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    Functional correspondences can be found in Buddhism as:

    Ti Right Understanding
    Te Right Thought
    Fi Right Speech
    Fe Right Livelihood
    Si Right Mindfulness
    Se Right Action
    Ni Right Effort
    Ne Right Concentration
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    What does Fe have to with Livelihood?

    Right Understanding: Ti
    Right Resolve/Intention/Thought: Ne
    Right Speech: Fe
    Right Livelihood: Te
    Right Mindfulness: Si
    Right Action: Fi
    Right Effort: Se
    Right Concentration: Ni

    Then we have TiNe for Wisdom, FeFiTe for Morality (Ethical Conduct), and SeSiNi for Mental Discipline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    What does Fe have to with {Right} Livelihood?
    It takes a lot of Fe caring and understanding to say, not slap someone when working in a caring or customer service role. True Fe does no harm to others and seeks to prevent it. Meanwhile other types are busy working at other aspects of a job and leave Fe's with little reward for "being too nice" instead of, for example, getting well paid.

    I didn't just go by the names when writing correspondences but had researched their meanings multiple times in the past.
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    Hah, cool.



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    IMO/IME the eight fold path, however much it can teach you to live well, is not the answer. You can't ethic your way into reality.

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    regarding Fe:

    *its however I want to make you feel. and however I want to express*

    Not nicey nice all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    It takes a lot of Fe caring and understanding to say, not slap someone when working in a caring or customer service role. True Fe does no harm to others and seeks to prevent it. Meanwhile other types are busy working at other aspects of a job and leave Fe's with little reward for "being too nice" instead of, for example, getting well paid.

    I didn't just go by the names when writing correspondences but had researched their meanings multiple times in the past.
    You're stretching the meaning, both of Fe and Right Livelihood. My interpretation is much more straightforward: Fe characterizes how you express yourself, including speech. Te has to do with resource management and economics, including livelihood. And according to all the sources I've read, Right Livelihood is supposed to be about the moral quality of the actual work you do, not how you treat people when you're at work. Here's a good link that goes back to the primary sources.

    It should be noted however, that since Buddhism is essentially an Si philosophy, many of them are also "colored" with Si, i.e. being nice and not hurting people etc. -- which is what you're (IMO not correctly) relating to Fe.
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