His Dark Materials

[Gilly]

Lyra: ENTp logical
Pantalaimon: ISFp ethical
Will Parry: ENFp intuitive
Lord Asriel: ISTp logical
Miss Coulter: ESFj ethical
Iorek Byrnison: ISTp sensory
John Faa: ESTj sensory
Lee Scoresby: ESFj sensory
Farder Coram: IxFj ethical
Mary Malone: INxj intuitive
Iofur Raknison: ESTp sensory
Master: INxj intuitive

Panserbjorne: Gamma
Jordan College: Alpha
Gyptians: Delta
Witches: Alpha

[oyburger]

What show is this?

Or books I guess

[ILENTp]

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[Gilly]

Nah. If you read the books, you'll see that she has

1) Weak - a poor estimation of physical danger and her means to deal with it
2) Strong -an EXCELLENT understanding of symbology and the "essences" of things (reading the aletheometer? Hello?)
3) Weak - She's pretty blunt and doesn't really seem to let anyone get too close to her
4) EP Temperment - risk taker, irrational, hot tempered

[aestrivex]

best trilogy ever.

i haven't read it in several years (and furthermore, i read it before i became interested in socionics), so i don't remember it too well.

[Not A Communist Shill]

I would have thought Will was more ISTp? Maybe I'm very wrong about this?

I loved the books until I read the ending - it was unneccessary IMO having a book attacking religion when being set in an unrealistic universe which has no ultimate happy ending for the main characters . It was like an universe better than ours but without the hope - i.e. not better at all. It will just give kids a pessimistic view of the world .

[aestrivex]

I would have thought Will was more ISTp? Maybe I'm very wrong about this?

I loved the books until I read the ending - it was unneccessary IMO having a book attacking religion when being set in an unrealistic universe which has no ultimate happy ending for the main characters . It was like an universe better than ours but without the hope - i.e. not better at all. It will just give kids a pessimistic view of the world .

what an outrage... pessimistic, anti-religious books should be outlawed...

[Gilly]

I would have thought Will was more ISTp? Maybe I'm very wrong about this?

I loved the books until I read the ending - it was unneccessary IMO having a book attacking religion when being set in an unrealistic universe which has no ultimate happy ending for the main characters . It was like an universe better than ours but without the hope - i.e. not better at all. It will just give kids a pessimistic view of the world .

what an outrage... pessimistic, anti-religious books should be outlawed...

Let's stop this before it gets started. Don't even go there, either of you.

[aestrivex]

you are not a moderator. do not try to suppress us arbitrarily.

[Gilly]

I have a pretty good nose for these things; I start them a LOT. And I don't want my thread going to shit. Now talk about the books, or shut the hell up.

[aestrivex]

as of yet, we haven't done anything other than talk about the books. i would say that the slight digression made still falls under this category.

[Not A Communist Shill]

What about:
Serafina Pekkala and
Roger? ISFp?

I'm not sure about Mrs Coulter being ESFj...couldn't she be ENFp or something else?

[Gilly]

as of yet, we haven't done anything other than talk about the books. i would say that the slight digression made still falls under this category.

It was about to digress, and you know that. Don't play dumb; just stop.

I don't think Roger has enough time as an active character to be typed. Serafina could be ISFp.

[ScarlettLux]

Lyra as an ENTp? Hey, it actually makes sense, never thought of it before.

I <3 HDM trilogy... absolutely adore. I was in tears at the end of Amber Spyglass.. literally. It has been the only book to ever move me in that way.

I do believe Lyra + Will are Duals? Or at least Semi-Duals... That would make Will an ISFp or ISTp... he is NO ENFp to me. Think about it ... what makes you say he's ENFp? =/ None of the attitudes or actions that an ENFp would normally do. He has a talent for hiding in the shadows and PREFERS to be in the shadows, without people noticing/bothering him. And he seems much more "grounded" and Si to me than all over the place Ne.

I've always placed Lyra as an ESTp or ENFp. I agree with the fact that their daemons should be their Duals and Pantalaimon seems.. ISFp I suppose. I actually thought he seemed ISTj ... very dutiful and cautious, wary, telling her not to get into trouble all the time.

[Gilly]

I think the conflict surrounding the Panserbjorne is a good example of what happens when two "leaders" emerge who are both of Quadras adjacent to the Quadra of the group they wish to lead, but are of opposite quadras.

[ILENTp]

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[FDG]

1) Weak - a poor estimation of physical danger and her means to deal with it

I've never quite understood this part of Se. Se-types I've met have all been more risktaking than I am. Gambling, law-breaking etc.. Since Ne makes you aware of possible outcomes of an action I am aware of all the things that could go wrong.

I am most definitely aware of things that can go wrong: I just choose to ignore them. Also, things sometimes CAN go wrong, but for a number of reasons there are certain moments in time in which things are less likely to go wrong than normal.

[Gilly]

Lyra is a really interesting character, actually: she shows lots of the stereotypical signs of , but shows all of the REAL type-spotting traits of .