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    Question LIE: Valuing Competition and Aggression in Others

    Hello,

    I appreciate individuals that put in a lot of effort in activities, specifically sport games. Recently, I am noticing a personality pattern between these individuals (described below). I was hoping if anyone may be able to provide their input on what type(s) they are, based on the limited list below.

    I was contemplating ESTps or ESTjs. They give me the impression of Se leading, and I am supposedly Se valuing. However, I have always thought that Se leading are a bit more 'loud' and flamboyant, somewhat obnoxious IMO. Where as the individual I am referring to are much more subdued and independent- not much interested in the opinions of others, more soldier-like. So I was thinking ESTj; they are utilizing their demonstrative function? Maybe ISFj? I have never met a male ISFj, thus limited experience.

    Shared characteristics of these people:
    Confident, but not domineering
    Do not display an interest in leadership or boss people around
    Not good in human interaction, a bit robotic in speech
    Average amount of talkativeness- relatively keeps to themselves
    Not socially popular among their peers
    Openly and directly aggressive- head-on like play style and behavior, however not verbal aggression or 'cheap shots'
    Invests full and constant intensity and energy
    Never complain about injuries or misfortunes
    Hate losing
    I describe them as 'pitbulls' Lol

    I get along very well with all of them- as a teammate and in general conversation. I respect their 'presence' and they accept my subtle leadership in explaining the goal/play. They all give me the same vibe and very similar relation development. My father, whom I have typed as an INTj, does not get along with two of these individuals. He claims they are jerks and overly aggressive- "going to hurt somebody."

    Any input is much appreciated

    PS: My Socionics type is not definite- so provide contrasting perspectives if necessary.

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    sounds Hot

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    LSI maybe.

    Could also be SLE but ime they always give away an extroverted impression.
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    I agree LSI, probably E9w8. LSI is the pitbull of the socion.

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    Ok thanks. I can possibly see ISTj. I guess with further interaction- illusionary relations could become apparent.

    They can also be ESTp-Ti, only initially appearing introverted because they were talkative and friendly once I initiated conversation. I have always categorized ESTps with 'gangsters' and ISTjs with 'soldiers'. The discussed individuals remind me of the later.

    If any ENTjs are willing, can they please share their impression of ESTps? Much appreciated!

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    I had a teammate and friend similar to how you describe, when we played together we really made a difference, I was the director and he was a great executor (soccer).
    However in his free time he always had his beta gang where I didn't really fit in. I always assumed he is LSI-Se.

    ESI males are similar but their Fi usually shines through. They may be awkward with new people however sincere (IxFx) communication style is clear.
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    Probably LSI or ESI

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    Yeah I think it's called liking chads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    I agree LSI, probably E9w8. LSI is the pitbull of the socion.
    LSI beneficiaries I have known well are much more interpersonally soft kind and somewhat gallant compared to my quasi-Identical ESIs who are prone to create conflict.

    Many LSIs and ESIs have been swapped in people's understandings on this forum. True LSIs are not innately pit bulls. They tend to be gentlemen and gentle ladies. Their strength is reserved for logic rather than interpersonal relations.

    It is the ESIs who get really competitive in anything and hate losing. They will make a scene of their dismay.
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    LSḮs tend to be the ones who appreciate competitive spirit from others and they are ready to support it when they come into contact with individuals who have those kind of goals. It is usually reserved for societal concerns as they might put purely academic concerns aside while they might have invested themselves into those fields.
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