I'm almost sure of my type, but I'm curious to know which one I look like at a glance. I tried looking for all the pics of myself I've taken during the years (I'm 19, but some are fairly old).
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I'm almost sure of my type, but I'm curious to know which one I look like at a glance. I tried looking for all the pics of myself I've taken during the years (I'm 19, but some are fairly old).
Last edited by croww; 12-21-2017 at 05:11 PM.
I associate noodle arms with Fi
ESI or EII
INxj
Introvert, ESI most likely, possibly EII.
if Fi is a wall, Fe is fake and she doesn't seem fake so "wall" it isYou look much sweeter and less guarded. I don't really get that Fi wall vibe from you that I get from Fi leads (though I could possibly see Fi creative).
Fe imitating this look is Pink, fyi. but this seems more like the real deal, that which Fe tries to be but is not
seems like a straightforward case of SEI looking up to EII, but in this case with a bit of sour grape, "it can't be true" denial from 3rd party IEI trying to cast a popularity increasing spell
stop reading here unless you have autism like me
VI is about communication across the perceptual domain, which is irrational. if Se Ti scheme of VI based on a catalogue developed by an individual actually worked it would be simple to type anyone, but thats not what VI is, its the subjective impressions a person makes and those are individual to the parties. Filatova's portraits are just her individual associations which rely on her own subjective interpretation of what those portraits ultimately represent, they can't be adopted by anyone else (as a rote typology). The closest thing to an objectively applicable system of (Se/Ti) VI is the kind of stuff Tsypin does here
in other words, you can't just say "this person looks like this other person, person 3 typed as X, therefore they must be X" because it relies on you seeing whatever person 3 saw (and you weren't there). that's the entire point, it eliminates the entire point of subjective impressions to stick to the "formula" we might as well get back to measuring skull size, which is precisely the way in which VI is mocked and invalid. in other words, Fox's version of VI is phrenology and bad, and on top of that inaccurate in the current situation to boot...
EII could make any of those faces made by IEI, those portraits are a scam inasmuch as they're time/space/culturally bound snapshots representing something other than the people, i.e.: the "type" in the mind of filatova. they're not real people in the sense that you aren't "experiencing" them the way we experience the photos in the OP. they're a kind of forced conformity to an archetype like what a fashion model does--they just project an image. you could literally change all the people to their conflictor and pose them a certain way to create the same effect. the point is people have to be in natural circumstances and we are more in those circumstances here than Filatova's catalogue is, so these judgements trump those, not the other way around. in other words, the people have spoken and you can't force silly Ti judgements on them via recourse to Filatova, which she didn't believe in anyway, it was precisely this kind of "modeling impressions" she intended to catalogue, not be used directly in order to type people
in other words, IEI in her catalogue is the "face of mirage" not real IEIs. so when I say she doesn't seem fake I'm saying she's not IEI. which is actually a proper use of filatova's system. your whole thing would subsume "anything I like" into "IEI" which is precisely what IEI tries to accomplish, becoming what it intuits other people like, but its a faulty projection onto others to assume that anyone else participates in that dynamic. in other words, inasmuch as someone is likeable to you doesn't make them IEI [1], that just the projection of IEI onto the psyche of everyone else, sometimes people are naturally likeable and they're not trying to turn themselves into a human mirage--it is backwards to identify IEI with likeability when its more like IEI artificially imitates likeability, hence the distinction in demeanor between Fe (Pink) and Fi (Here)
[1] Adam Strange has a weird version of this same error where anyone he likes he types as ESI. I think this relates to him being SLE and participating in the same fundamental game as IEI, from the other side. But its a fundamentally inexcusable and empty power game ("popularity increasing spell" captures it nicely)
Last edited by Bertrand; 12-21-2017 at 02:13 AM.
they're allowed to be, Ill just be super disappointed (not really, Fe is fine when its not being destructive, which could be said about anything). in any case, your base rationale is still bad and not what VI is about. once again you perpetuate the stereotypes that keep typology from advancing or being taken seriously (you, you're the bad Fe)Originally Posted by fox
Nobody you feel a positive first impression of is allowed to be Fe ego, we get it.
your punishment is never having a genuine relationship with anyone and your ideal match is the person for whom that is not a requirement because theyre literally incapable of conceiving of relationships as anything more than one more image for them to project to the world. congrats on being nothing more than an object whose entire use is as an instrumentality to effect another person's fantasy about what relationships should look like. its funny how gamma gets the "stepford" label when its literally what IEI aspires to be. just another thing to envy ESI for I guess, stealing your glory once again, just like in this thread
is that how you felt when you began to realize people have more positive associations with Fi than Fe
@fox, you may be right.
My first impression of @croww's pictures at low resolution was ESI, but I also got a hint of an IEI, too. But I thought, No, mostly Fi.
Now that I'm looking closer, ESI seems a bit off, but still seems closer than any other type. I get fainter hints of LII. I think this needs a questionnaire.
Disclaimer: I type everyone as ESI or IEI, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
very low certainty, basing this off of someone i know who very vaguely resembles you, I'd suggest LII. However you do lack something something compared to that other girl I know so i'd say it's a close match rather than I VI you as such. / .02 cents PS: will you reveal us your type?
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it's much better to do a video to assume a type
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1096450
you look as introvert
the point is IEIs try to capture the look of youthful women, but its a reversal as to how Fox types. Jung would just call it an anima complex which is why male IEIs come off as gay, precisely because they're trying to be 19 year old girls. Hence the superficial resemblance to the portraits. the noodle arms thing is a joke because of how capricious Vi gets anyway, and Adam Strange has his own problem with VIing that is likewise confused
IEI/SEI was my initial impression too, though LII-Nes can VI close to an IEI and have that same dreamy Fe/Ti introvert look.
LII is possible, I'd need longer for my intuition to kick in.
Yes. Can be LII.
You're a thinker type gurl.
You don't look like a feeler actually.
At first glance i thought would be a Ti-dom
You actually got that boyish look
Which actually is the same as my Istp lsi friend. I don't know why, they're just fucking look boyish for unknown reasons > Ti blame Ti.
Ti makes someone looks boyish i think.
Plus you obviously look introverted.
And basing on your own results, LII. It can actually be real and backed up that you're really an LII.
Sometimes VI is inaccurate (most of the time, especially on pictures only)
I actually have a picture of me who looks very not me. If you'll VI it, you'll probably say im iei.
Pictures are just pictures. Video is more accurate.
You can create a video 📹 if you want better and more accurate typing
Because VI = people have different views/perceptions on what they see. So VI is inaccurate.
Not so different. Even by photos anyone typed her to introvert.
VI by bloggers video gave typing match close to questionnaires. At least, it's comparable to other offline methods.
Just drawing some conclusions, since I had made this thread out of curiosity. I already know how VI-ing from a few pics is unreliable.
I'm surprised that I appeared ESI to many. IRL, I really lack in anything related to Se features. Overall, its competional and harsh aspects often get on my nerves really, really hard. Something similar with Fi. I generally connect better with Fe. I'm not at ease with all of that intensity and "the wall" Fi produces.
Still regarding VI through those photos (I wish I'd be able to make a video someday, but english is not my first language), I can definitely see Fe creative. So SEI or IEI. This takes me to the last step. To me, Fe is the classical "I like it in others but, ffs, I really lack in it" function. The "you're not LII, you're just a SEI weirdly grown with an underdeveloped Fe" has been one of my main concerns when I tried typing myself.
The fun thing is that in tests I strongly score as an alpha NT. In particular, also by studying the theory and applying it in everyday life, LII-Ne.
what do you think about trump
Noodle arms!
I'm a guy, but my arms are probably thinner than yours. People can grip them with 2 fingers pretty easily.
So, because of that similarity, EII. Yup, totally valid VI method!
You may do the video on your native language. It will be used like photos - to get impressions from your nonverbal. To say about yourself you may by a text in questionnaires.
> In particular, also by studying the theory and applying it in everyday life, LII-Ne.
Were math and technical subjects easier and more interesting for you in places where you studed?
That's an idea.
I was speaking about socionics, but kinda. I study chemistry at university. When I had to choose which uni, I didn't know whether to take chemistry, physics or computer science.Were math and technical subjects easier and more interesting for you in places where you studed?
I had initially taken a latin and greek- oriented curriculum in high school, but dropped out a year before my degree, prepared the exams required to switch courses during summer, and finished high school with a scientific curriculum (mostly maths, physics, chem and technical drawing. I had tried taking I.T. when I was switching courses, but felt too lazy to prepare the exam. I preferred keeping on studying it by myself).
It is more about subjects that make a logical sense, follow a strict line of reasoning and allow me to discover how things work (for example, even if I hated my first choice in high school, philology wasn't that bad. I was allowed to understand how words form following some strict criteria. On the other hand, I hated literature as it was infertile to me).
Last edited by croww; 12-23-2017 at 07:56 PM.
make a video, talk about trump (in a different language)
You look IEI to me.
Delta NF, probably EII. You remind me of 2 EII lady friends of mine who both have a similar gentle demeanour and wistful facial expressions. Also, dress-style is very Delta - comfortable but respectable, yet understated.
EDIT: Definitely no Se in the ego-block. Anyone typing ESI is out of their mind, IMO. You look Se-vulnerable like an EII, if anything.
Last edited by AndyW; 12-30-2017 at 08:50 PM. Reason: Stuff about Se
Is this girl thin. I wouldn't really think that to be true, especially because one could also say this girl is T H I C C. Le girl the name is not said to stem from le girl the entity. Le girl can only be said to be le girl. That's what makes le girl so particularly interesting
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I retook the test. I'll definitely do another questionnaire sooner or later.
Results: alpha>beta>delta>gamma
LII>ILE>LSI>ILI
Last edited by croww; 01-11-2018 at 06:51 PM.
Lol, sounds exactly like an LII toying with Ne. High five.
EII for sure
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
ESI
First impression was LII, mostly only posting this to congratulate myself on being correct thoughDidn't get any Fi from the photos, dunno what you guys are seeing.
Such tests are useful as express methods only. They (every, though they are similar) are done a single time per long time period to be valid, and by those who knows nothing about the typology. As in other case you understand what is checked and having a predisposition to some type you may easily mislead yourself and the test.
Mostly assumed IN*J for you. It's good to see your video, as with studing to technical stuff you are able to tell in technical terms and such be typed as T type, meanwhile even being F one. Nonverbal is lesser affected by this.
Also after mb several days, after I'll update my bloggers list in the signature, you may look at people of different types there to check which types you find as more psychically comfortable for you, - what your type would fit to IR theory better with those examples.
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