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    I AM from a Delta family. It took a long time to find my true home in Gamma, and my Si-valuing is a legacy from that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I AM from a Delta family. It took a long time to find my true home in Gamma, and my Si-valuing is a legacy from that time.
    Yeah conditioning can influence us a lot. We might be opposites who have been wellconditioned to get along as a rare case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Yeah conditioning can influence us a lot. We might be opposites who have been well conditioned to get along as a rare case.
    I agree with that. Didn't you say that your father is LSE?

    And I really admire Si when it is done well.

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    My sexual libido gets stronger and stronger as I get older I'm glad I have found a fat 6 inches penis that makes me sexually satisfied

    I'm actually hornier than my partner and he is always surprised whenever I touch him in public.

    He's like a girl and I'm the man lololololololll

    I touch his butt on public too and his nuts lol

    But he doesn't touch me in public because he's socially aware haha

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    Sex doesn't cross my mind I just feel horny when I'm doing nothing or.. if I saw my partner and I wanna make love with him every three hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Ummm coz sex for at least 5 hours is better than 15 minutes?
    Seems painful to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Seems painful to me.

    It isn't, not with an appropriately fitting partner who knows what they are doing too. . It's awesome and what I need. I am not satisfied after anything less than an hour. Even 2 3 or 5 leaves me hungry for more but does satisfy somewhat so I'm not in pain with longing.
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    I read that Si HA likes to perfect sex, make sense to me. I am not sure about doing it for 5 hours though

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    I had sex for 5 hours when I was 19. I was ready to go again right after orgasm. Now the refractory people is much longer, like 15-20 mins at least. Plenty of time to lick around for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    I had sex for 5 hours when I was 19. I was ready to go again right after orgasm. Now the refractory people is much longer, like 15-20 mins at least. Plenty of time to lick around for a while.
    Nebula, I am so happy that you type yourself as LII-Ne now. I think we are similar, you are one of the reasons why I doubt my own type for the past couple of days, phew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Nebula, I am so happy that you type yourself as LII-Ne now. I think we are similar, you are one of the reasons why I doubt my own type for the past couple of days, phew.
    Haha! Cool! Now you relax.

    Yeah, I'm INTP in both MBTI and Socionics. I still think I'm a dominant perceiver, but I'm not sure if ENTp would be a best fit, but I struggle reconciling the extroverted nature of ENTp with what I think is my steong, introversion. I fit Ip temperament though. I think I'm too laid back for INTj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    Haha! Cool! Now you relax.

    Yeah, I'm INTP in both MBTI and Socionics. I still think I'm a dominant perceiver, but I'm not sure if ENTp would be a best fit, but I struggle reconciling the extroverted nature of ENTp with what I think is my steong, introversion. I fit Ip temperament though. I think I'm too laid back for INTj.
    I am also LII-Ne and mbti INTP as you already know. I am also too laid back for INTj. I seem like irrational then rational, I think it is because of having strong Ne type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    Haha! Cool! Now you relax.

    Yeah, I'm INTP in both MBTI and Socionics. I still think I'm a dominant perceiver, but I'm not sure if ENTp would be a best fit, but I struggle reconciling the extroverted nature of ENTp with what I think is my steong, introversion. I fit Ip temperament though. I think I'm too laid back for INTj.
    LII's can become totally expressive socially but sill they tend to get drained by people. How to see the difference from ILE? It is funny because LII's can become quite bit jollier at closer contact than ILE's who in turn might be more on a dramatic side of things. The sad clown or something close to it. Bit like awkward quirky and weird Jordan Peterson. ILE's might usually have that business like Te perspective in social settings (they need some constructive logical purpose for their presence) but LII's make it easier to break the interpersonal ice via their role. This is usually the case with LIX who have ethical role element at play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    It isn't, not with an appropriately fitting partner who knows what they are doing too. . It's awesome and what I need. I am not satisfied after anything less than an hour. Even 2 3 or 5 leaves me hungry for more but does satisfy somewhat so I'm not in pain with longing.
    I am down for 5 hours of sex+foreplay for sure. Is that what you meant? I just have a hard time imagining 5 hours of actual genital-genital friction at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    LII's can become totally expressive socially but sill they tend to get drained by people. How to see the difference from ILE? It is funny because LII's can become quite bit jollier at closer contact than ILE's who in turn might be more on a dramatic side of things. The sad clown or something close to it. Bit like awkward quirky and weird Jordan Peterson. ILE's might usually have that business like Te perspective in social settings (they need some constructive logical purpose for their presence) but LII's make it easier to break the interpersonal ice via their role. This is usually the case with LIX who have ethical role element at play.

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    Yeah, when I'm comfortable socially, I am more like the ILE. I enjoy environments where I can freely express associations, but unfortunately many people aren't open to just hearing whatever.

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    69....it all is about 69 baby, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    Yeah, when I'm comfortable socially, I am more like the ILE. I enjoy environments where I can freely express associations, but unfortunately many people aren't open to just hearing whatever.
    Yepp, it's the same with me. My can go wild when I feel comfortable and energizied.
    An obstacle is my little remaining social anxiety in such situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    I am down for 5 hours of sex+foreplay for sure. Is that what you meant? I just have a hard time imagining 5 hours of actual genital-genital friction at a time.
    Well of course little amorous breaks are required. It obviously can't be nonstop intercourse for a man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Well of course little amorous breaks are required. It obviously can't be nonstop intercourse for a man.
    How am I supposed to know what to expect from you Alphas? You guys like finding workarounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    How am I supposed to know what to expect from you Alphas? You guys like finding workarounds.
    The general idea was as much sex and amorous activity possible rarely leaving the bed for as long as possible. Common sense and practical anatomical limits sadly apply. Keeping interest up and sexual compatibility can increase the time. Pain comes with insufficient lubrication. Hope this clarifies things for those in need of clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    The general idea was as much sex and amorous activity possible rarely leaving the bed for as long as possible. Common sense and practical anatomical limits sadly apply. Keeping interest up and sexual compatibility can increase the time. Pain comes with insufficient lubrication. Hope this clarifies things for those in need of clarification.
    Ok

    - Keep drinks and light snacks, tissues next to the bed to replenish energy and muscles
    - Watch Youtube or interesting porn videos on handheld devices in between
    - Massage each other if needed
    - ILEs learn quickly. Use positive and if necessary, negative reinforcement. The more immediate and obvious, the faster they learn.

    I implied it earlier but my boyfriend has a LOT of stamina. You SEIs are lucky. I really don’t think you need to worry about this issue.

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    One of my SEI exes was a little bit rough surprisingly. I guess it’s obvious but, don’t rub his dick hard for very long lol. Even if it’s well lubricated it will become sore sooner or later. I’m guessing you’d need an entire week to rest and heal if you decide to “go hard” once a week like this for 5 hours. “Go medium” several times a week is better IMO. Plan wisely lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Well of course little amorous breaks are required. It obviously can't be nonstop intercourse for a man.
    It's a shame humans lost their baculum during evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    One of my SEI exes was a little bit rough surprisingly. I guess it’s obvious but, don’t rub his dick hard for very long lol. Even if it’s well lubricated it will become sore sooner or later. I’m guessing you’d need an entire week to rest and heal if you decide to “go hard” once a week like this for 5 hours. “Go medium” several times a week is better IMO. Plan wisely lmao.
    Yes, penal chafing sucks.

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    I don't like very rough sex. Sometimes, yes, but I like a gentle woman with a nice soft, moist.....anyways.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    Yes, penal chafing sucks.
    Girls get something like this too.

    If you eat an entire box of crackers in one sitting, no matter how much saliva your mouth produces, I guarantee your mouth will hurt afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    Girls get something like this too.

    If you eat an entire box of crackers in one sitting, no matter how much saliva your mouth produces, I guarantee your mouth will hurt afterwards.
    Good things vaginas aren't as salty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    Good things vaginas aren't as salty!
    And good thing penises are gluten-free

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    SEXUAL DISCRETION

    I am wondering if it might be an Alpha thing to believe in sexual discretion in public in ordinary life.

    When I was in high school, I dressed with utmost modesty. It didn't land me many dates but I wanted someone to be interested in me for more than my body. I kind of overdid my prudence. Yet in Muslim culture it is required to cover your women in a similar spirit of discretion.

    Personally I love sex but I hate when people let the subject out in inappropriate contexts. For example, reading about "mind blowing sex" on the cover of magazines while waiting in the grocery checkout line is one of my pet peeves. I think not honoring it in the right context cheapens it.

    What do other Alphas think? Do we tend to agree on this otherwise beloved topic of mine ???

    Kind of a related topic from another thread but I think America would be a much better place if uniforms were required in public schools k-12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    SEXUAL DISCRETION

    I am wondering if it might be an Alpha thing to believe in sexual discretion in public in ordinary life.

    When I was in high school, I dressed with utmost modesty. It didn't land me many dates but I wanted someone to be interested in me for more than my body. I kind of overdid my prudence. Yet in Muslim culture it is required to cover your women in a similar spirit of discretion.

    Personally I love sex but I hate when people let the subject out in inappropriate contexts. For example, reading about "mind blowing sex" on the cover of magazines while waiting in the grocery checkout line is one of my pet peeves. I think not honoring it in the right context cheapens it.

    What do other Alphas think? Do we tend to agree on this otherwise beloved topic of mine ???

    Kind of a related topic from another thread but I think America would be a much better place if uniforms were required in public schools k-12.
    I'm not an Alpha, but I can confidently say that most of my problems with Alpha (and this has been repeatedly pointed out to me by ILE's, SEI's, LII's and ESE's, every single type in Alpha) stem from the fact that they say that my sense of humor is not fit for public consumption. I evidently speak far too openly about things they like to keep unspoken. And this can be something as innocuous as mentioning the fact that I'm dating someone.

    However, most Gammas seem to respond fine to my sense of humor, or so it seems to me.

    I think the difference in perception of what is proper is due to both Fe/Si and Fi/Se, rather than anything relating to T or N.


    On the other hand, this might not be type-related, exactly. I think a lot of porn stars are SEI.

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    @vesstheastralsilky

    I hate the idea of "sexual discretion" lol. It feels so repressive and prudish. I'm not saying it isn't possible to go too far with overt expressions of sexuality because it is, but usually I find my threshhold for getting offended wrt to sexual matters is pretty high. Also, if I find something inappropriate wrt to sexual matters it has more to do with style and delivery than it does content.

    That's a gamma perspective, fwiw.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    SEXUAL DISCRETION

    I am wondering if it might be an Alpha thing to believe in sexual discretion in public in ordinary life.

    When I was in high school, I dressed with utmost modesty. It didn't land me many dates but I wanted someone to be interested in me for more than my body. I kind of overdid my prudence. Yet in Muslim culture it is required to cover your women in a similar spirit of discretion.

    Personally I love sex but I hate when people let the subject out in inappropriate contexts. For example, reading about "mind blowing sex" on the cover of magazines while waiting in the grocery checkout line is one of my pet peeves. I think not honoring it in the right context cheapens it.

    What do other Alphas think? Do we tend to agree on this otherwise beloved topic of mine ???

    Kind of a related topic from another thread but I think America would be a much better place if uniforms were required in public schools k-12.
    You can’t cheapen something that has an unassailably high value.

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    I don't care about sexual discretion (but I'm not against it). I just think ppl's sexualities get expressed in ways unique to them.

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    Sexual impulses are the characteristic owned by lack of self discipline dumbo. It's not type related, sorry.

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    On the flip side of discretion, I wonder how many people involved in the voyeuristic sex scenes of Amsterdam and Rio might be Alpha. It is possibly the majority and the subject of discretion is different when one is talking about hot exclusive venues rather than commonplace practices.
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    (Bumping this thread, I know — I’ve been told bumping is fine as it encourages activity or something.)

    Anyway, my sexual drive varies day by day. It tends to either be completely absent or incredibly powerful. This might have more to do with hormones than anything else, as others have said; I’m in my early twenties. I think I’d be more consistently horny if I had a sexually compatible partner.

    Re. talking about sexual matters in public — I don’t really care if others do it, but I tend to be too concerned about acting improperly in public to mention it to anyone I’m not very familiar with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Alpha NTs, what is your approx age range (e.g. teens, 20s, 30s, etc) and how often does sex naturally cross your mind? Is it usually absent unless suggested to you by an outside source, or do you naturally find imaginations arising in you throughout your day??
    In my 30s. If I have a crush on a girl, all the time. If not, I never think about it. And, if I am basically not thinking about it, I'll look at some hardcore porn and basically not think about it until I watch it again...

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    Probably deals with neurotransmitters. After taking SNRI (for very foggy headache stuff) it suddenly raised through the roof physiologically then I changed it to better and it was gone.
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