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    Cool. I picked out the LSI and SLE people right away - intuitively. I was on my cell phone, so I only clicked on any video in any group that caught my interest and looked mostly at demeanor and what I wanted to click on. It was a no-contest win for my dual and activator. When I got home I made a full out list (although I had already picked out two groups I liked, SLE and LSI, which I remembered) and I still agreed with myself. I did not remember any of the other types however, so the list was as good as new, as though I never saw the key at all.
    That said: I was going to post it but I can't. The repulsion ones are too mean (I wrote my honest reaction) and I don't want to hurt any feelings. So here's my summary.

    Both times, I was most repulsed by Si egos and Deltas.
    No offense; y'all are not necessarily repulsive irl but I was going with my turn-on instinct.
    There's something about them that feels 'dirty.' It is probably the Si Earthiness which really does nothing for me. I also found Ne egos kind of... forced. And boring. This is, of course, on QUICK impression. I made a point not to think or to look for too long and just to listen to my gut.
    One LIE guy was hot, the hot blond. But not the rest. That guy was probably too 'classically hot' for the list. Most of the other people were not particularly good looking but I went by hunches on personality.
    Regarding the LIE: my husband is also a classically hot blond. For a second I compared them, but I told my husband, basically, they're not the same. This is the type of guy I would obsess over, but he would never talk to me - he would be too good for me. Even if he found me hot, he would try to 'fix me' and mold me into something I would never want to be, or be able to be. I told him - I know it, because that's how guys like this act toward me. Funny, it ended up being my supervisor.
    I found the LSI's super intriguing, mesmerizing. I love their pop-out eyes and the bubbling emotion underneath the surface cool... they strike me as so sensitive, though others may not see it that way. The SLE's however felt the most real of any type, as if they were impressive and interesting but without trying too hard.
    I had a strong reaction to the IEIs... like a "who do you think you're fooling with that cutesy act?" ... this is how I tend to react to my own type IRL, so that was kind of funny. Though I will note, I reacted to the women in that group and barely noticed the men. Once I actually watched videos I didn't mind them, but they struck me as unsexual. EIE struck me as VERY unsexual.
    My reaction to IEE: Oh THOSE girls. The cutesy dumb ones who get all the guys. Fuck those bitches. This was not a reaction to anything they said (they very well may be geniuses, for all I know).. it was just a visceral thing.

    I am not a visual associative person like Si, where I have conscious associations between this or that.
    But I have had some dating experience and best experiences with LSI and SLE, so it could be that I just "knew" unconsciously who I would click with.
    This was not ubiquitous - there were people in each group that I didn't like. I'm quite picky. But the ones that stood out were the ones I mentioned.

    And yes this is the polite version.

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    ESI
    ESE
    LSE
    IEE


    SLI
    SEI
    LII
    EII
    ILE
    LIE
    SEE
    ILI


    IEI
    EIE
    SLE
    LSI

    the middle ones are slightly jumbled but i was careful with the top and bottom ones. @Sol
    i think in all these ones i've done, ESI has always been top 4.
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    @eko / maniac

    > the middle ones are slightly jumbled but i was careful with the top and bottom ones

    if you'd did the sorting for the 1st time it would be more useful. in other case you know which types are the groups

    in this time there are many Si/Ne ego types - 8/9 of up. the only trait with significant expression
    among Si valued the main version for you was SEI. it's possible for the sorting, only ESI at up does not fit

    @Volcana
    > It was a no-contest win for my dual and activator.

    so SLE, LSI got two top places. in case this happened without your knowledge of types associated with the groups - it's meaningful

    > Both times, I was most repulsed by Si egos and Deltas

    let's assume them at bottom in your sorting. what supports Ni type of beta

    > y'all are not necessarily repulsive irl

    IR work similarly in IRL as nonverbal is same. You may pay lesser attention on "friendly" associations like in this test, so notice these sympathies lesser. Nontypes factors IRL should influence more. Mostly people cooperate IRL, but not seek for soul friendships where IR are important.

    > There's something about them that feels 'dirty.'

    activation of your Si region, in case it's weak nonvalued - inspires protections, fears. "bad" in Si you associate with dirt. such this may work. on practice Si types should to keep a body in the best look and state

    > My reaction to IEE: Oh THOSE girls. The cutesy dumb ones who get all the guys.

    this is more common for quasi-identity. they often give the surface impression of dumbs I perceive my ones as "bulls".
    also seems you have liked LSI examples more. you described them before SLE, told more about them and some better
    this supports my opinion that EIE fits you more than IEI. with video would be more clear
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    @Sol nah i dont like ILE

    SEIs are kind of hit or miss. going off of your actual list i like some of them and could see me being friends with them, some of them i see as verypretentious and annoying. so youve probably mistyped a chunk

    perhaps im LIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by eko View Post
    nah i dont like ILE
    Keira Knightley is ILE
    try to sort women

    among Si valued SEI fits you best

    > going off of your actual list i like some of them and could see me being friends with them, some of them i see as verypretentious and annoying. so youve probably mistyped a chunk

    nontypes factors may affect too. that's why to reduce their influence you sort by group impression, but not by individuals. you use a comparision, but not direct evaluations. also it's not IRL communication - here IR mb lesser clear

    > perhaps im LIE

    Si valued types in up is against this. also their superego are in top 4
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    @Sol i just looked up an interview and shes too loud and obnoxious. however id like to have her appearances.

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    @Sol
    My own personality and look on video is much more similar to IEI, but I know what you mean and I thought about it too -
    I was definitely more aroused by the LSIs, although with SLE it felt like I grew more into them, the longer I watched them. The LSIs were "this is the type of guy I would chase/marry." (History points to this too.)
    My adverse reaction to Si was strong to the point that it surprised me how consistent it was. I could understand how this might point to Si polr.
    I understand how this looks more EIE. I have thought of this before too because I know how I react to people irl. It doesn't sit right for many other reasons,but it's not an unreasonable suggestion. I'll keep y'all updated if I feel like one day that makes more sense. I do appreciate your input and loved this test muchly!
    I'll be posting some videos myself and when I make them public they will be accessible here. I can guarantee I look and sound more like IEI though, despite the very clear pattern you point out. Something to think about for sure.


    Also, I should point out that I know you instructed not to respond to "sexual attraction," but I can't help noticing that. I felt arguably more comfort and familiarity with SLE, but more sexual attraction to LSI, for what it's worth. LSI felt mysterious and intriguing but SLE felt real & present, like home. SLE felt the most honest.. very honest.. like I'd just be present with them and could talk or hang out forever. Whereas with LSI I felt like they were hiding something behind a veil and I could lure it out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcana View Post
    I was definitely more aroused by the LSIs
    you may also compare: LII vs SEE, ESI vs ILE

    > I'll be posting some videos myself and when I make them public they will be accessible here.

    if you'll do - you may mention my nick so I'd looked at

    > Also, I should point out that I know you instructed not to respond to "sexual attraction," but I can't help noticing that.

    The sorting should be done with the attention to friendly sympathy - it's some other. Sexual attraction is linked to this secondary (to some degree; if we like people as persons - we perceive them as potential partners and this inspires more of sexual interest, which becomes lesser blocked), but should not be used for the sorting _intentionally_ as depends strongly on the look too.

    > LSI felt mysterious and intriguing but SLE felt real & present, like home

    The lesser a type is similar to you - the more it looks as "mysterious and intriguing". The E/I difference is more noticable on the surface, than J/P. Also we like more the same J/P, not different. This makes duals to look as more different and attractive than activators.
    Even semiduals mb more attractive than activators. At least such was my experience. I never got significant feelings to IEE, while I had such attractive girls near. And when there was a situation I liked 2 girls IEE and ESI, - I've prefered ESI, the feelings developed further to her.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    you may also compare: LII vs SEE, ESI vs ILE

    > I'll be posting some videos myself and when I make them public they will be accessible here.

    if you'll do - you may mention my nick so I'd looked at

    > Also, I should point out that I know you instructed not to respond to "sexual attraction," but I can't help noticing that.

    The sorting should be done with the attention to friendly sympathy - it's some other. Sexual attraction is linked to this secondary (to some degree; if we like people as persons - we perceive them as potential partners and this inspires more of sexual interest, which becomes lesser blocked), but should not be used for the sorting _intentionally_ as depends strongly on the look too.

    > LSI felt mysterious and intriguing but SLE felt real & present, like home

    The lesser a type is similar to you - the more it looks as "mysterious and intriguing". The E/I difference is more noticable on the surface, than J/P. Also we like more the same J/P, not different. This makes duals to look as more different and attractive than activators.
    Even semiduals mb more attractive than activators. At least such was my experience. I never got significant feelings to IEE, while I had such attractive girls near. And when there was a situation I liked 2 girls IEE and ESI, - I've prefered ESI, the feelings developed further to her.
    If I were typing myself solely based on "who I'm most attracted to," it would definitely be LSI - and that would make me EIE.
    But, then there's the rest of the picture.
    I have dated - and been heavily attracted - to SEE men. More than once. My best friend for years was SEE also, and I liked her so much that I had a girl-crush on her. However I don't find LII men attractive in the slightest. Ive had LIIs try with me and they just don't strike me as dating material at all even if we're friends. I tend to find them rather boring and unstylish.
    Also, my father is SLE so the familiarity has grown over time. I used to find him the most fascinating mystery of all

    But yes, we could go back and forth forever on the intricacies of this. I will tag you when there's a good video up.
    My dating history shows best experiences with SEE, SLE and LSI, and possibly one ESI, but I have no dating history or attraction history with LII or ILE. The same showed in these videos: the LII struck me as dweebs and in the case of EII and LII, my response was the word "Meh" ... which I didn't use for anyone else. Response to SEE was mixed, but I find the Hodgetwins attractive and I have always enjoyed their videos. I'm attracted to Se egos in general, whereas Ti ego just isn't enough to get my attention if there isn't any Se. This applies to friends as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcana View Post
    The same showed in these videos: the LII struck me as dweebs and in the case of EII and LII, my response was the word "Meh" ... which I didn't use for anyone else.
    so you had more friendly sympathy to SEE than LII among my examples. well.. the full sorting would be good to look at
    sexual attraction should not be used as the sorting criterion intentionally

    > I'm attracted to Se egos in general, whereas Ti ego just isn't enough to get my attention if there isn't any Se.

    mirage are nice people. for IEI should be more pleasant ILE than ESI. in your case mb it's the opposite
    I recommend for IR to use my examples, as have more trust to their correctness.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    so you had more friendly sympathy to SEE than LII among my examples. well.. the full sorting would be good to look at
    sexual attraction should not be used as the sorting criterion intentionally

    > I'm attracted to Se egos in general, whereas Ti ego just isn't enough to get my attention if there isn't any Se.

    mirage are nice people. for IEI should be more pleasant ILE than ESI. in your case mb it's the opposite
    I recommend for IR to use my examples, as have more trust to their correctness.
    can't separate sexual attraction from sympathies. I'm not a people person with lots of different friends. Either someone turns me on or they don't. Even my female friends are hot and intriguing and arousing to me. I'm Sx dom 4.. life is art, art is life, poetry and sex and attraction are one. I don't understand this whole "just friends" thing. If your friends don't arouse and stimulate you in some way, why hang out with them?


    ILE is more pleasant than ESI, actually. And the topics they bring up are more relevant than what ESI talks about. The intricacies of how I feel about each type are a lot different than you are presenting them, because I haven't actually gone into it deeply so you're filling in spaces with things I didn't say. I find conversation topics of ILE more interesting than ESI, but I like ESI as musicians because they play with more force. I spent most of my life in the music industry and I find music for Ne has a very different feel than Se, which is what I need - more force, more aggression, more willfulness. However for talking about topics I'd rather avoid Gamma SFs, whereas I enjoy doing this with Alpha NTs. Aside from sexual attraction, I don't have strong reactions for or against people because I don't care about being in 'good sympathies' or being comfortable. Being comfortable is a Si concern anyway. I want a challenge. I don't evaluate people on the same criteria.

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    Also, don't get me wrong @Sol - I am strongly considering EIE on my own time and I'm taking in the information you've given. I do appreciate the suggestion. I am definitely looking into it; I just don't like it when the reasoning is basically a false premise. My pattern of attraction to LSI is not a false premise, but the relations with other types have different complexity than what I mentioned here. Also, my writing style, which you brought up in another thread -- it's a result of extremely hard work. Messy writing style was a characteristic thing, and I can't hide my rambling chaos style in videos-- which is why I said to wait until you see the videos. The vortex thinking style is good for me. But I am willing to be wrong on that. It's definitely between EIE or IEI for me - I've already been down the ILI road and it's a no go. All signs point to Beta. Anyway you don't have to persuade me to consider EIE, i am already doing so, but I'll be surprised if you see a video of me and you can't see the 'long stream of consciousness chaos' associated with IEI, which is a strong factor in my self-typing, among many others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcana View Post
    I just don't like it when the reasoning is basically a false premise.
    It's not such from my side.
    According to the known the possibility of you to be IEI is smaller than EIE or mb other type. For example, the results of IR test point that you prefer LSI and perceive them closer to your duals than SLE. You significantly differ from people I typed to IEI.
    With better typology understanding mb you'll be able to accept my arguments and may will notice more your differences from IEI yourself.
    I'll wait for your video to clear more the situation with your type.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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