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    Default MBTI INTP be INTj and another INTp in Socionics?

    Can, for example, one INTP (MBTI) be INTp (socionics), and another INTP(MBTI) be INTj (socionics)?

    If this is possible, please say why.....

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    yes, J is identified with the dominant function being a rational one in socionics, so for INTP in MBTI their dominant function is Ti. This would make them a INTj in socionics

    if you're asking if two people both with Ti as their dominant function can be split 1 INTj and 1 INTp in socionics: if such a thing is possible its because socionics defines Ti in a way that splits the MBTI definition. I think what is more likely the case is certain functions in MBTI are defined differently in socionics, for example Se and Te are different in socionics than in MBTI. your example of INTx is a more difficult case because Ti is pretty steady between MBTI and socionics. in theory it is possible that 2 people, each accurately typed the same type in MBTI be 2 different types in socionics because of how socionics slices the functions and these people happen to fall on different sides. I feel like this is likely with ENTJ in MBTI being a hodgepodge of SLE LIE and LSI types because of how Se/Ti in resembles Te in socionics. this is a complex topic though and opinions differ. there is no hard and fast answer because it is predicated on debateable and unverifiable assumptions such as the base MBTI type, as well as whoever is supposedly standing in judgement having sufficient knowledge of 1) the people in question 2) MBTI and 3) socionics. which is like, never going to happen to everyones satisfaction unless you get gulenko himself to type these people, and even then, people will argue over it. so there's never going to be a final answer on the topic if given specific people which to judge. however I think most people would agree, in principle, such a case is possible as a consequence of MBTI and socionics having divergent definitions of functional domains
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    There are no "INTp" in Socionics. Socionics uses the same J/P dichotomy with the name rationality/irrationality.
    INTP = ILI in Socionics

    what can be on practice - wrong typing, where a man typed by MBT related people then gets other type by Socionics related ones
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    INTP in MBTI has Introverted Logic as primary and Extroverted Intuition as secondary. This corresponds to INTj in Socionics (LII). But because J/P is messed up in MBTI and descriptions and tests are based on it, it's possible to mistype in MBTI INTJ as INTP , and in this case, in Socionics he would be ILI.
    However, if the person is correctly typed as INTP in MBTI and you can positively confirm his primary and secondary functions, he can be only LII (INTj) in Socionics.

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    Yes. MBTI and Socionics are quite different. INTJ are often Se ego folks and INTP are often Ne ego folks (there are exceptions), that's just a pattern I have noticed. An INTP in MBTI can be INTj, INTp or other types. There is no rule here. I think Socionics is much deeper than MBTI. MBTI deals with types only superficially (stereotypes) while Socionics shows us more types' motivations (not stereotypes), so typing in Socionics is much harder than MBTI. Because you have to get close to the person to notice the patterns.

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