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    Has been moved from INFP to ESFj on Rick's Socionics site (should have been to moved to an asylum... ).
    http://socionics.us/celebrities/ese.shtml#cruise
    Meh. I'm quite impressionable, so I yeah, I think that's a plausible type...but what do I know? It's certainly more plausible than INFp.

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    I saw him typed as ENFp somewhere and I thought WHAT WHAT????

    Yeah I can see ESFj too.

    What about Katie Holmes? And Nicole Kidman and Penelope Cruz and Mimi Rogers for that matter.
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    Yeah, that second pic on the first row displays IMO. I can definitely see Nicole Kidman as a xNFx type, but the others I just don't know.

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    I can see Si and I can definitely see Fe.
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    Stolen from wikipedia:

    Holmes loved reading: "I never feel lonely in a bookstore," she said.[11] A British writer profiling her in 2003 said "The way Holmes approached her unusual education was as American as apple pie: she went to cheerleading practice, got straight A grades, and made a pledge that she would remain a virgin until marriage."[12] Holmes told her hometown paper The Blade that the three words best describing herself were "honest, determined, and imaginative."[13]
    At fourteen she began classes at a modeling school in Toledo run by Margaret O'Brien, who took her to a New York City talent expo in 1996. There she found an agent after performing a monologue from To Kill a Mockingbird.[14] An audition tape was sent to the casting director for the 1997 film The Ice Storm, directed by Ang Lee. She was cast in a small role, Libbets Casey, in the film which starred Kevin Kline and Sigourney Weaver. Ang Lee told The Blade, "Katie was cast because she had the perfect amount of innocence and worldliness that we needed for Libbets. I was really taken by her wide open eyes. She really is a beautiful girl but there is also a lot of intelligence there and it shows."[15]

    (about Dawson's Creek)

    Joey Potter" is a headstrong, vibrant, wily, sultry, and determined go-getter. And yet, in a gloriously contradictory manner, in spite of her tough-as-nails exterior demeanor, Joey's also a frail, sometimes uncertain, emotionally sensitive, in-need-of-love person," said the show's official book

    "I'm a lot like Joey," said Holmes. "I think they saw that. I come from a small town. I was a tomboy. Joey tries to be articulate and deny that she doesn't have a lot of experience in life. Her life parallels mine, which is all about new everything—relationships, personal perceptions—and about being guarded."


    Maybe ISFp?

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    ESFj seems correct to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker Mom
    What about Katie Holmes? And Nicole Kidman and Penelope Cruz and Mimi Rogers for that matter.
    that was going to be my question. i don't think katie holmes is ISFp though.

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    what happend to istp? that's what i always thought he was. but then again he's pretty smiley. nicole kidman seems like either a thinker or an isfj. he's pretty private. i saw him on the actor's studio once and he was open there. not too deep in m opinion, but he had a twinkle in his eye that you don't catch in his films or in pictures.

    i can't really picture esfj for tom cruise. but i don't really know what else he'd be either.

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    ah, and then the vilnius school had him typed as ENTp.

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    That may not be a Socionics type, but that is certainly Tom Cruise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
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    I am inclined to agree but ESFj is also plausible IMO.

    I was living in the London area when he went there for the Leicester Square opening of Minority Report. I wasn't there myself, but he made a very good impression by mixing with the fans outside for two hours, even making calls from people's cellphones to their friends to say, "hi, this is Tom Cruise". If he does things like that for two hours, at this point in his career, I can see that as evidence for dominance.
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    I watched an interview with him today. He seems like a very nice and friendly man... never the less a bit spooky.

    I’d agree with ENFj because he’s very strongly opinionated. I could see the points made towards ESFj though because of the high energy. Whatever type he is, he aparently wants to portray INFp values.
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    fuk tom cruise.

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    What's an "infp value"? :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    What's an "infp value"? :/
    lol. Being married with children, living in a dream house, with a dream job and living happily ever after with lots of positive emotions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    What's an "infp value"? :/
    lol. Being married with children, living in a dream house, with a dream job and living happily ever after with lots of positive emotions.
    Yeah dream house, dream job, and living happily... what idiot would value that.
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    Not that... he’s always talking about how dreamy he is, and talking about imagination 24/7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    What's an "infp value"? :/
    lol. Being married with children, living in a dream house, with a dream job and living happily ever after with lots of positive emotions.
    Yeah dream house, dream job, and living happily... what idiot would value that.
    One that likes to dress up in pretty bows and play house ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall
    Not that... he’s always talking about how dreamy he is, and talking about imagination 24/7.
    ENFJs do that too. The fact of how judgemental he is, and pushes his values out there as being "right", fits ENFJ. An INFP would shrink from such a thing.

    Another thing, INFPs are generally one of the best types at learning foreign languages. In the last samurai, it looked to me like he struggled with every japanese line. Japanese is phonetically quite simple but he seemed to be labouring to recall and get out the right sounds. ENFJs have pretty terrible memories for facts or learning things by rote.

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    I never said I thought he was INFp, just dreamy like one.
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    if cruise is infp he is a failure of one -_-

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    ya he seems to be one of the best examples of an Fe-ESFj, to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strrrng View Post
    ya he seems to be one of the best examples of an Fe-ESFj, to me.
    Strrrng has become very accurate at typing... I agree with him here too. Tom Cruise = ESFj.

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    cruise is lookin all too balla there.

    wtf i never knew Fe was fanatical.
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    esper esper INFp, are you able to talk to me?

    I admire his dedication. He was easily brainwashed. He must have found something very good in scientology. Or maybe he was bombarded by Ti.
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    Kamangir is awesome.
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    I concur with the above statement.
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    Maybe ENFj. An actor. And a lousy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by esper View Post
    So is this an example of Alpha Fe seriousness? Like, extreme care about a value, at seemingly any expense? This guy is PRETTY fanatical.

    Tell me about the fanaticism of Alpha Fe. Maybe...versus Beta Fe.
    I know a devout Catholic ESE (somewhat reminiscent of Cruise, actually) who is rather fanatical. I see much more of a difference between Fe-dominants and Fe-creatives in their attitude towards values than between Alpha and Beta Fs - perhaps it has to do with obstinate/compliant. Fe dominants want to go out and convert people, whereas Fe creatives are mostly content to keep their values/beliefs to themselves, and just re-evaluate them in their heads or with close friends.

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    SEE. The signs of Fe are mistaken for Se+Fi. His talking about dreams (in the mystical term) and imagination sounds like Ni-Seeking. Plus the whole Scientology idea seems like Gamma Ni-Ego, and if so, it would make sense for him to take a liking to it.

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    I've been persuaded of him being ESE for sometime. EIE would be a secondary consideration, but I do not see anything about him that would not be better reflected by an ESE typing.
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    Yeah, ESE.

    Out of all the types, only the ESE would ever jump on Oprah's couch in pure excitement.

    His fascination with Scientology sounds like it could be a strange Ti dual seeking quirk. Idk...

    I just look at the guy and shake my head.
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    Yeah, he seems EJ Fe... he tells really long-winded stories. He always tries to be as positive as possible. He seems like a cool guy.

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    I know this seems weird AF, but I think he is an LSI with a crazy Se subtype which has boosted his Fe.

    His Scientology obsession is a way his unbalanced Ni HA ("to believe") manifests itself.
    (You may disagree, but as far as I know most celebrity Scientology enthusiasts are unhealthy Ni HA individuals.)
    People with a strong Contact/Creative subtype are often oddly deficient in their Mobilizing function, to the point it can seem like Seeking.
    I get the impression he'd need some person with strong Ni to make him "see" how misguided he is.

    His obsession and love for doing his own stunts screams Se valuing (and subtype).
    No Si valuing ESE individual would willingly and with excitement take on stunts like these.
    (Watch this for more. )

    He was so ecstatic with Oprah partly because she is his Dual (EIE-Fe), partly because he was newly in love and in a relationship with Katie Holmes, his Benefactor (SEI-Fe).
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