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    Default Star Trek: type Clingons & Vulcans

    What is their type? They pretty much have a general persona, it seems.

    Worf seems pretty much the same, as he is Clingon... but if you have other speculations, share it.
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    at the risk of displaying my full geekiness...

    it's Klingon not clingon you fool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
    it's Klingon not clingon you fool!
    Yeah, exactly. But you should shout it: IT'S FUCKING KLINGON, WITH KEY NOT C!!!
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    christ these people need girlfriends BAD!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Klingons

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    they're kinda different. worf is very different from the other klingons because he is the only one in starfleet. other klingons are like "dude wtfxup with that" sort of....but more mean. and worf's woman, she is a lot different, but one of her parents was human, her mother i think.

    um.....estp? im not interested in them at all though. they lack tact which is anti-estp (most anyways) so i dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by science as magic
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    explain where/why the klingons are "caregiving" types. god, i hope that was sarcasm!

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    I always thought klingon's were more a representation of a historical Earth society than a contemporary group of people(Socionics quadras). I don't know what society they represent, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    I always thought klingon's were more a representation of a historical Earth society than a contemporary group of people(Socionics quadras). I don't know what society they represent, though.

    hmm....vikings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heath
    I always thought klingon's were more a representation of a historical Earth society than a contemporary group of people(Socionics quadras). I don't know what society they represent, though.
    In the original series, they were representative of the Communists. Not sure what society they would be now.
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    What about the vulcans? They're the most attractive, imo (aside from having a lifespan much longer than mine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    explain where/why the klingons are "caregiving" types. god, i hope that was sarcasm!
    explain why esfjs must be caregiving?

    vulcans are a society devoted to . they tend to be ixtj but are almost completely full on ixxj

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    ESFj is a completely misguided answer. beta STs are perfect stereotypes for klingons.

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    oh please, klingons are known for their passionate outbursts and such which is not a characteristic of but rather its opposite

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    yes...

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    SFs in general are known for being more prone to violence etc and estps are hardly the sort to base their society around "honor"

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17
    yes...
    exactly.

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    types are not that ritualistic they're too flighty

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    not really true... beta types possess all of the characteristics you are downplaying.

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    BETA yes any individual type within beta no

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    does a type not reflect its own quadra to some extent?

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    is a car wheels or a human being an arm? wholes =! parts

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    wholes != parts

    wholes = (4parts/(√3))^(K^2) where K= landau-ramanujan constant.

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    i meant parts =! wholes excuse my dyslexic attributes

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    Makes me think of Sj... and beta fits somewhat.

    So I guess I'll say

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    That is what I said on the first post of this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    What about the vulcans? They're the most attractive, imo (aside from having a lifespan much longer than mine).
    I don't think they represent a quadra. If we work on the logic that the species of Star Trek represent historical societies I'd suppose that the Vulcans represent the society to come, and by this I mean humans of the future. Anybody else pumped for your grandchildren's great grandchildren's children?

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    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diana
    I used to say that I was going to be Spock, or at least a vulcan when I grew up. I guess I still could.
    Yeah I don't even know why you responded-- you could have been becoming a Vulcan that whole time.

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    isfj
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by science as magic
    vulcans are a society devoted to . they tend to be ixtj but are almost completely full on ixxj
    I fully agree, and as far as IXTj is concerned, clearly more ISTj than INTj.


    Quote Originally Posted by xiuxiu
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    Yes that makes the most sense for Klingons IMO.
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    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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    HOW IN THE FUCK ARE THEY INTROVERTS? ajsdgja

    don't dare question my knowledge of fictional creatures from outer space again!

    (don't take me seriously, i beg of u)

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    Quote Originally Posted by science as magic
    HOW IN THE FUCK ARE THEY INTROVERTS? ajsdgja

    don't dare question my knowledge of fictional creatures from outer space again!

    (don't take me seriously, i beg of u)

    yeah i guess they are kind of introverts....didn't think of that. but arn't we exitting the realm of socionics when we say that?

    klingons main features (from my perspective)

    loyal to race
    savage lovers
    stubborn
    warriors


    can't think of anymore now right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    Yes that makes the most sense for Klingons IMO.
    That was my second guess....

    Because it all based on "tradition", not necessarily logic, or . It is more about loyalty, what "Klingon's do", as opposed to "what is the most logical approach".


    Maybe ISFj is the better choice.
    I can also see how SAM said ESFj.... but .... they don't seem very alpha, or emotionally bubbly. Which is why I went for ISTj, or the Ij personality.

    Maybe ISTj anyways, as the is based off of the traditional way.... yeah, I know an ISTj bible pounder who is pretty much like Worf ...... hmmm... Oh well.
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    what udp said. rigid traditional values centered around loyalty (or at least an adherent, more or less static moral system. clearly fi.), ably defended and/or communicated at a moment's notice by se.
    lol

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    uh... how exactly to vulcans value Fe? They're my favorite because they don't.
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    Yeah, you would think it would be clear that vulcans pride themselves in being control of their emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    uh... how exactly to vulcans value Fe? They're my favorite because they don't.
    Well, a few points --

    1) Vulcans fit IJ best and then IXTj as Pedro said, and then ISTj IMO. Perhaps they don't fit perfectly in common perceptions of IXTj, but where would they fit better?

    2) They certainly don't value Fe in terms of outward expression of emotion in an stereotypical EXFj manner, or of calling attention to what they are feeling, but their society is also based on proper social behavior (where it is precisely the display of emotions that is the ultimate faux pas) including those silly rituals. That can also be seen as Fe.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by implied
    gah you're like the shittiest ENTj ever!

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