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    So i actually think, i might be SLE with strong Fe.. H in DCNh.. What do you think??

    Because tbh, comparing with Fi valuers i don't think i think the same as them.. Like, i think they're more a bit selfish and.. They think themselves more often than people?!!

    And i just realized they judge people based on their own Fi. Like, social norms wise it's harder for Fi valuers to fit than Fe valuers.

    And does Fi valuers easily read people? Like legitimately?? I think they can, but i don't know 😑😑😑😑

    Geez. So what do you think is the possibility that I'm SLE with strong Fe??

    And how could you not say I'm more Fi than Fe??

    I think I'm better than Fe.. Because i Fe well with Fe leads and i can easily make friends with new people through Fe.

    And.. What's the difference between Fe demonstrative verses Fe use as 3rd function??

    But I'm not neither Ti nor Fi polr.

    I don't have polr, i think..

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    What are some specific reasons you believe you are Ti ego, discluding how you get along with other types?

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    Nothing you said has anything to do with Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    So i actually think, i might be SLE with strong Fe.. H in DCNh.. What do you think??

    Because tbh, comparing with Fi valuers i don't think i think the same as them.. Like, i think they're more a bit selfish and.. They think themselves more often than people?!!

    And i just realized they judge people based on their own Fi. Like, social norms wise it's harder for Fi valuers to fit than Fe valuers.

    And does Fi valuers easily read people? Like legitimately?? I think they can, but i don't know 

    Geez. So what do you think is the possibility that I'm SLE with strong Fe??

    And how could you not say I'm more Fi than Fe??

    I think I'm better than Fe.. Because i Fe well with Fe leads and i can easily make friends with new people through Fe.

    And.. What's the difference between Fe demonstrative verses Fe use as 3rd function??

    But I'm not neither Ti nor Fi polr.

    I don't have polr, i think..
    yeah the Ti ego is real

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    What are some specific reasons you believe you are Ti ego, discluding how you get along with other types?
    I'm good at math? 😂

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    Wut???
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    Nothing you said has anything to do with Fi.

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    Stop being sarcastic bitch
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    yeah the Ti ego is real

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    Wut???
    I'm going away to camp will come back later and expand if that's alright?

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    I in awe when it comes to your logical consistency in terms of how you come across.

    Mainly that.

    OK, demonstrative function is something you use sporadically when there is a need for it. Mobilizing function gets drained outside on its own and gets charged by external feedback.
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    I like harmonizing for you
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    So you have weak sense of self?

    That is usually means very high and very low .

    creatives are prone to go trough very low evaluative periods of the world/self. It is their pitfall. They need someone to take their minds off their thoughts. This is where the weakness of their mobilizing shows up.
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    Don't come back again
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    What do you mean by gets drained and then get energized again? Can u provide a practical example?

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    I in awe when it comes to your logical consistency in terms of how you come across.

    Mainly that.

    OK, demonstrative function is something you use sporadically when there is a need for it. Mobilizing function gets drained outside on its own and gets charged by external feedback.

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    Hmm.. What do you mean? Example?
    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    So you have weak sense of self?

    That is usually means very high and very low .

    creatives are prone to go trough very low evaluative periods of the world/self. It is their pitfall. They need someone to take their minds off their thoughts. This is where the weakness of their mobilizing shows up.

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    So called mobilizing function is quite rarely used outside of activities. When person come back from work its use is virtually zero. In case of mobilizing it means that you start to become depressed and void of emotions kind of person unless something takes care of it.
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    Oh then i really have Fe mobilizing.

    My outlet of Fe-ness is Internet nowadays. (because i move new place again) Because without Internet i don't have any emotional outlet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    So called mobilizing function is quite rarely used outside of activities. When person come back from work its use is virtually zero. In case of mobilizing it means that you start to become depressed and void of emotions kind of person unless something takes care of it.

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    Maybe SLE?

    I suppose if someone does not whip mobilizing ass they can not do anything.

    AND

    I suppose if someone does not feed mobilizing tummy they become malnourished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    So i actually think, i might be SLE with strong Fe.. H in DCNh.. What do you think??

    Because tbh, comparing with Fi valuers i don't think i think the same as them.. Like, i think they're more a bit selfish and.. They think themselves more often than people?!!

    And i just realized they judge people based on their own Fi. Like, social norms wise it's harder for Fi valuers to fit than Fe valuers.

    And does Fi valuers easily read people? Like legitimately?? I think they can, but i don't know 😑😑😑😑

    Geez. So what do you think is the possibility that I'm SLE with strong Fe??

    And how could you not say I'm more Fi than Fe??

    I think I'm better than Fe.. Because i Fe well with Fe leads and i can easily make friends with new people through Fe.

    And.. What's the difference between Fe demonstrative verses Fe use as 3rd function??

    But I'm not neither Ti nor Fi polr.

    I don't have polr, i think..
    SLEs dont have Fe as 3rd function you keep juggling MBTI with socionics after more than a year and you think youre a logical type

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    I agree with that in part, I think you can be logical and call it third, but probably not Ti valuing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Maybe SLE?

    I suppose if someone does not whip mobilizing ass they can not do anything.

    AND

    I suppose if someone does not feed mobilizing tummy they become malnourished.
    That's why I'm attracted with Fe leads ya knoe. They lead me in real life to social environment. Because if I'm by myself i cannot do that alone. Maybe i can, but it takes effort. (in new environment;socially wise)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    SLEs dont have Fe as 3rd function you keep juggling MBTI with socionics after more than a year and you think youre a logical type
    Then it's called mobilizing dude.

    Mobilizing is the same as third. It has different names, but same concept. Don't be stupid and use your real brain. Not your penis brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    I agree with that in part, I think you can be logical and call it third, but probably not Ti valuing
    Duhh because my lead is stronger and my mobilizing is stronger. My introvert function is not fucking obvious. 😑😑

    Like just come to think of it, i mostly can be seen here using either Ne.. Probably Ne.. Or whatever. Probably Ne. Because I'm typing my ideas off.

    Like.. Come to stupidly think of this shit, do i use Fi or Ti here?

    You cannot determine accurately because that function is introverted. My extrovert function overrides it.

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    Well, lots of people need social interaction. Mobilizing however is hard to produce. It means that person becomes numb to it. Someone needs to wake it up.


    It is usually quite inert but after longer exposure person starts to wake up for it. It starts to become go with the flow thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    Then it's called mobilizing dude.

    Mobilizing is the same as third. It has different names, but same concept. Don't be stupid and use your real brain. Not your penis brain.
    Xd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Well, lots of people need social interaction. Mobilizing however is hard to produce. It means that person becomes numb to it. Someone needs to wake it up.


    It is usually quite inert but after longer exposure person starts to wake up for it. It starts to become go with the flow thing.
    I see. Then i already mastered my mobilizing function. I'm a fast learner ya know.

    I already mastered SE, ne, ti, fi, fe, ni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Xd
    That's how a Ti polr looks like. He can only say xD because his brain is empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    That's how a Ti polr looks like. He can only say xD because his brain is empty.
    I think your pussy is empty and needs to be filled up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    I think your pussy is empty and needs to be filled up.
    It was filled up a month ago and guess what's the sperm is very fucking acidic it died for 24 hours which made me a menstruating woman now. 😑

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    ^Time to top up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    So i actually think, i might be SLE with strong Fe.. H in DCNh.. What do you think??

    Because tbh, comparing with Fi valuers i don't think i think the same as them.. Like, i think they're more a bit selfish and.. They think themselves more often than people?!!

    And i just realized they judge people based on their own Fi. Like, social norms wise it's harder for Fi valuers to fit than Fe valuers.

    And does Fi valuers easily read people? Like legitimately?? I think they can, but i don't know 😑😑😑😑

    Geez. So what do you think is the possibility that I'm SLE with strong Fe??

    And how could you not say I'm more Fi than Fe??

    I think I'm better than Fe.. Because i Fe well with Fe leads and i can easily make friends with new people through Fe.

    And.. What's the difference between Fe demonstrative verses Fe use as 3rd function??

    But I'm not neither Ti nor Fi polr.

    I don't have polr, i think..
    SEE for sure, look at Business communication Vs Passionate communication - you clearly have passionate communication.

    The theory of valuation is broken because a lot of people contradict it. One way you are possibly "Ti" weak is in your desire to rigidly follow and work within the confines of something that suffocating.

    XLE get annoyed by rules especially when they think, they aren't useful, but they can work in a rigid system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    ^Time to top up.
    Nah. That's just for experience. Not gonna do that again. I'm just confirming his dick size. Which is only 3.5inches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupman View Post
    One way you are possibly "Ti" weak is in your desire to rigidly follow and work within the confines of something that suffocating..
    And what the fuck is that i am following

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    And what the fuck is that i am following
    Touché

    Okay, in WSS you'll obviously be "SLE" given that they believe that valuation = prominence, it's the reason they can't type Trump as SEE, and generally undermine the demonstrative emotionalism in the type contrary to the rigid belief in quadra values.

    I find it better to interpret R as tradition, morality, relations, awareness of interpersonal rapport... (the way I see things all passionate types understand this but don't wish to work within its confines, unnecessarily - ESE & SEE never ignore R it's always active and used to meet their ends).

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    And what the fuck is that i am following
    I have to be honest with you, I'm kind of struggling to see you as an "H" subtype - (subtype is incredibly prominent in a personality! when it doesn't align with the type values it distorts it). Harmonisers even logical ones my, brother and brother-in-law are SLI-H & LII-H respectively, are uncharacteristically nice and both traditionally "alpha-like" in their rapport. Harmonisers are only very nice to people because they are extremely sensitive to tension - either explicit or implicit tension so they go the extra mile to suppress bad air. They are not nice because they are "generally nice people", they have a strong aversion to bad group atmosphere.



    Quote Originally Posted by Soupman View Post
    I'd be reiterating my perspective but it's better to understand the subtypes as core motivation instead of direct behaviours since people will nullify the theory for you by contradicting it with their behaviour. Ie

    CNH types caring about results, leadership, group order, and success.
    DNH types caring about grand ideas, standing out, and admiration
    DCH types caring about the importance of rules and order, a certain level of respect for the organisation
    DCN types caring about group dynamics, group longevity, creating a stable environment for all to get along under.
    Ds want to win, so they control others as a means to an end
    Cs are admiration junkies, which is why they take risks to stand out
    Ns are highly sensitive to instability, which is why they need order.
    Hs are, of course, tension averse - so they are extra nice in compensating
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    F type you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupman View Post
    Touché

    Okay, in WSS you'll obviously be "SLE" given that they believe that valuation = prominence, it's the reason they can't type Trump as SEE, and generally undermine the demonstrative emotionalism in the type contrary to the rigid belief in quadra values.

    I find it better to interpret R as tradition, morality, relations, awareness of interpersonal rapport... (the way I see things all passionate types understand this but don't wish to work within its confines, unnecessarily - ESE & SEE never ignore R it's always active and used to meet their ends).
    Hey, what is WSS and what is R?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupman View Post
    I have to be honest with you, I'm kind of struggling to see you as an "H" subtype - (subtype is incredibly prominent in a personality! when it doesn't align with the type values it distorts it). Harmonisers even logical ones my, brother and brother-in-law are SLI-H & LII-H respectively, are uncharacteristically nice and both traditionally "alpha-like" in their rapport. Harmonisers are only very nice to people because they are extremely sensitive to tension - either explicit or implicit tension so they go the extra mile to suppress bad air. They are not nice because they are "generally nice people", they have a strong aversion to bad group atmosphere.





    Ds want to win, so they control others as a means to an end
    Cs are admiration junkies, which is why they take risks to stand out
    Ns are highly sensitive to instability, which is why they need order.
    Hs are, of course, tension averse - so they are extra nice in compensating
    Tbh. What i practice rn is harmony.. Because i already achieved what i want, so next is harmony with people.

    I am able to do that successfully in real life, but Internet wise, people are assholes so, they get what they deserve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    F type you are
    Actually my IQ and EQ is high.. but tbh, IQ is always high first.. Then came EQ. So, cognitive function wise i became a feeler..I'm a thinking feeler. 😊

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    The guy who runs WSS self-identified as a sociopath before on another forum. Not to go the “ad hominem” route but that’s just creepy. Their work is mediocre IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idontgiveaf View Post
    Hey, what is WSS and what is R?????
    World Socionics Society - they have their own theory.

    R is Ethics of relations (Fi)
    E is Ethics of emotions (Fe)
    P is Pragmatic logic (Te)
    L is Structural logic (Ti)

    F is Volitional Sensing (Se)
    S is Sensation of pleasure (Si)
    I is intuition of opportunities (Ne)
    T is intuition of time (Ni)

    The functions are polymorphic - they take different meanings depending on the type. R is heavily more tradition orientated in EII and ESi for example.

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