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    Groups with numbers are people of one type.
    When watching examples, evaluate your intuitive impressions from their nonverbal - how generalized image from people of one type corresponds with the criterion of your "friendly sympathy and psychic comfort", rather than personal alienation.
    Use examples only of other sex (which causes romantic passion), >= 3 examples per type (if the quantity allows), for every example watch >= 2 clips, every clip for several minutes with good seen face. The more you'll watch, the more correct will be generalized impression from the type. Note: for types' sorting use only the criterion above, not sexual or romantic interest.
    Arrange all 16 types in order corresponding to the criterion from the most to the least. Don't select groups of types - full sorting of all types is needed.
    When comparing types don't think for long time, - make the choice by intuitive inspiration.
    Watching and sorting of types can be done in several days, but in the last day of the final sorting you need to slightly refresh the impressions of previously watched types.

    Don't open(!) the key until you'll finish the sorting of types. Only then it's acceptable to see what types correspond to the numbers. After opening the key and until the end of the analysis, you should not rearrange the types.


    01

    Aleksandr Dugin


    Denis Doropej (doropey)


    Dmitrij Shamov (AnchousJap)


    Coulthard's Channel (EmperorDC)


    Bogdan Ligeza


    Yekaterina Abramenko (07vredinka)


    ASMR Lesia


    ASMR Sova


    Alina Pastuhova (Ali Asmr)


    ASMR Sensation


    TheASMRAngel


    Kate Hill (khthsp2233)


    Amal Dabit (amalzd)


    Annam Ahmad (blancanvasmakeup)


    Cosmic Tingles ASMR (KaylaSuzette)


    SouthernASMR Sounds


    Holly Henry (hollymaezers)


    AndressASMR


    02

    Maksim Martsinkevich (TesakNS)


    Grigorij Sokolov (grigoryi1)


    Dmitrij Sherstkof


    Yurij Boldyrev (YuriBoldyrev)


    Yevgenij Kolesov (kolesovevgeny)


    Ruslan Sokolovskij


    Video Blog Tech


    Mariya Goryachova (Maha Goryachova)


    Anastasiya Smirnova (Ximera Smirnova)


    Svetlana Kroj (ASMR Svetlana Kroy)


    03

    Nikolaj Gubanov (PxlDevil)


    Ruslan Kim


    Vadim Vadimych MUR


    Fyodor Nechitajlo (fedorcomix)


    Dmitrij Malikov (DmitryMalikov)


    Russell Brand (russellbrand)


    a-bas-le-ciel (HeiJinZhengZhi)


    Anna Pronina (TheAnnaPronina)


    Galina Zolotoryova (zzzZzGalyushazZzzz)


    karamelka0989


    GentleWhispering


    Nataliya Reznikova (Sun599155)


    Indira Hushniyarova (indirapearl)


    Irina Kuzmina (TheIrinaKuzmina)


    Svetlana Votinova (svetavotinova0603)


    Galina Koksharova (WhiteChocolate0292)


    otherCholiCholiam


    Tatyana Karetnikova


    Shtukensia


    ulielie


    Olga Miklashevskaya (ZPonedelnik)


    Yekaterina Valeyeva (BobCat TV)


    Sati Kazanova (KazanovaSati)


    Karina Kasparyants


    elena864


    Mira [from 1:10]


    Julia ASMR


    Marielle's life


    theangelikashow


    Sofiya Aslanyan (TheSonya140586)


    ASMRnaya


    Nadezhda Filatova (niveaaaaa1)


    Jess Lizama (exoticjess)


    Rosanna Pansino (RosannaPansino)


    Julieta Ramirez (motivateconSANDRA)


    Kailey Ann (QueenSahperia)


    homeveda


    luhhsettyxo


    Asmr Maria ZB


    Gwen Swinarton (gwenswinarton)


    Totally Tori


    simply_kenna (McKaelinn)


    Whitewinterwhispers


    Bonny Rebecca


    04

    Andrej Nyashnyj (urbanturizm)


    Yurij Dud (vDud) [right]


    Per Fredrik (pellekofficial2)


    Tim Ferriss (masterlock77)


    Yuliya Vysotskaya (VysotskayaJulia)


    Senya Miro (SenyaAndreevna)


    lenalisa33


    jellybeanasmr


    05

    Aleksej Durnev


    Sergej Kurginyan (eotsuVideo)


    Andrej Fursov (systeemtheorie)


    Pavel Grinyov (Kinaman88)


    Konstantin Ivanov (irkutsk2mailru)


    Yelena Krygina (elenakrygina)


    Katya Klep (TheKateClapp)


    Anastasiya Samburskaya


    Mariya Zaulovskaya


    KatiaRumyanka


    Victoria and Family


    Natasha Shelyagina (canwebeafamily)


    MalvinaMoney


    Lyubov Shipilova


    Alyona Vorontsova


    Margarita Rudskaya (ikolyuchka)


    Jenny Nicholson


    06

    Ilya Meddison (Maddyblog)


    Ivan (Sweet Home)


    Andrej Hestanov (TheDRZJ)


    Boris Yulin


    Vsevolod Chaplin


    Aleksej Navalnyj (NavalnyRu)


    Jimmy Kimmel (JimmyKimmelLive)


    Yekaterina Korolyova (KateQueen1989)


    Ida Galich


    Yuliya Vasilevskaya (vasilyevskaya)


    Aleksandra Demidova (aleksandrademidova)


    Liliya Hajrullina (Liliya Beauty World)


    Loony Deliria (LilithKore)


    Teal Swan (TheSpiritualCatalyst)


    emilynoel83


    ASMRrequests


    Kayleigh Noelle (ForeverYours0727)


    07

    Timur Protskij


    HandOfGod1981


    Pavel Volya (PavelVolyaOfficial)


    Andrej Chikov (AndreyNTG)


    Anton Skald


    SensorAdi ASMR


    UnicornReviewsYT


    Alina Charova


    softlygaloshes


    Saskia Pritchard (Love Saskia)


    08

    Mihail Koklyayev (koklyaevmisha)


    Vladimir Maslennikov (rusdamask)


    Stas (Ya tak Reshil)


    vininull


    Aleksandr Sokolov (itsSokolOff)


    Andrej Nifyodov (MicroPrikol)


    Shura Karetnyj


    Anton Logvinov (fxigr1)


    Hodgetwins (askhodgetwins)


    Hardware Unboxed


    Anastasiya Yeryomina (TheNastyaCake)


    NeastieIceASMR


    Alina Solopova (alinasolopova1)


    TheOneLilium ASMR


    ASMR Kitten


    Chloe Zadori
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    Vitas Mitskus (Zulinsvlog)


    Anatolij Sharij (SuperSharij)


    Oleg Grigorev (rukremov)


    Maksim Golopolosov (MoranDays)


    Ivan Maslakov (Vanomas)


    Aleksandr Tihomirov


    PewDiePie


    Graham Phillips (gwplondon)


    Charlie (Charisma on Command)


    W2S (wroetoshaw)


    KateLi0n


    wzr0713


    Olga Kay (olgakay)


    MakeupbyMandy24


    Kalel Kitten


    Kawaii Kunicorn


    10

    Dmitrij Ivanov (kamikadzedead)


    Stas Satori (ikakProsto)


    Dmitry Novoselov (HardwareCanucks)


    Mia ASMR


    Dasha Tsenter


    ValeriyaASMR


    Lizaonair


    11

    Vavuha


    Andrej Ponkratov


    Yevgenij Bazhenov (EvgenComedian)


    Ilias Merkuri


    Dmitrij Melash


    Yeti521454


    Sergej Volchkov (volchkovsergey)


    Mihail Kozhuhov (MKtravelclub)


    Anton Volovikov (ProKompy s Antohoj Dobrym)


    Ildar Habibullin (Priyatnyj Ildar)


    Nikolaj Sobolev


    WhisperMister1


    skagirl1702


    Swasti Ji (TheZlataGolden)


    Yuliya Terehina (Worldinside)


    JyuusanKaidan


    Tali Rose


    12

    Dmitrij Bachilo (BachiloDmitry)


    Arsen Yakubov (The05ru)


    LADYLENAtur


    VladaMalV


    Irina Volynets


    RobinaHoodina


    MakeUpKaty


    Yelena Shejdlina (Tarry1994)


    Alena Bardovskaya


    Katya Tyan (Katyusha Tyan)


    Marina Tom


    Yuliya Godunova


    Katie McBroom (KatherineLoretta)


    Jenna Mourey (JennaMarbles)


    UnlimitedElizabeth


    Zoella (zoella280390)


    Jessica Nigri (jessicanigri)


    alinaindep


    Ryma Beauty (princess16M94)


    Brittney Brombacher (Britt5091)


    ASMRsoundandnoises


    Milla Dumas


    Rebecca Milan


    Alicia Fairclough (MyOnlineHypno)


    Andrea Matillano (AndreaMatillano)


    13

    Denis Vasilev (DenvasTV)


    Yulik (JuliusSpeak)


    Irina Belka (iraBelkaTV)


    12sotok


    Lina Lichman


    Zhanna Frejd


    Kseniya Tsibulnikova (Angelofreniya)


    ASMR Cosmonaut


    Rebecca Black (rebecca)


    KathleenLights


    Allison Raskin [left] (justbetweenus)


    Olivia's Kissper (OliviaKissperASMR)


    ShaelinWrites (ShaeTheWordNerd)


    14

    Tim Kirby (tkirby3679)


    Wylsacom


    MissBeautyrella


    Rima Pendzhiyeva (rimapendgieva)


    Yekaterina Katelin (Catelin777)


    AlisanRose


    Anna Lysenko (AnnaLbIsenko)


    Alisa Feoktistova


    Oxana Dolinka


    Nastya Rubik (nastyarubik)


    Jenny Bingham (thatjennybee)


    SSSniperWolf


    MissASMR (videomissasmr)


    Little Cat


    Bella ASMR


    Erikioba


    Mariale (makeuplocalypse)


    WhisperAudios ASMR


    15

    Dmitrij Puchkov (Fletcher2008)


    Nikolaj Starikov (nstarikov)


    Igor Chernyshev (ISVir)


    Anatolij Vasserman (Vassermansru)


    Mariya Kamova (Mash Milash)


    VPencilBox


    Alisha Marie (macbby11)


    16

    Oleg Lyashko


    Aleksandr Popov (socioneru)


    Yurij Hovanskij (russianstandup)


    Vladimir Zhirinovskij


    Andrej Kochergin (Koicombat1)


    Aleksej Shevtsov (itpediachannel)


    BRIG man (BRIGmanMINE)


    V poiskah zolota! (TF4100Fi)


    Eldar Dzharahov (dzharakhov)


    Craig Ferguson (Antonio FergusonFan)


    Matt Lieberman (matthewdlieberman)


    Jayztwocents


    Elric Phares (Tech of Tomorrow)


    ASMR Daniel


    Viktoriya Isayeva (VictoriaIsaeva)


    vasesyariy


    Yekaterina Ilyinyh (Katyaworld)


    Yulisa Famina (Life In Hollywood)


    Sasha Spilberg (SaySasha)


    Darya Lozhkina (Darya Lozhkina ASMR)


    Irina Farion


    ASMRmania


    Alunika Dobrovolskaya (Alunika Dobrovolski)


    Yelena Olkova (4kvadra)


    Veronika Stepanova


    Katy Duft


    Katerina Kho


    osia2013


    Lena Luciez


    Yana Mon (YanaJamnJelly)


    EricaOnToast


    Ocean Heart ASMR


    Miss Synchronicity (kays876)



    Methods of analysis and secondary sortings
    During the sorting of 16 types you find a common in 4 top types and then in 4 bottom ones, as well as in the upper and lower halves of the sorting. Helps to identify types with good and bad IR, dichotomies and valued functions.

    Additionally may be compared pairs of types with the same dominant functions: Te versus Ti, Fe versus Fi, Se versus Si, Ne versus Ni types. Similar may be done for types with the same second function.
    May be found people of what types are more intriguing as persons, while other are perceived as more trivial by dichotomies: T versus F, S versus N, E versus I. For J / P to find which types are more understandable and personally closer, while other are more alien.
    May be found which of 2 versions of own type is more likely by comparing the types (or their sets) which are in good IR with one version while in bad IR with other. For example, to choose between LSE and LSI may be used the comparision: EII versus EIE.



    Key
    01 EII / INFJ
    02 LSI / ISTJ
    03 IEI / INFP
    04 LIE / ENTJ
    05 ILI / INTP
    06 SLE / ESTP
    07 LII / INTJ
    08 SEE / ESFP
    09 ILE / ENTP
    10 LSE / ESTJ
    11 ESI / ISFJ
    12 SEI / ISFP
    13 IEE / ENFP
    14 ESE / ESFJ
    15 SLI / ISTP
    16 EIE / ENFJ
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    Test is useful as secondary typing method.
    If you want to share your results with the use then you need to give me your video-interview so I'd could to check the correctness of your type.

    Don't post anywhere on the forum numbers of the key of this test! Only types.
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    sounds like an interesting way to type. have you used it with others irl or other forums? if so how accurate would say is this test?

    still I noticed many videos aren't in English for example I didn't see any English video in group 2 so should we just skip it or wait for new videos?

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    I'll try to look at this (I'm 100% sure on my typing btw if that helps).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    But I haven't given you video...
    INFj / EII / FiNe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This could take me weeks to do! It's like you are giving me a job.

    "When I ought to be thinking of heaven he will nail me to earth"

     





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    @Sol is it ok if we just order the groups in terms of preference?
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    Wow.. this was interesting indeed... it took me a while to watch all the videos of the boys, and in the end I got a real common vibe between the people of those groups, with my surprise, I guessed their types most of the times!! I've only watched the boys and recognized mainly one of the 2 functions...

    I didn't recognize my type at all, and I was way off with SLE, that I thought were Fi lol... EIIS, IEIs, and LSEs I've found kind of boring to watch.. the ones I liked the most were ISTJs and ENTJs, ISFJs too, the others left me quite indifferent..

    I liked that it wasn't in English, so I could focus more on the overall vibe, although it even gets boring soon because you have no idea of what they're on about... My attention even started to fade after the first 6 types, and my scores too.. very interesting anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    But I haven't given you video...
    Video would be useful. You may sort without it, but if results will not fit to theory than the possibility of wrong type will stay unclear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    This could take me weeks to do! It's like you are giving me a job.
    Think about this like about game. If you'll get IR fitting to INFP - we have won. If not - you'll stay with pleasant memories.
    I'm trying to find the way to prove duality hypothesis. Probably, you take part in a history moment.
    About 3 days should be enough to do the test without overstrain - ~2 hours per day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    I'll try to look at this (I'm 100% sure on my typing btw if that helps).
    ISTJ seems ok for you. The result will be interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    is it ok if we just order the groups in terms of preference?
    1. the sorting should be done by recommended way by the criterion above
    2. to understand how the method works I need the video. it's not obligate as if you'll get IR fit to current type version - you should notice this. but as the test is raw - the noises may make the result not so clear and it would be useful to check what is real type. also sometimes I got strange results - not random, but strange (like some placed at top types similar to their own and disliked opposite club including duals/activators/etc).

    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    I guessed their types most of the times!
    you may name types where our opinions have matched

    > I didn't recognize my type at all, and I was way off with SLE, that I thought were Fi lol... EIIS, IEIs, and LSEs I've found kind of boring to watch.. the ones I liked the most were ISTJs and ENTJs, ISFJs too, the others left me quite indifferent..

    If you'll send me by pm video-interview, I'll can understand the results. The format of types sorting is a simple sequence of types through commas.

    > My attention even started to fade after the first 6 types, and my scores too..

    It's better to take a rest when you become tired during the testing.
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    @Sol you are probably a 1 in the Enneagram.
    Here are some advice for you:


    • Learn to relax. Take some time for yourself, without feeling that everything is up to you or that what you do not accomplish will result in chaos and disaster. Mercifully, the salvation of the world does not depend on you alone, even though you may sometimes feel it does.
    • You have a lot to teach others and are probably a good teacher, but do not expect others to change immediately. What is obvious to you may not be as obvious to them, especially if they are not used to being as self-disciplined and objective about themselves as you are about yourself. Many people may also want to do what is right and may agree with you in principle but for various reasons simply cannot change right away. The fact that others do not change immediately according to your prescriptions does not mean that they will not change sometime in the future. Your words and above all, your example may do more good than you realize, although they may take longer than you expect. So have patience.
    • It is easy for you to work yourself up into a lather about the wrongdoings of others. And it may sometimes be true that they are wrong. But what is it to you? Your irritation with them will do nothing to help them see another way of being. Similarly, beware of your constant irritation with your own "shortcomings." Does your own harsh self-criticism really help you to improve? Or does it simply make you tense, nervous, and self-doubting? Learn to recognize the attacks of your superego and how they undermine rather than help you.
    • It is important for you to get in touch with your feelings, particularly your unconscious impulses. You may find that you are uneasy with your emotions and your sexual and aggressive impulses—in short, with the messy human things that make us human. It might be beneficial to keep a journal or to get into some kind of group therapy or other group work both to develop your emotions and to see that others will not condemn you for having human needs and limitations.
    • Your Achilles' heel is your self-righteous anger. You get angry easily and are offended by what seems to you to be the perverse refusal of others to do the right thing—as you have defined it. Try to step back and see that your anger alienates people so that they cannot hear many of the good things you have to say. Further, your own repressed anger may well be giving you an ulcer or high blood pressure and is a harbinger of worse things to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    Sol you are probably a 1 in the Enneagram.
    Rather general for teacher roles. Thanks, anyway.

    > get into some kind of group therapy

    duality "therapy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    duality
    You're pathetic if you actually think there is a perfect match out there for everyone that is going to "save" you.

    In believing in that fairy-tale you're ruining for yourself and not living to your full potential because people use it as an excuse, which is why socionics and duality is complete bs. I do not care for "teaching" others, that's awfully unattractive in people, when they can't handle their own. As I see it, everyone is alone, "life is a mystery, everyone must stand alone". I generally could not care less what other people do but if they're preaching their fairy-tales right infront of me like this...well online.
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    I'm quite skeptical about this way of testing.

    First of all, I find it very uninteresting (it's not meant as an offense, just my impression). Actually, I prefer to test ITR in real life, which is more effective (and useful). I mean, you should interact with others rather than watch hours and hours of boring YouTube videos. That way, you can also practice your Socionics skills (typing others, discover which IE is being used). Also, we can't tell if people in the videos are correctly typed. This makes everything even more complicated.
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    I wish I could upload a picture of the page where I've written my impressions, but my technology level is a bit compromised lately so I can't.

    It's rather long, I didn't focus on what types I thought the groups would be, I just wrote next to each boy I saw what element they resembled most, and what impressions I had of them. Then I added a smiley next to each group, with the vibe Ihad of them... I've given 3 moods: happy, sad and neutral.

    Happy moods were for ISTJ only. Sad for INFP, ISFP, ESFJ, and ISTP. All the other were neutral...
    I've added 2 hearts next to people I liked best, for their poses, one was ISTJ, the other ENTJ.
    Most cool people were the INTJ, I really thought "how cool is he!", with each of them, but I don't really enjoy that too much.
    I would have never suspected I could think of Fi to look like Se, but all the comments to the ESTP I have are just saying "Fi", and despite that, they didn't really give me much of an effect.
    I though as well that ISFJ were ESTP lol, I really liked the grumpy vibe of the guys in the videos and I wrote Se next to all the ISFJ.
    I've put a lot of "boring" comments to INFJS lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    I'm quite skeptical about this way of testing.

    First of all, I find it very uninteresting (it's not meant as an offense, just my impression). Actually, I prefer to test ITR in real life, which is more effective (and useful). I mean, you should interact with others rather than watch hours and hours of boring YouTube videos. That way, you can also practice your Socionics skills (typing others, discover which IE is being used). Also, we can't tell if people in the videos are correctly typed. This makes everything even more complicated.
    I watched the videos and the people that are supposed to be the same type are pretty different (i'll think one example is okay, then the other hell no), but on the other hand all of these types listed are similar. Like sp/so's. There's 0 social lasts there. Probably no 4 or 5s. All just average, boring people. I think that's Sol's style. Boring and average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Use examples only of other sex (which causes romantic passion)

    This won't stop us gays



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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    I'm quite skeptical about this way of testing.

    First of all, I find it very uninteresting (it's not meant as an offense, just my impression). Actually, I prefer to test ITR in real life, which is more effective (and useful). I mean, you should interact with others rather than watch hours and hours of boring YouTube videos. That way, you can also practice your Socionics skills (typing others, discover which IE is being used). Also, we can't tell if people in the videos are correctly typed. This makes everything even more complicated.
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    I watched quite a few of these videos when you posted them on a thread before, Sol, and recognize them, and remember their Types. It seems you've added some new people, though. I wish I didn't know what any of their types were. If I remembered a previous person as being in a certain group, I then know the rest are typed that way. When I have time in the near future, I will watch the rest. Here's a video that I posted of myself. I posted one before and it seemed you were leaning ESI for me then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    think there is a perfect match out there for everyone that is going to "save" you.
    What I think is duality as strong factor for good love relations and for possibility to give psychic support/correction in them, what would allow people to "live with more full potential" and happier. While bad IR will suppress your potential.
    My experience (personal and of people I typed) fits IR theory good, that's the main reason I like the typology. While skeptics need experience of good and bad IR for comparision to understand duality theory.
    Besides duality, not bad for relations are activation, semi-duality. Other IR are significantly worse and some are just hard.

    Interesting thing is, partly similar ideas to your Enneagram text was recently said to me by ESI girl. There is some sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    Happy moods were for ISTJ only.
    There is a possibility of F extraverted type for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    This won't stop us gays
    I've noticed that people of different sexes may be perceived differently by the used criterion. People of own sex are perceived as soul friends in lesser degree, while as colleagues in more. As this may affect the sorting, I've entered that condition.
    For how test works on "gays" I have only hypothesis of analogy, which I used in the recommendations.

    Quote Originally Posted by reverie View Post
    I wish I didn't know what any of their types were.
    You may use the test even when know what types are there. This only will need more honesty with yourself and better to watch more clips/time to get similarly correct result. IR will work, anyway, - they are objective.

    > I posted one before and it seemed you were leaning ESI for me then.

    I remember that got rather mixed impressions from you. Base Fi was and stay as leading possibility.
    You remind me Russian actress which is often thought as ESI - Valentina Telichkina (1, 2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    I'm quite skeptical about this way of testing.

    First of all, I find it very uninteresting (it's not meant as an offense, just my impression).
    offense taken
    maybe this way of testing isn't very reliable since one person may like some of type x and hate the rest, also maybe the subject isn't interesting, etc. however I think @Sol is trying to filter out those NTR issues by you watching more videos since in average you should give a higher ranking for good IR than that of bad IR

    the problem is as you said there is no interaction since videos only offer a one-sided delivery so you don't actually judge the friction between you and the one on the video, instead you intuitively judge whether or not you think there would be a good/bad friction based on your past experiences with people with similar vibe but since I read that from a distance a conflictor is more attractive than a dual, then your intuitive judgement may not really be trustworthy as in by watching videos you like your conflictor but if you interact with them you would go for a dual.

    but even though I am skeptical I still think it is interesting

    That way, you can also practice your Socionics skills (typing others, discover which IE is being used).
    the problem here is you may link certain actions with the wrong IE or type & then your future typings will be based on a wrong association. I think when trying to type others irl one should be with an expert to act as a measurement tool for your skills and provide feedback about the things you seem to have trouble with so you will avoid making wrong associations
    but I don't think it is a very practical idea, I mean it is not like socionics experts are available everywhere

    Also, we can't tell if people in the videos are correctly typed. This makes everything even more complicated.
    they may not be typed correctly, but since they were typed by the same person the typings should be consistent in some way at least

    Quote Originally Posted by maniac View Post
    I watched the videos and the people that are supposed to be the same type are pretty different (i'll think one example is okay, then the other hell no)
    I think @Sol focus mainly on the nonverbal clues only, so maybe if you try to type them while considering the verbal as well you will get different typings.
    I haven't really watched more than 3 videos (first few seconds each) so far, so I don't know

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    @Sol I like the idea but I'm super busy these days finishing my dissertation so I'll take a look at it when everything's finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fay View Post
    I like the idea but I'm super busy these days finishing my dissertation so I'll take a look at it when everything's finished.
    There are no limits of time. Wish you luck with the dissertation.

    @Andreas
    Please remove the table as it opens the key if will be writen types behind those numbers. Without opening the key it's impossible to make analysis in your situation.
    Instead - make a simple list of types sorted by your ranks.
    Also you may make a video to understand your type, not just to say where point your IR with the examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I've noticed that people of different sexes may be perceived differently by the used criterion. People of own sex are perceived as soul friends in lesser degree, while as colleagues in more. As this may affect the sorting, I've entered that condition.
    For how test works on "gays" I have only hypothesis of analogy, which I used in the recommendations.


    ... yeah and my name is Robbie Rotten and I live in Lazy Town. Greetings! We actually don't have these types of false assumptions and faulty testing methods in our city. Please visit!

    Okay the gays are a hypothesis but for heteros it's perfectly clear how it works I'll wait until ya sorted your stuff out! You better work honey. You better work.


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    @what's your type Andreas?
    @Sol, this was one of the best socionics test I've ever seen, congrats for bringing it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    We actually don't have these types of false assumptions and faulty testing methods in our city
    Make video, I'll say your type, you'll do IR test and ONLY then you'll get basis to decide about its quality.
    Until you'll create typing theme with your video-interview, there are no reasons to discuss IR test with you. Your type may be other than you think.

    > for heteros it's perfectly clear how it works

    Works like I said: people of own sex are sorted lesser close to IR theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    this was one of the best socionics test I've ever seen, congrats for bringing it up!
    If results of people typed by me will be close to IR theory - then not bad test. In many cases sortings are strange. If clips were better then results could be better, I suppose. At now, even not all combinations of type-sex fit to recommended minumum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Make video, I'll say your type, you'll do IR test and ONLY then you'll get basis to decide about its quality.
    Until you'll create typing theme with your video-interview, there are no reasons to discuss IR test with you. Your type may be other than you think.

    > for heteros it's perfectly clear how it works

    Works like I said: people of own sex are sorted lesser close to IR theory.
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    Yep Sol, you need to improve this, add some English videos and more varied scenes, it's boring to see most of those guys talking alone about god knows what... eheh, after 2 one is done!

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    @Sol

    I hate your way of being "superior" to all of us. And I'm still waiting for evidence that you're more "competent" than the majority of people here. What I've seen so far is someone who types people by gut feeling and isn't able to explain his decision. It sounds like some kind of unhealthy Ni Lead who is pretending to have super powers. And my Ni Demonstrative just can't stand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    you need to improve this, add some English videos
    The language for nonverbal is not important, the words will only distract.

    > and more varied scenes, it's boring to see most of those guys talking alone

    Boring is caused by similar conditions - this helps easier to see the difference and to feel the common. Also you lesser distract on external stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    the problem here is you may link certain actions with the wrong IE or type & then your future typings will be based on a wrong association. I think when trying to type others irl one should be with an expert to act as a measurement tool for your skills and provide feedback about the things you seem to have trouble with so you will avoid making wrong associations
    but I don't think it is a very practical idea, I mean it is not like socionics experts are available everywhere
    Maybe wrong associations but you can correct them when you notice inconsistencies. You just have to be up for refining things ...and eventually go beyond Socionics's framework

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    The language for nonverbal is not important, the words will only distract.

    > and more varied scenes, it's boring to see most of those guys talking alone

    Boring is caused by similar conditions - this helps easier to see the difference and to feel the common. Also you lesser distract on external stuff.
    Is it a problem if I only watch one clip per example? You linked only one clip for each and it's not always easy to find a second one, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Maybe wrong associations but you can correct them when you notice inconsistencies. You just have to be up for refining things ...and eventually go beyond Socionics's framework
    But most people don't like (or even fear) re-examining their understanding
    It is not very pleasant to admit you were wrong so many avoid considering that they could be wrong specially if they had that biased understanding for a long time their pride doesn't let them admit being wrong I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Is it a problem if I only watch one clip per example?
    Any violation of recommendations is a problem. It will unpredictably reduce the validity of the testing.
    I prefer to type with several clips by nonverbal info - it's based on my experience where impressions differ with lesser possibility with the more clips I saw. Here we have similar situation - you are using nonverbal for reading info related to a type.

    > You linked only one clip for each and it's not always easy to find a second one, apparently.

    Every link leads to a clip on a channel, - you may open other blogger's clip there. It's not so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Any violation of recommendations is a problem. It will unpredictably reduce the validity of the testing.
    I prefer to type with several clips by nonverbal info - it's based on my experience where impressions differ with lesser possibility with the more clips I saw. Here we have similar situation - you are using nonverbal for reading info related to a type.

    > You linked only one clip for each and it's not always easy to find a second one, apparently.

    Every link leads to a clip on a channel, - you may open other blogger's clip there. It's not so hard.
    Eh, I ran into the issue of not finding another clip pretty early on. But I'll just skip the ones that don't have an easy to find 2nd clip, then.

    And sure, I asked because I don't want to mess with the validity. (Not that I'm not skeptical but I don't mind trying to help with the project.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    But most people don't like (or even fear) re-examining their understanding
    It is not very pleasant to admit you were wrong so many avoid considering that they could be wrong specially if they had that biased understanding for a long time their pride doesn't let them admit being wrong I guess
    True that some people don't like to face cognitive dissonance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    There is a possibility of F extraverted type for you.
    Ok... I don't know where I've read it but the idea anyway was that duals don't send an such an attractive vibe to each other? Like they can even ignore each other from a distance and only start realizing they're duals after much interacting...that's pretty much what happened to me with ESTJ videos, they're the ones I skipped fastest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Eh, I ran into the issue of not finding another clip pretty early on.
    On which bloggers? I always try to check is it hard to find other clips with good seen face on a channel. This should not take more than 1 min.

    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    I don't know where I've read it but the idea anyway was that duals don't send an such an attractive vibe to each other?
    Duals/semi-duals have rather interesting and pleasant personality. The more interesting than duals are only conflictors, but they are trouble to deal close. I'm talking about duals of opposite sex.
    If you'll place a video, I'll think about your type and you'll understand how duals affect you. Your behavior is closer to F-E types, you are not quiet and calm person - not phlegmatic what seems most I-J types are.

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