so in need of a fist?

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    gut reaction is entj. they guy's a total salesman. pitching tv talk show self help and publicizing his books. not to mention match.com. just take a look at that shit eating smile! hahaha

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    ENTJ or ESFP IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan
    Ok, so ESTj is possible. But the smile...it's so...I dunn
    so in need of a fist?
    Precisely.

    And, therefore, so typically ENTj
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    His advice-giving style really reminds me of my ENTj mom. ESTjs don't strike me that negatively.
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    ENFj I'd say

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    He is quite clearly Resolute > Reasonable... that is why he is not ESTj.
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    Is he anything like Bill O'Reilly?
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    they do both annoy me in similar ways... although OReilly, as much as I hate him, can be entertaining at times.

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    luckily (apparently), I have never seen Dr. Phil and have seen little of Bill O'Reilly... but it sounds like most of the people here respond to them similarly to how they respond to me
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    Calling them on their bullshit? In that sense, yeah, pretty much

    I LOVE YOU JOY and you know it
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    lol where's mustachio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    luckily (apparently), I have never seen Dr. Phil and have seen little of Bill O'Reilly... but it sounds like most of the people here respond to them similarly to how they respond to me
    Wait, are you trying to mean it in a good way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    What I don't like about Dr. Phil is that he is completely inflexible. He gets an idea in his head and there's no moving him. No evidence, no discussion, nothing could ever make him change his mind, no matter how obvious it becomes that he's flat-out wrong.

    And he's a bit of a bully with his advice IMO.
    IMO, the fact that an ENFp sees him like is strong evidence of what I was saying.

    Se > Si
    Yes Se>Si and resolute > reasonable is the first thing that comes to my mind when I see Dr. Phil in action. This inflexibility and stubborness is one of the reasons why I can see him as ISFj, ENTjs, in my opinion, donít make that impression or at least I donít see them as such. And he lacks the open-heartedness thatís characteristic to ESFps. Although ESFps can act that way, I doubt they would impose their views in a so intrusive manner. I havenít seen the show for a long time, but these were the traits I found annoying, too.
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    C'mon, ENTjs aren't that inflexible at all. He's a clear cut ISTj.
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