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    Any ideas on his type? If you're not familiar with his writing, you can read samples at http://www.rawilson.com/thoughts.html













    RAW quotes:

    "There are periods of history when the visions of madmen and dope fiends are a better guide to reality than the common-sense interpretation of data available to the so-called normal mind. This is one such period, if you haven't noticed already."

    "Most of our ancestors were not perfect ladies and gentlemen. The majority of them weren't even mammals."

    "It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea."

    "There is no governor anywhere; you are all absolutely free. There is no restraint that cannot be escaped. We are all absolutely free. If everybody could go into dhyana at will, nobody could be controlled — by fear of prison, by fear of whips or electroshock, by fear of death, even. All existing society is based on keeping those fears alive, to control the masses. Ten people who know would be more dangerous than a million armed anarchists."

    "The basic technique of all my books. Ontology is the study of being; the guerrilla approach is to so mix the elements of each book that the reader must decide on each page 'How much of this is real and how much is a put-on?'" - on Guerrilla ontology

    "A true initiation never ends."

    "Following Korzybski, I put things in probabilities, not absolutes... My only originality lies in applying this zetetic attitude outside the hardest of the hard sciences, physics, to softer sciences and then to non-sciences like politics, ideology, jury verdicts and, of course, conspiracy theory."'

    "All phenomena are real in some sense, unreal in some sense, meaningless in some sense, real and meaningless in some sense, unreal and meaningless in some sense, and real and unreal and meaningless in some sense."

    ""Is," "is." "is" — the idiocy of the word haunts me. If it were abolished, human thought might begin to make sense. I don't know what anything "is"; I only know how it seems to me at this moment."

    "Comparative religion and philosophy show that the Thinker can regard itself as mortal, as immortal, as both mortal and immortal (the reincarnation model) or even as non-existent (Buddhism). It can think itself into living in a Christian universe, a Marxist universe, a scientific-relativistic universe, or a Nazi universe — among many possibilities."

    ""Mind" is a tool invented by the universe to see itself; but it can never see all of itself, for much the same reason that you can’t see your own back (without mirrors)."

    "I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions."

    "Conspiracy is just another name for coalition."

    "Everybody who has ever worked for a corporation knows that corporations conspire all the time. Politicians conspire all the time, pot-dealers conspire not to get caught by the narcs, the world is full of conspiracies. Conspiracy is natural primate behavior."

    "Every war results from the struggle for markets and spheres of influence, and every war is sold to the public by professional liars and totally sincere religious maniacs, as a Holy Crusade to save God and Goodness from Satan and Evil."

    "The creative faculty, the god-power, is not used here with anything less than literalness. When beauty was created by a godly mind, beauty existed, as surely as the paintings of Botticelli or the concerti of Vivaldi exist. When mercy was created, mercy existed. When guilt was created, guilt existed. Out of a meaningless and pointless existence, we have made meaning and purpose; but since this creative act happens only when we relax after great strain, we feel it as 'pouring into us' from elsewhere. Thus, we do not know our own godhood and we are perpetually swindled by those who assure us that it is indeed elsewhere, but they can give us access to it, for a reasonable fee. And when we as a species were ignorant enough to be duped in that way, the swindlers went one step further, invented original sin and other horrors of that sort, and made us even more 'dependent' upon them."
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    He looks like an ENTP even though I'm hardly an expert on VI, but I notice ENTPs seem to have a particularly large space between their eyes and a wide but oval face.

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    This thread has too few responses for such a fascinating and exasperating thinker. What is the consensus on his type? ILE?

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    Some irrational, but I'm not sure ILE.

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    he looks sle to me.

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    Mainly Ni, Ti, & Te, with a little Fe, Fi & Se.
    This guy really knows his shit too... I've been reading his website. I'm gona buy some of these books.
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    i havent read any of his stuff but i see his quotes here and there and to me they are romantic/intriguing and interesting to reflect on but miss the mark when it comes to getting at the truth which is pretty typical of my impression of a lot of beta philosophizing.

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    I've read most of his books, articles, watched his documentary. He's interesting in quite a few ways and some of his fiction is pretty awesome. He's the single biggest influence on me since the age of 23 when I first heard of him. (not the weird mystical stuff btw). He has one particular book that may be of interest to some of you: Prometheus Rising. It's non-fiction and also the only non-fiction book of his I'd highly recommend. It's an easy book to read and took me about about two days to finish. I no longer have my copy but whoever has it now is bitching about the previous owner's liberal use of highlighters and margin-note-taking.

    It's best not to judge him as a nutcase or irrational or a conspiracy theorist or mystic, since his non-fiction writing tends to read like a lightly edited stream of consciousness session. He's usually attempting to draw from a great many disciplines and individual thinkers and creating a coherent interdisciplinary big picture so he's obligated to generalize quite a bit - a necessary evil when creating amalgamations meant for lil' paperback books.

    “Every fact of science was once damned. Every invention was considered impossible. Every discovery was a nervous shock to some orthodoxy. Every artistic innovation was denounced as fraud and folly. The entire web of culture and ‘progress,’ everything on earth that is man-made and not given to us by nature, is the concrete manifestation of some man’s refusal to bow to Authority. We would own no more, know no more, and be no more than the first apelike hominids if it were not for the rebellious, the recalcitrant, and the intransigent. As Oscar Wilde truly said, ‘Disobedience was man’s Original Virtue.”

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    Robert Anton Wilson is ENFj-Ni.

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