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    Here's my take on the Communication Styles in Socionics.



     
    We all have a certain style of communicating with others. According to Gulenko there are 4 main styles: Passionate, Sincere, Serious, Business. I will go through how each style tends to talk or sound a certain way.

    Theory: http://definitive-socionics.wikidot....ication-styles


    0:48 Acting
    2:23 Sincere Speech Pattern
    2:47 Passionate Speech Pattern
    4:30 Sincere Speech Sample
    4:55 Passionate Speech Sample
    5:38 Ethical vs Logical Speech
    6:09 Serious in general, Monotony
    7:07 Passionate vs Serious
    7:28 Serious Speech Sample
    8:13 Business Speech Pattern
    8:49 All Styles Comparison (Visualization)
    9:15 Business Speech Pattern
    9:35 Business Speech Sample
    10:45 Subtype and Communication Style Mixes and Exceptions
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    You are still having an inclination to make a content for a channel. Just need better camera and mb light.
    As the clip's title I'd made: Socionics: Gulenko's Communication Styles

    hotelambush should like the title picture
    your appearance also reminds Mediterranean/Eastern women, which you've noticed many men like here
    Last edited by Sol; 11-23-2017 at 10:58 AM.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Could you post examples of each style in the future? Like actual people of those types talking, I'm trying to decide between two but native speaking samples are needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playing With Fire View Post
    Could you post examples of each style in the future? Like actual people of those types talking, I'm trying to decide between two but native speaking samples are needed.
    Is this enough or do you want more examples?
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    You’re speaking much more softly and slowly in this video than your others.. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Is this enough or do you want more examples?

    Oh yeah there are those, sorry I must have gotten lazy and just wanted to be hand fed

    I actually just recorded myself both just talking and then reading, but hell If I can recognize which type do I fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playing With Fire View Post
    In case anyone wants to have a go about which style do I use:

    Actually talking to a friend on the phone,the only one I think sounds 100% natural:
    https://vocaroo.com/i/s1vl7sAXvt4S

    Talking to myself, felt weird to record it:
    https://vocaroo.com/i/s1VhnCKc9kM8


    Reading a book passage:
    https://vocaroo.com/i/s0nn9rbMv1ql
    Crystal clear, passionate. A lot, lot, lot of , ethics in general, a colorful plethora of intonations. (Can I quote?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Crystal clear, passionate. A lot, lot, lot of , ethics in general, a colorful plethora of intonations. (Can I quote?)
    I was thinking it was that one, but then the spikes in tone of Business got me a bit confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playing With Fire View Post
    I was thinking it was that one, but then the spikes in tone of Business got me a bit confused.
    They overlap because of extroversion, but with you it is deliberate emotional judgment. Business doesn't get carried away so quickly, passionate indulges.

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    You have stimulated me to post a voice recording of myself...enjoy.

    https://vocaroo.com/i/s09Bhcvgmczv

    Script:

    http://theothersideoffunerals.blogsp...h-funeral.html
    Others around you will laugh at you and shame you. They will try to make you doubt yourself as they do. However, know that they only do this because they feel threatened by you. They know that you have a higher purpose, and out of jealousy seek to dissuade you from it. They will say: I am just trying to help you. I worry about you. I want the best for you. Do not listen to them. Trust in yourself; in your ability and in your destiny. It may be that for days, months and years, you feel utterly alone in the world, unloved, despised and powerless to change your situation. But you are not alone. Close your eyes and ears to the malcontents, and you will see the true path that lies ahead of you.



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    @Cuivienen, you seemed to have the Sincere CS to me when we were in voice chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    You’re speaking much more softly and slowly in this video than your others.. lol
    Yeah apparently I can "act up" my voice when I feel like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    @Cuivienen, you seemed to have the Sincere CS to me when we were in voice chat.
    Really? I am hardly an introvert.

    I just come across as quite calm and relaxed over voice, I think.
    Others around you will laugh at you and shame you. They will try to make you doubt yourself as they do. However, know that they only do this because they feel threatened by you. They know that you have a higher purpose, and out of jealousy seek to dissuade you from it. They will say: I am just trying to help you. I worry about you. I want the best for you. Do not listen to them. Trust in yourself; in your ability and in your destiny. It may be that for days, months and years, you feel utterly alone in the world, unloved, despised and powerless to change your situation. But you are not alone. Close your eyes and ears to the malcontents, and you will see the true path that lies ahead of you.



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    @Playing With Fire Your links don't work for me.
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    I'll PM you if that's ok, I don't want them acessible to everyone.

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    Default Communication Styles Examples (Men)

    Here are some clear male examples. @Playing With Fire
    (I'll look for female ones later.)

     


     


     


     


    P.S: And yes, with several people you'll meet, their speech pattern won't be as obviously a particular CS as with those guys. ^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Here are some clear male examples.
    Aha, I see what you mean now.

    The "Sincere" example is the most similar to how I talk - breathy, silky and bemused, but with frequent changes in speed. My voice is just lower and has a wider range in volume. I perceived the other examples quite differently.

    The "Passionate" example seemed silly, scattered, nerdy, anxious and all over the place. Ugh. I switched off after a few seconds.

    The "Serious" example was pleasant to hear but a little reedy, dry and flat. Kind of low energy, perhaps.

    The "Business" example I had a neutral reaction to, neither here nor there. It did remind me of a stereotypical "presentation voice", loud, clear and logical.

    BTW, if anyone would like to have a voice chat this is a good time for me.
    Others around you will laugh at you and shame you. They will try to make you doubt yourself as they do. However, know that they only do this because they feel threatened by you. They know that you have a higher purpose, and out of jealousy seek to dissuade you from it. They will say: I am just trying to help you. I worry about you. I want the best for you. Do not listen to them. Trust in yourself; in your ability and in your destiny. It may be that for days, months and years, you feel utterly alone in the world, unloved, despised and powerless to change your situation. But you are not alone. Close your eyes and ears to the malcontents, and you will see the true path that lies ahead of you.



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    @Olimpia

    Thanks a lot

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    Ok, so impressions:

    -Can't stand Passionate, shut your mouth already

    -I'm melting at Sincere, soooooo cute I wanna pet them all day Basically every crush I ever had is of this style

    -Serious is painfully boring, I zone out in the first few seconds, can't focus at all

    -Business is pleasant, sounds alive enough but not too...whatever Passionate was. Sounds like someone I'd like to talk to
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    Example of my voice when reading something new to me.

    *removed*
    Last edited by Shay; 11-30-2017 at 09:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shay View Post
    Example of my voice when reading something new to me.

    https://vocaroo.com/i/s09UWR7B9e3U
    Lol, you sound sooo ILI, one of my ILI friends sounds exactly like you, only his voice is raspier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playing With Fire View Post
    Lol, you sound sooo ILI, one of my ILI friends sounds exactly like you, only his voice is raspier
    Thanks for your feedback :-)

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    @Shay

    Logical
    Introverted but Rational subtype
    Sensing vs iNtuition unclear
    Others around you will laugh at you and shame you. They will try to make you doubt yourself as they do. However, know that they only do this because they feel threatened by you. They know that you have a higher purpose, and out of jealousy seek to dissuade you from it. They will say: I am just trying to help you. I worry about you. I want the best for you. Do not listen to them. Trust in yourself; in your ability and in your destiny. It may be that for days, months and years, you feel utterly alone in the world, unloved, despised and powerless to change your situation. But you are not alone. Close your eyes and ears to the malcontents, and you will see the true path that lies ahead of you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shay View Post
    Example of my voice when reading something new to me.
    WHAT A NICE VOICE! HUUUUUU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    @Shay

    Logical
    Introverted but Rational subtype
    Sensing vs iNtuition unclear
    So since I haven't paid too much attention to subtypes I would think that the rational subtype for ILI would be Te-ILI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shay View Post
    So since I haven't paid too much attention to subtypes I would think that the rational subtype for ILI would be Te-ILI?
    Yeah.

    You can try me now.

    You might have to turn the sound down a bit though, I keep forgetting to. This recording will be more useful than the last one because it's stream of consciousness. It is me talking (and singing - I have to imagine the notes in my head) while I read some workbook material aloud and drink a beer intermittantly.

    https://vocaroo.com/i/s1T0lCc6uSV6
    Others around you will laugh at you and shame you. They will try to make you doubt yourself as they do. However, know that they only do this because they feel threatened by you. They know that you have a higher purpose, and out of jealousy seek to dissuade you from it. They will say: I am just trying to help you. I worry about you. I want the best for you. Do not listen to them. Trust in yourself; in your ability and in your destiny. It may be that for days, months and years, you feel utterly alone in the world, unloved, despised and powerless to change your situation. But you are not alone. Close your eyes and ears to the malcontents, and you will see the true path that lies ahead of you.



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    Hmm. I'm sure that I can get along with all styles. The main difference for me is workplace or leasure communication.

    At the workplace I prefer people that use the serious or business communication style, but in private I prefer the passionate and the sincere communication style in other people.
    I guess I don't prefer a specific CS in other people and the conclusion for me is: I prefer T types at workplace and F types in casual situations - or for relationships.

    Based on the examples Olimpia kindly privided I can not really relate to the serious CS. Makes me doubt if my CS match my socionics type.

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    Default Communication Styles Examples (Women)

    Here are some clear female examples.

     


     


     


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Based on the examples Olimpia kindly privided I can not really relate to the serious CS. Makes me doubt if my CS match my socionics type.
    Here is a good example of an LII-Ne voice.

    Because of the boosted Fe, the voice of an LII-Ne can lean a bit towards "Passionate" at times.

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    @Shay You do sound Serious.
    Your voice is a good example of that CS.

    It does seem like not too many people have studied the theory about the Communication Styles.
    I find it quite useful for typing, at least when it comes to those cases where someone's voice very clearly fits into one of the Styles.
    Of course there are people for whom it is more difficult to figure out their CS; due to subtype, or "overacting", or Enneagram, or Gender Roles etc.
    But still, when I type people, I do take into account their (most likely) Communication Style.

    For example, I used to think @Satan could be an introvert based on his posts on here, but then when I heard him in voice chat, his CS was clearly Passionate.
    @totalize sounds pretty much like Business (with a tiny superficial note of Passionate at times).
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    When it comes to compatibility, Business + Sincere and Passionate + Serious are the obvious best matches (following Duality theory).

    Basically, the best matches are F + T and E + I.

    Following that, the worst matches would actually have to be identical CS.
    As in, Sincere + Sincere, Passionate + Passionate, Serious + Serious, Business + Business.

    Because they do not provide any balance of F + T nor E + I.

    For the other matches in-between, I'd say it depends on subtype.

    The extroverted subtype would do better with the remaining CS that is introverted, and vice versa.
    The ethical subtype would do better with the remaining CS that is logical, and vice versa.

    Second best:

    ExI, xLE-xe, xEI-Fe with Serious.
    LxI, xEE-xe, xLI-Te, ExE-Fe with Sincere.
    ExE, xLI-xi, LxI-Ti, xEE-Fi with Business.
    LxE, ExI-Fi, xEI-xi, xLE-Ti with Passionate.
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    Instead of types, you discuss external traits without reasonable base to be strictly linked with Jung's types.

    Harrison Ford - LSE
    Lana Del Rey - EIE
    Angela Merkel - EIE
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Lana del rey as an extrovert? why do you type all 4s extroverts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Instead of types, you discuss external traits without reasonable base to be strictly linked with Jung's types.

    Harrison Ford - LSE
    Lana Del Rey - EIE
    Angela Merkel - EIE
    I think Harrison Ford is ISTx, Lana Del Rey ESI-Fi, and Angela Merkel SLI.
    The way they talk cements my typings, imo.

    You may disagree on the exact types, but I find it clear that Harrison Ford is IxTx, Lana IxFx, and Merkel IxTx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Harrison Ford - LSE
    I'd type him as LSI - >
    And he seems to enjoy activity, like flying planes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Lana Del Rey - EIE
    ExI imo - >

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Angela Merkel - EIE
    Ha ha. She is so awkward when she tries to use
    Really, no. She does not lead with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    You may disagree on the exact types, but I find it clear that Harrison Ford is IxTx, Lana IxFx, and Merkel IxTx.
    Yes, we may only disagree without ways to give clear proof. Like I can't explain that your own type is other, as all arguments will be too speculative.
    Harrison Ford was typed to LSE by me since 2004.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Yes, we may only disagree without ways to give clear proof. Like I can't explain that your own type is other, as all arguments will be too speculative.
    Harrison Ford was typed to LSE by me since 2004.
    And you don't see that this is a problem with socionics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    And you don't see that this is a problem with socionics?
    The problem is the hypothesis which can and needs to get the objective proof. Then we'll can give arguments which are not speculative. You could see I said about this problem many times. And even try to get this proof.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Y'all too afraid to type me?
    Others around you will laugh at you and shame you. They will try to make you doubt yourself as they do. However, know that they only do this because they feel threatened by you. They know that you have a higher purpose, and out of jealousy seek to dissuade you from it. They will say: I am just trying to help you. I worry about you. I want the best for you. Do not listen to them. Trust in yourself; in your ability and in your destiny. It may be that for days, months and years, you feel utterly alone in the world, unloved, despised and powerless to change your situation. But you are not alone. Close your eyes and ears to the malcontents, and you will see the true path that lies ahead of you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Here are some clear female examples.

     


     


     


     
    -Confirmed that I can't stand Passionate whatever the gender

    -Confirmed Sincere is my ultimate kryptonite


    -I love Angela and her voice/talking style I love German people, period.


    -Don't like Amy but her speaking style is really good

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