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    Default ESFp married to ESTj (SEE-LSE benefit)

    Busy SEE momma married to an LSE and talks as well as has energy of 50 of me

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PnFHUS0fW3U
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    Here’s a more anamated video of hers

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEt002y6sgI&t=36s
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Costco lifestyles I associate with Deltas typically. She is EII....imo.

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    She’s too outgoing and too talkative to be EIi
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    Costco lifestyles I associate with Deltas typically. She is EII....imo.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    She’s too outgoing and too talkative to be EIi
    Could she be a very Ne-EII? Something about it feels like acting for the camera and not natural SEE exuberance. My EII brother is married to an identical who has kind of a wacky wild side she puts on sometimes that reminds me of this lady. That said, not sure. But I have to agree the Costco lifestyle thing smacks of Delta. Interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsTortilla View Post
    Could she be a very Ne-EII? Something about it feels like acting for the camera and not natural SEE exuberance. My EII brother is married to an identical who has kind of a wacky wild side she puts on sometimes that reminds me of this lady. That said, not sure. But I have to agree the Costco lifestyle thing smacks of Delta. Interesting...
    No she’s way too Se she is all about fun experience and she talks a lot
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    No she’s way too Se she is all about fun experience and she talks a lot
    I still feel a lot of it is forced and doesn’t feel natural.

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    Ugh, everything done in front of just camera is simply forced. It is not natural way of interacting or talking by any means.

    Anyways, she seems very extrovert. At times I might even think of LSE but SEE seems to be the type.
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    Ok, so I watched some videos. I think she could be EIE or ESE

    Husband could be LSI
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    Benefit relation in this case: economical unity.



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    They could both be LSE...

    Anyway, a nice example of Dominant+Normalizing
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Her emotions seem to run very wild. It has no valued quality. This is a counterpoint to any Fe ego. Could be demonstrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Benefit relation in this case: economical unity.



    What ever makes them happy
    Great video find!
    Yes they are relationship of economy and not sure how they are happy. Maybe he needed a wife and she was around. You can see in other videos how most tasks fall on her.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    She seems afraid of him

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    Woman seems weird
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    I find that he gets annoyed of her especially when she attempts to make him look like less of a person or less honorable and worthy
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    She seems afraid of him
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Ugh, everything done in front of just camera is simply forced. It is not natural way of interacting or talking by any means.

    Anyways, she seems very extrovert. At times I might even think of LSE but SEE seems to be the type.
    Gonna have to agree with that. Once you know, absolutely, that the cameras are indeed rolling with you yourself as the focus the whole situation changes. It's "forced" because, well, our society has come to trust artificial recordings over our own gosh darn "lying" eyes! The "electric eye" is seen as more reliable than our own senses in a court of law. Truly a bizare situation IMO, where very easily altered circuits and files are trusted more than our own senses that literally kept us all alive since the caveman days...

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    For some reason in that last video it is much more obvious to me she is SEE.

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    Default SEe and looking at behaviors of others

    What causes SEE to look and size up other people’s attitudes and behaviors of others especially where they judge these to be “appropriate and inappropriate “

    Is this related to Gamma?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    “SEE deftly senses the nuances in his relations, wonderfully senses the moods of others towards him. If someone, whom he must deal with, is capable of holding him at a distance, of resisting him, SEE will not bother with him, but if, and when, he feels slack he can press and become unceremonious.”

    Never mind

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Your behavior in this thread is inappropriate!
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    He seems mildly annoyed and uncomfortable the whole video.
    8:54 :|| Oh boy...

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