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    Default Judaism a victimy religion?

    They wait for their savior. The one to make everything right again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    They wait for their savior. The one to make everything right again.
    Theyre also moneyhungry. Gamma NT religion confirmed.

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    the messiah was a gamma NT

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    The new Testament also speaks about the awaiting for the return of Christ, but the persective and values of Judaism and Christianism are different.
    Last edited by Hope; 12-02-2017 at 06:51 PM.

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    They are a lot more pragmatic about it. The appointment is scheduled near the year 6000, right now it's year 5778 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_6000

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    Boy oh boy, am I flattered. But no. To have a whole religion labeled as your people would make things easier for me, but that does not work. Like I can't just walk up to some Jewish guy, and he'll know exactly what I'm saying. It'd be like saying, we're all from this town, therefore it is automatically assumed that people from there will always be consistently the same over millions of years, and thus have the same opinions on things, no matter what. Kind of silly. Kind of why things fall apart.

    Well, yeah. So uh yeah. Yes, I'm serious, no I don't have to be, but hey, uh, it's kind of a good idea, cause some lunatic will take this seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    They wait for their savior. The one to make everything right again.
    That's every Abrahamic religion.

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    Sorry but this is bullshit, doesn't relate to socionics

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    Jews rule the world, how can that be victimy? Jews understand mind over matter. Jews are the ones that get you to waste so much of your time talking about tv shows that don't really exist lmao. Behold the power of Jew. Nobody could ever stop it. <3

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    I'd have a lot more respect for religion if wasn't dominated by all these "be a docile law abiding little pussy and wait for Jesus or whoever to save you" type of religions. At least the roman/greek/norse gods were badass and interesting to learn about.

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    ILI-Ni kind of religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Theyre also moneyhungry. Gamma NT religion confirmed.
    The Gamma messiah?


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    They don't just merely wait for the savior they try to fulfill the law and become the savior, they fail and default to anticipating the prophecies of the coming savior will be fulfilled... but the religion is really about the individual living by the law and fulfilling it. Infact most of the typical criticisms of the bible promoting supremacy and trampling the underclass, promoting individualism, etc. are actually criticisms of judaism. That kind of supremacy is deeply rooted in their religion which is why they are usually successful people.
    It's actually very odd that Nazism has framed the Jews as martyrs when their religion mirrors the philosophies of Nazi supremacy in most ways... ****** kind of supplanted the Jewish philosophy and he filled the void with his own supremacist philosophy. His mother was Jewish, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post
    That's every Abrahamic religion.
    Jews wait for the prophecies of the promised messiah in the old testament to be fulfilled, they do not believe they have been fulfilled.

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    the Jewish side of my family is overwhelmingly Alpha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletsanddoves View Post
    Jews rule the world, how can that be victimy?
    just 'cuz you rule the world doesn't mean you don't want a strong mensch to take you home at night
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    victim is an archetype that developed as a consequence of Judaism so its sort of an anachronism to apply it to the tradition

    Also Judaism is itself in the process of development, so it depends on what we mean when we say Judaism. Today's Jews? Ancient Israelites? Orthodox, Reform, etc?

    People are constantly trying to reduce things down to a 1d picture; despite the fact that you can linguistically represent the question in such a reduced form, it calls for an answer in the form of the dissolution of the question, because an answer in like terms fails to be a helpful answer for want of greater sophistication, and that's really what the question is asking

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    The Real Jews are Black People

    As for the imposters...
    Revelations 3:9 (King James Bible):
    Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    And since They wrote the Bible, it is their own admission that they are The Synagogue of Satan.

    Also, The Holocaust was a Fucking HOAX
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    The Real Jews are Black People
    As for ethnic jews the European and Middle eastern jews are not less real than the African ones, they have Y DNA in common.



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    Religiously - the beliefs I was raised with and still hold are closest to those of messianic jews, but I'm not one as I have beliefs that also differ. Reading about many different religions, I don't think Judaism as a whole is particularly victim-y, it's less so probably than catholics, most protestants and also eastern religions. Some eastern religions in particular seem very keen on people letting go of their sense of power and being very accepting which to me is more of a victim mindset than one in which you have some sense of control over your destiny. Matter of perspective I suppose.

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    Religion in the context which is man made traditions, could therefore be said that the structure of society itself is a religion - ie religious, in which context we are all victims.

    In the context of salvation, ie, the Messiah, it transcends society, because no matter who you are or where you are, salvation can be yours ... it's the only thing that sets you free, so, no, I would say the world is victimy but hope and salvation is not victimy, but freedom.

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