Anyone experience relations of identity before in the longterm? What was it like?
Identical relations
Anyone experience relations of identity before in the longterm? What was it like?
depends on the people involved, if two people have identical ways to deal with life it can be perfect, easy, amusing, boring, challenging, draining, and what not. but chances are that 2 identicals will actually be two very different people with some things in common, so again, it can be perfect, easy, amusing, boring, challenging, draining, etc etc, all the same.
psychology says we tend to look for the similar, not for complementaries.
I remember experiencing two such relationships although they weren't intimate. We got along well. They were both very different but exhibited many of my flaws, which seemed to be a constant source of irritation, which wasn't directed at them so much as me. I think the interactions helped me with knowing myself even though the outcomes were very predictable but they did have competitive undertones - my vanilla is better than your vanilla as opposed to we be both like vanilla.
a.k.a I/O
agreed, I'm thinking of the INFx people I know, both P and J and the things tend to follow similar patterns to those described in quasis with all of them: great convos, good affinity, but even a sort of envy/entitlement to their own achievements, as in "I could have been doing the same!". no distinction between the P and J here.
I've had a couple LIE friends growing up.
One when I was like 15-16, and living in TN. Same age as me, I think he went to the same school but I knew him not from school but because he lived in the apartment above mine. He was from Poland, a fan of Nirvana, and a catholic. He could play guitar, I once heard and saw him play, he played "smells like teen spirit" for me and he kicked ass at it. At the time, I wasn't aware of the kind of prowess it took to play guitar like that, only in retrospect did it hit me he knew how to play. All in all we got along smoothly, we had a similar outlook on life and society. He criticized me alot though. I remember one time we went to the store near where we lived, and bought some men's magazines (not porn) so we could discuss the babes, lol. Anyways, I knew him for a few months then I moved to Vegas. I'm guessing his subtype was H or N.
In Vegas around when I was 16-17 I started hanging out with another LIE, who was very different, I think due to subtypes, this one was a D. But it didn't go as well, which is the pattern I notice in my relations with D subtypes. At first we got along smoothly, but he was from a different upbringing, he had been raised in the "ghetto" and was street smart where I was more book smart. Still, he did some things to me I felt were dishonest, and his older brother, an SLE was a real asshole. I quickly realized his crowd wasn't for me, and made some better friends after that.
I've also had an LIE counselor, that worked well because she is older and more experienced. But recently, I find that she isn't able to help me as much as we'd both like. She is an H subtype I think.
Identical relations, ime, can be fine at first since partners show some friendliness, openness and understanding towards one another. But as the relationship drags on, it tends to become a source of frustration as partners can't help each other with their problems. It helps if there is more of a student-mentor partnership because the older partner can teach the younger one about life regarding their strong functions, but even that tends to run dry. The problem is that identicals are incapable of helping each other, and yet see their problems reflected in the other, so it is a source of frustration in the long run.
Last edited by WVBRY; 09-09-2018 at 09:27 PM.
It's cool because we usually share the same interests. Probably half of my friends are LIIs. For me the relationship is always comfortable and rewarding offline.
I also don't expect to have great rapport with people who aren't close to me in age, I think that's normal.
Uh. When relational IE dimensions reaches 1... I think...
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Why not and why is that normal?Originally Posted by COOL AND MANLY
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I used to be interested in gaming a lot when I was younger, not much so these days. I may sit for a few minutes and play with my little brother, but it's not as fulfilling anymore.
I'm making decent money and putting 3/4 of my money in stocks, which is something I had no interest in five years ago. I don't expect teenagers to hold a conversation about money, work or family for more than a few seconds. It's just a whole different perspective.
Just a few examples.
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you gotta complete your sentences buddy
It´s good for friendship and as a teacher-student relationship, it can get a bit competitive, in a work setting it´s good one-on-one but in groups I notice some competition. It´s good to understand your own weaknesses.
If a problem arises in a work setting, cooperation can end quite quickly since we can´t help each other and may irritate each other, however after a while i am emphatetic.
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I posted a lot of my pictures elsewhere online. It would be easy to track me. I would rather not have that since this is a public forum.
I don't VI as LII anyway. At least I don't think I do. I feel like most of the VI examples I saw are so western or Russian like, and I'm the opposite of that.
I know. I've have been posting on forums fanatically since 2002, some of these forums are still up, so yeah I can come off however I want. I think it's mostly the avatar(s) and my way of posting that affects your perception of me. People have such unrealistic pictures of each other online. I also think the average LII online is boring, so I try to be different. I don't mean I don't act like myself, just that I usually choose to show a different side that is less about my current theories or whatever mental masturbation I'm doing these days. In some way I'm here to have fun and waste time. If I wanted to publish a research paper on socionics I wouldn't be posting here.
I'm blessed to have interacted with lots of great friends over the years, so some of their more lovable traits rubbed off on me, I guess? It may seem contradictory at times, but I believe there is much more to a person than his type.
Also, I'm the best LII that ever lived. I would be insulted if I came off as one that easily. I don't want to be average.
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Nah, I used to think tattoos are for degenerates. I’m more tolerant of them now, but I still wouldn’t get one.
I don’t smoke either nor do I plan to.
I don’t even think I ever wore tank tops outside of my house. It looks cheap and it attracts unwanted attention.
Yeah, I believe 70% of males in my country smoke, it’s part of the culture, but I never got into it. The thought of harming my body intentionally isn’t worth the benefits. I can’t bring myself to even consider it.
Deviantart I would guess or pixiv. I don’t remember which.
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