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    Clearly Se valuing. My initial thought was SLE > LIE. However, this video makes me seriously consider ILI despite his abundance of Se. He seems to fit the "critic" label almost perfectly, not having a stake in the actions of those around him but pointing out the inconsistencies and hypocrisies of their words in comparison to their actions. He has a small number of principles by which he lives, but he doesn't treat them as axioms, rather more like truths he's observed by seeing people's motivations very clearly.

    The video goes into more detail, so I won't repeat it. If you're skeptical, I strongly recommend it, as it presents a number of points that lead me to consider ILI. It's not about socionics, though. Spoiler warning for FMAB.



    I should mention that this is by no means a comprehensive analysis of his type. It's just an idea that I think holds some water. Feel free to criticize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarDraft View Post
    Clearly Se valuing. My initial thought was SLE > LIE. However, this video makes me seriously consider ILI despite his abundance of Se. He seems to fit the "critic" label almost perfectly, not having a stake in the actions of those around him but pointing out the inconsistencies and hypocrisies of their words in comparison to their actions. He has a small number of principles by which he lives, but he doesn't treat them as axioms, rather more like truths he's observed by seeing people's motivations very clearly.

    The video goes into more detail, so I won't repeat it. If you're skeptical, I strongly recommend it, as it presents a number of points that lead me to consider ILI. It's not about socionics, though. Spoiler warning for FMAB.



    I should mention that this is by no means a comprehensive analysis of his type. It's just an idea that I think holds some water. Feel free to criticize it.
    It may interest you to know that Gulenko sees a certain similarity between Semi-Duals like SLE and ILI! So it could make sense that a more aggressive ILI would have some SLE characteristics.

    Here is the paper: https://translate.google.com/transla...00190,15700201

    Specifically, this part is interesting:

    2. Managerial bias.

    The seeker seeks for a comfortable, independent work with a tangible result, is engaged in repair and promotional activities as a master.

    The critic in the working mode, being the chief, sometimes controls rigidly, authoritarianly, removes the disagreeable and disobedient, which demonstrates a shift towards the Marshal.

    Enthusiast feels certain managerial abilities, seeks to observe justice, to control the actions of others as an Inspector.

    The keeper in the work moves to the administrative side - he works hard, takes care of his subordinates, worries about deadlines. His behavior resembles the style of the Administrator.


    Also, I would add, from this article: https://socioniks.net/article/?id=267

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varlawend View Post
    It may interest you to know that Gulenko sees a certain similarity between Semi-Duals like SLE and ILI! So it could make sense that a more aggressive ILI would have some SLE characteristics.

    Here is the paper: https://translate.google.com/transla...00190,15700201

    Specifically, this part is interesting:





    Also, I would add, from this article: https://socioniks.net/article/?id=267
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    That's interesting. I've also heard that benefit types can look alike from a member on this forum, though I haven't been able to find a source to substantiate that claim.
    Do you mind linking the specific article in which the idea that semi-duals are similar is written? What you have linked right now leads to a google translate article about Gulenko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarDraft View Post
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    That's interesting. I've also heard that benefit types can look alike from a member on this forum, though I haven't been able to find a source to substantiate that claim.
    Do you mind linking the specific article in which the idea that semi-duals are similar is written? What you have linked right now leads to a google translate article about Gulenko.
    Ah, my apologies, I thought I linked the article: http://www.socioniko.net/ru/articles/thes02.html

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    SLEs have leading Se and demonstrative Te, so they can easily be devil-may-care opportunists. Kimblee is relatively consistent as an SLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    SLEs have leading Se and demonstrative Te, so they can easily be devil-may-care opportunists. Kimblee is relatively consistent as an SLE.
    Absolutely not.

    If you had actually read the most recent Gulenko theory, then you would know that people like Kimblee who have two subtypes can transform at will into their Semi-Dual. That proves ILI beyond a shadow of doubt. He’s close to reaching a total of three subtypes, but he hasn’t quite made it yet; that would allow him access to the fifth dimension of the communicative space in which he could change his type at will.

    What’s especially tricky about this guy is that he has a very strange Keirsey-Nardi type which avails him a new information aspect, Aether. You can read whisperings about it here: http://socionist.blogspot.com/2017/0...ction.html?m=1

    It is also mentioned in Jung’s writings on Active Imagination, and the integrative faculty of fantasy which makes up the very fabric of our dreams and visions emanating from the seat of the soul. The threat posed by such people cannot be overstated; they may claw at the deepest recesses of our soul even through the fantasy genre, like the Fanged Noumena of the collective unconscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varlawend View Post
    Absolutely not.

    If you had actually read the most recent Gulenko theory, then you would know that people like Kimblee who have two subtypes can transform at will into their Semi-Dual. That proves ILI beyond a shadow of doubt. He’s close to reaching a total of three subtypes, but he hasn’t quite made it yet; that would allow him access to the fifth dimension of the communicative space in which he could change his type at will.

    What’s especially tricky about this guy is that he has a very strange Keirsey-Nardi type which avails him a new information aspect, Aether. You can read whisperings about it here: http://socionist.blogspot.com/2017/0...ction.html?m=1

    It is also mentioned in Jung’s writings on Active Imagination, and the integrative faculty of fantasy which makes up the very fabric of our dreams and visions emanating from the seat of the soul. The threat posed by such people cannot be overstated; they may claw at the deepest recesses of our soul even through the fantasy genre, like the Fanged Noumena of the collective unconscious.
    I saw that awhile ago on Rick's blog and thought it was satire or something since I couldn't find any other reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I saw that awhile ago on Rick's blog and thought it was satire or something since I couldn't find any other reference.
    It is both satire and reality, so your impressions were not inaccurate. Satire can be strange this way, tapping into unconscious elements that people can't approach through straight language for all manner of reasons. Comedy has a similar function. One can learn more about the function from other sources:

    http://jungiancenter.org/wp/jung-on-...dent-function/

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003DM3QSA/

    In the reviews of this book, there is some interesting controversy:

    Definitely worth reading, as long as we realize that not one of the ideas under discussion actually derive from Jung's mind.

    As Lucy Huskinson devastatingly reveals in her book "Nietzsche and Jung," Jung's debt to Nietzsche was not acknowledged by Jung. Great as he was in his own area, there is not a major idea to be found in Jung's corpus that originated with him. It was all there in the work of predecessors, not only Nietzsche, but Schopenhauer, Hegel, and in particular Schelling and Blake. The last two thinkers are never referred to by Jung, yet it is their ideas that he cut and pasted into his own work.

    ...
    Whether any of that is true, I cannot say. Dark characters like Kimblee, however, certainly tap into areas of the mind that most forbid themselves from peering into. Maybe this is for good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varlawend View Post
    Absolutely not.

    If you had actually read the most recent Gulenko theory, then you would know that people like Kimblee who have two subtypes can transform at will into their Semi-Dual. That proves ILI beyond a shadow of doubt. He’s close to reaching a total of three subtypes, but he hasn’t quite made it yet; that would allow him access to the fifth dimension of the communicative space in which he could change his type at will.

    What’s especially tricky about this guy is that he has a very strange Keirsey-Nardi type which avails him a new information aspect, Aether. You can read whisperings about it here: http://socionist.blogspot.com/2017/0...ction.html?m=1

    It is also mentioned in Jung’s writings on Active Imagination, and the integrative faculty of fantasy which makes up the very fabric of our dreams and visions emanating from the seat of the soul. The threat posed by such people cannot be overstated; they may claw at the deepest recesses of our soul even through the fantasy genre, like the Fanged Noumena of the collective unconscious.
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