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    Just hit me that Beta is the Sparta of Socionics. They are loyal, shield the guy next to them in battle and are strategic. Strong warriors and strong independent women.


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    And their rite of passage into manhood is killing a defenseless slave in cold blood!

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    i thought they fought some crazy beast in the wilderness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    i thought they fought some crazy beast in the wilderness
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypteia
    http://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/vie...5&context=gvjh


    Its purpose is debated, but it was still a thing. And it wasn't like understandable quelling of slave revolts either, it was a regular event where Spartans could murder any slave they wanted without consequence.

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    sounds beta, I believe it

    gotta break a few eggs and all that, those slaves fulfilled every members final duty to the state

    its nothing less than what the state will ultimately ask of those same soldiers

    (we need an emoji of a berserker w/ axe)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    It even got a official emoji
    You mean this: ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    You mean this: ?

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    Came into this thread to hate but OP makes a good point. I love that stuff, but keep it far, far away from me. lol. I love that going down in a blaze of glory shit. I am not a warrior but I do like strong women. Are Klingons Beta too?

    Young Guns is another Beta movie by your standards. Love that. Bunch of rejects from different walks of life.





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    klingons are like the most beta thing ever

    I once heard someone get salty cause they said "strat makes beta out to be a bunch of klingons"

    its like bitch recognize a compliment when you see one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    klingons are like the most beta thing ever

    I once heard someone get salty cause they said "strat makes beta out to be a bunch of klingons"

    its like bitch recognize a compliment when you see one
    They are so fuckin rowdy. lol. They also killed their Gods.

    One of my favorite scenes from any Star Trek was the DS9 and Worf vs the Jemhadar. They know the Klingon has a reputation as being tough. They play the game: you beat a person until he no longer can get up. And he couldnt break Worf. Everyone kept telling Worf to stay down but he wouldnt. So the Jemhadar stopped. He said all he could do was kill him.


    (Worf continues to be pummelled to the ground.)
    MARTOK: Worf, honour has been satisfied. Stay down.
    (But Worf gets up)
    DEYOS: Finish this.
    (Worf gets knocked down again)

    (Ikat'ika stops Worf as he crawls to a post.)
    IKAT'IKA: Enough, Klingon. You have proven your worth.
    MARTOK: Worf, you heard him. Enough.
    WORF: I will not yield.
    DEYOS: What are you waiting for? End this.
    IKAT'IKA: It's over.
    WORF: It is not over.
    DEYOS: You heard him.
    (Worf cannot stand, and Ikat'ika is breathing hard.)
    IKAT'IKA: I yield.
    DEYOS: You what?
    IKAT'IKA: I yield. I cannot defeat this Klingon. All I can do is kill him, and that no longer holds my interest.
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    that is really awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    I watched this movie recently. Lost City of Z. Good movie.

    The main character killed something and said death is the best sauce for life.

    to death, the best sauce for life,

    And I believe that. Death is that ingredient on top that really brings out the flavor of life. A life without death is like a pizza without sauce and cheese.
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    And fuckin Spartacus. Loved that show. lol. "I AM SPARTACUS. BRINGER OF RAIN."




    "Tell your Gods that Crixus pisses upon them!" - the Undefeated Gaul.

    Batiatus: You are here because of my grandfather. He built this ludus. He believed that no man was without worth. That even the most vile among us could rise to honor and glory. He instilled these beliefs in my father, who in turn passed them on to me. I am a lanista. Like my forefathers, a trainer of gladiators. I see things in men that they themselves have lost, small spark, an ember, I give it breath, tender, until it ignites in the arena.



    Best dialogue in a fuckin show ever. lol





    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    Mista Busta, where the fuck you at?

    Can't scrap a lick, so I know ya got your gat
    Your dick on hard, from fuckin' your road dogs
    The hood you threw up with, niggaz you grew up with
    Don't even respect your ass
    That's why it's time for the doctor, to check your ass, nigga
    Used to be my homey, used to be my ace
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    Fuckin' me, now I'm fuckin' you, little ho
    Oh, don't think I forgot, let you slide
    Let me ride, just another homicide
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    And them rhymes you were kickin' were quite bootylicious
    You get with Doggy Dogg oh is he crazy?
    With ya mama and your daddy hollin' Bay-Bee
    So won't they let you know
    That if you fuck with Dre nigga you're fuckin' wit Death Row
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    I'm hollin' one-eight-seven with my dick in yo mouth, beotch

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    Musta, thought I was sleazy
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    Ay yo Dre, whattup, check this nigga off loc
    If it ain't another ho that I gots ta fuck with
    Gap teeth in ya mouth so my dick's gots to fit
    With my nuts on ya tonsils
    While ya onstage rappin' at your wack-ass concerts
    And I'ma snatch your ass from the backside
    To show you how Death Row pull off that whoride
    Now you might not understand me
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    Then we gon creep to South Central
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    Spot him, got him, as I pulls out my strap
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    'Cause when you diss Dre you diss yourself, motherfucker

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    Dr. Dre, droppin' chronic once again
    It don't stop, punishing punk motherfuckers real quick like
    Compton style nigga
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    Long Beach in the motherfuckin' house
    Straight up, really doe
    Breakin' all you suckaz off somethin' real proper like
    You know what I'm sayin?
    All these sucka ass niggaz can eat a fat dick
    Yeah, Eazy-E Eazy-E Eazy-E can eat a big fat dick
    Tim Dog can eat a big fat dick
    Luke, can eat a fat dick
    Yeah
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    Am i beta?!

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    What's a fucking beta anyways

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    i don't know what I'm doing xD

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    shh no one does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    shh no one does
    Am i a beta to you?

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    fuck if I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    fuck if I know
    Hahahahaah! I really like you being a dick. Keep it up

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    Love gangster and gangsta movies. He is getting back at a crew who killed his brother. He tells him to turn over and show his face when he shoots him.



    [Doughboy kicks Ferris in his bullet-ridden legs]

    Ferris: Fuck you man! Fuck you!

    Doughboy: Turn your punk-ass over!

    Ferris:[Rolls over] I didn't do it man! I didn't pull the fuckin' trigger! What the fuck you doin? Oh, man! Well, fuck you!

    [Doughboy shoots Ferris twice]
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    “In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them.”
    Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    some enemies I crush like bugs; but on the whole, I totally agree, any worthy adversary you have to love first in order to defeat

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    “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected .”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity”
    ― Sun Tzu, A Arte da Guerra

    “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected .”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity”
    ― Sun Tzu, A Arte da Guerra

    “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    “Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War


    Yes, I think Sun Tzu is beta. I was watching something just yesterday and somebody said "chaos is a ladder". Forgot what.


    "All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved."





    Mason: Are you sure you're ready for this? [walks up staircase]

    Goodspeed: I'll do my best.

    Mason: [stops and motions back to Goodspeed] Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen!

    Goodspeed: Carla was the prom queen.

    Mason: [faintly impressed] Really?

    Goodspeed: [Cocks his gun] Yeah!
    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    What's your profession?

    Ahooo! Ahooo!

    https://youtu.be/gI6sARmxEuc

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    I believe that Sun Tzu is an LIE. Beta Quadra types have a different set of priorities and would behave very differently to this in wartime - they are more overtly passionate and instinctual, and for good or ill, are rarely capable of marrying precise, methodical calculation with a broad vision. A Beta general, if he ever bothered to write this kind of manual (more than likely it would be a set of reflections), would advise his audience to just trust their feelings, leap in, take risks and shock the enemy though surprise shows of force. While Betas (EIE anyway) may have a strategy of sorts, it's not consciously articulated. We "just know" things, and believe you should act first and ask questions later. We love feeling zoned in, focused and need a sense of direction. So cut out the crap and we shall march onward. We shall become overwhelming, spectacular, and inspirational!

    Oh, and after you've read through this, go back and read Sun Tzu's quotes. You should notice a very clear difference in tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    Wars are how we men used to release stress when we couldn't get laid. Thankfully, porn has taken care of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    Wars are how we men used to release stress when we couldn't get laid. Thankfully, porn has taken care of that
    So, instead of going out and fighting for causes (or money with causes as a proxxy) and earning glory and honor (or shame and dishonor, if you behave badly), you sit in your basement all day and night glued to a screen, munching on Cheetos and getting your hand sticky. And you consider this a good thing.

    Not ExFx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    So, instead of going out and fighting for causes (or money with causes as a proxxy) and earning glory and honor (or shame and dishonor, if you behave badly), you sit in your basement all day and night glued to a screen, munching on Cheetos and getting your hand sticky. And you consider this a good thing.
    Am I somehow supposed to feel ashamed of myself? Pornography has fueled my imagination and provided me with grandiose ambitions, and a dramatic vision that lies beyond your wildest dreams. Let us just say that I seek glory in the bedroom, rather than on the battlefield - after all, we have drones to do that shit now. I could obliterate the enemy while you gave me a blowjob, wearing some sexy lingerie and a top hat.

    Now that is power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Not ExFx.
    Not SO first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    Am I somehow supposed to feel ashamed of myself? Pornography has fueled my imagination and provided me with grandiose ambitions, and a dramatic vision that lies beyond your wildest dreams. Let us just say that I seek glory in the bedroom, rather than on the battlefield - after all, we have drones to do that shit now. I could obliterate the enemy while you gave me a blowjob, wearing some sexy lingerie and a top hat.

    Now that is power.



    Not SO first.
    You are either a troll or the dumbest person alive. No one of any age, sex, race, or creed thinks that a dumb dude with an acne-ridden face and chest sitting around in his brown-stained underwear and wanking with Cheeto-dust covered hands is someone they'd want to bang, and no one is afraid of someone who brags about how great it is that they watch porn instead of joining the military being able to get anything without consent either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    You are either a troll or the dumbest person alive. No one of any age, sex, race, or creed thinks that a dumb dude with an acne-ridden face and chest sitting around in his brown-stained underwear and wanking with Cheeto-dust covered hands is someone they'd want to bang, and no one is afraid of someone who brags about how great it is that they watch porn instead of joining the military being able to get anything without consent either.
    I am a stickler for efficiency, so devolving some responsibility for sexual services (and warfare) to machines appeals to me, as we can get so much more done with our time.

    Your assumptions about attractiveness are also easy to disprove. Go out on to the street and do some people-watching. You should see quite a few acne-covered nerds, and some of them have hot girlfriends. This used to surprise me, too, but at least I now understand why. These less aesthetic dudes nonetheless created something and made money, and that is ultimately more important to women than honour, glory and a hot body are. If you don't believe me, ask yourself why so many lumberjacks and veterans can't get laid.

    You would gladly fuck me for a million dollars, yet you won't for a hundred. Therefore every woman has her price, and we are just negotiating the terms of your employment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    I am a stickler for efficiency - devolving some responsibility for sex and for warfare to machines holds instant appeal, as we can get so much more done.

    Your assumptions about attractiveness are also easy to disprove. Go out on to the street and do some people-watching. You should see quite a few acne-covered nerds, and some of them have hot girlfriends. This used to surprise me, too, but at least I now understand why. These less aesthetic dudes nonetheless created something and made money, and this is ultimately more important to women than honour, glory and a hot body are. If you don't believe me, ask yourself why so many lumberjacks and veterans can't get laid.

    You would gladly fuck me for a million dollars, yet you wouldn't for a hundred. Therefore every woman has her price, and we are just negotiating the terms of your employment.
    Some acne-ridden nerds have other redeeming qualities that some hot girlfriends might find attractive. Still doesn't seem particularly appealing, as I tend to be pretty visual , but that can't be said of you.

    You think all the money in the world would be enough to compel anyone to fuck you? Maybe if you meant you wanted to be fucked with a 12-inch spiked strapon, but I still think whoever took up the offer would feel it's a dispassionate act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Some acne-ridden nerds have other redeeming qualities that some hot girlfriends might find attractive. Still doesn't seem particularly appealing, as I tend to be pretty visual , but that can't be said of you.
    I am far more physically attractive than you are, have you seen what I look like? I think you are pushing above your pay grade here, sweetheart. Don't get too optimistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    You think all the money in the world would be enough to compel anyone to fuck you?
    I don't think that, I know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    I am far more physically attractive than you are, have you seen what I look like? I think you are pushing above your pay grade here, sweetheart. Don't get too optimistic.
    Yes.



    You even show the hat in your photoshopped version!


    I don't think that, I know it.
    DELUSION: A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everyone else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not one ordinarily accepted by other members of the person’s culture or subculture (e.g. it is not an article of religious faith). When a false belief involves a value judgment, it is regarded as a delusion only when the judgment is so extreme as to defy credibility. Delusional conviction occurs on a continuum and can sometimes be inferred from an individual’s behavior. It is often difficult to distinguish between a delusion and an overvalued idea (in which case the individual has an unreasonable belief or idea but does not hold it as firmly as is the case with a delusion). DSM-IV, p. 765.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Yes.



    You even show the hat in your photoshopped version!
    There are recent pictures of me around the forum which you could have easily accessed, and I look nothing like this dude - though, he does have a nice coat.

    I have a growing perception that you are projecting insecurities about your appearance onto me. This would make you a typical internet feminist, bitter that she can't meet the absurdly high standards she sets for others.

    Now, you are beginning to bore me. Tits or nothing.

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