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    Default Gordon Ramsay

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    Default Gordon Ramsay and Rove McManus

    What kind of intertype relation does this look like?

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    Rove is without a doubt ESE.

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    Rove is Ti ego and probably Beta ST.
    He reminds me of Bobby Fischer but less eccentric.

    I say Mirror or identical, but Ramsay isn't LSI imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Rove is Ti ego and probably Beta ST.
    He reminds me of Bobby Fischer but less eccentric.
    Yeah, that might be possible.

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    I find Rove's humour to be so very alpha.

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    Rove McManus strikes me as Ne/Si extrovert, I may lean alpha too if only for the undeniable genericness that comes with being a talk show host haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jxrtes View Post
    Rove is Ti ego and probably Beta ST.
    He reminds me of Bobby Fischer but less eccentric.
    Idk.. I think Rove is just more confrontational-ish in that interview because he's adapting to Ramsay's rudeness.
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    Ramsay is ENFJ

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    Benefit Ramsay EIE, Rove ILE.

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    I do believe most people have correctly identified Ramsay as Beta, though to me he has to be Se dominant, because he's awesome. I've looked into the other two possibilities that people have brought up, LSI and EIE. EIE is a good first impression, but upon watching the show he is just much too Se dominant, hugely controlling, impulsive, etc. with of a lack of consistent beta-tinged Fe + Ni, and LSI comes across mainly like an odd, out of the question typing to me. SLE fits wonderfully, indeed. His Ti-creative really becomes quite obvious while watching the show.

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    Coolio. It's hard to get passed the fact that he's a giant douche and be objective in typing him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    It's hard to get passed the fact that he's a giant douche
    I like the fact that he takes charge and delivers pure honesty in his opinions, without resorting to any bells and whistles. He doesn't settle for being manipulated and disrespected. He's very straight-forward and opinionated. I personally see the show staying true to what he thinks, without a script getting involved and changing things. It's that dominant attitude, and he seems like a pretty smart and respectable guy. I can see how he might look like a douche though, but that's sort of an unfair judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    I can see how he might look like a douche though, but that's sort of an unfair judgment.
    Eh I don't think so, but I have to admit there's something endearing about him in this clip..

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    Alright, I suppose he is a douche, but maybe that can be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Alright, I suppose he is a douche, but maybe that can be a good thing.
    It can make others feel better about themselves I suppose.. But I wasn't really joking about the endearing thing. "Would you like it whole or diced?" Reminds me of my mum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    Eh I don't think so, but I have to admit there's something endearing about him in this clip..

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    Ramsay is my hero, he's so great.

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    every restaurant probably hates and fears him walking in their door because he could break their restaurant.
    Which is awesome because most restaurants suck at least in the USA.
    It would be great to have a meal with him at any restaurant.

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    Default Hell's Kitchen

    Elise - ESI? (or SEE?)

    Gordon Ramsay - ?
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    Gordon is an ISTj. I haven't watched this series.

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    Ramsay is Se-ISTj. I don't know a lot of chefs' types.

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    Cool - I hadn't considered ISTj for Gordon but it sounds good - curious about my quasi. I only know 3-4 but they aren't as ... emotional? loud?

    Elise is also very forceful, lots of Se I think... I'm feeling Gamma for her. She has some funny/raunchy (not the right word) humor in her little talking head segments
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    Gordon Ramsay = ENFj

    And I'm 100% certain about that.

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    ENFjs and ISTjs sometimes remind me of one another because of same quadra and rationality, but to me he's not extroverted and emotionally energizing/warm enough for Fe-dominant (that's personally my impression of Fe-doms). He's colder, more distanced and introverted. The only thing is a lot of ISTjs do not come across as cold when they have their Fe-seeking face on, they can be just as good socializers, but most of the time they are still 'distanced' from people. So don't agree with me, just my personal impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Gordon Ramsay = ENFj

    And I'm 100% certain about that.
    Whats his wife then?..pssh..ENFj, just look at her!



    They remind me of two beta rational dyads I know irl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walker31 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Gordon Ramsay = ENFj

    And I'm 100% certain about that.
    Whats his wife then?..pssh..ENFj, just look at her!
    that his wife is enfj is not a proof that he must be istj. that's ridiculous.

    also, ramsay is the most emotional guy i've ever seen in my life, next to that he's very competetive (ENFj-Ni). Dr Phil is istj, do you see him screeming all day, istj's are cool and collected.

    look at tempo of their speech.
    dr phil = slow and unemotional
    Ramsay = Fast and emotional/passionate

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    Do you see Dr. Phil and Ramsay as duals? Dr. Phil isn't Beta imo, they seem vastly different and wouldn't get along. Look at their language.

    I just tend to view Fe and Fi as more more purely ethical/feeling functions. So while he yells and gets excited, this is not really a contradiction. But yelling at people thus being ENFj, that's more of a bad stereotype. Just saying, maybe we should find a different reason for him being ENFj than just his temper. He does not seem very humanistically inclined or like he wants to reach out emotionally on the same wavelength as others. He seems insensitive, it's like he's the one who needs an Fe dual. Also look at his behavior and his pictures, he looks introverted. Maybe our definitions of Fe differ in the sense that he can be as cold and insensitive yet if he yells at people a lot and has drive in his work, that means he has dominant Fe. The difference between him and Hitler in one sense is that Hitler was literally wearing emotions on his sleeves, and expressive in a more human way, not just getting mad at people for their mistakes. Ramsay is more calculated, critical and logical-process with everything. If you were to ask him, I'm sure he'd say the same thing, and say his wife makes for the clear Fe. Now I don't think he lacks passion and ambition in his life and with people though, he is caring and I don't think this is type related, it just doesn't manifest obviously like it does with ENFjs. Though I'm sure there's always room to explain this better...
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    I think ramses is SLE.

    esi works for elise.. but i still think shes an idiot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azeroffs View Post
    I think ramses is SLE.

    esi works for elise.. but i still think shes an idiot
    Ooh, I hadn't considered SLE - that sounds very good. Argh.

    Yeah, she's tough.
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    SLEs are more hawkish with globally dispersed energy. With EP / Se-focus they seem open and very energetically loose, extroverts in general have dominant presence without even speaking, while the IJ sort will stiffly attend and eye their mind more. At first it sounds right to call him extroverted because he's a yeller and talker, though probably not accurate in a Socionics sense. We may by more of a consensus classify him as extroverted in MBTI.

    Even Ti subtype SLEs have an opposite thing going on. While they seem more mental like thinkers (think Einstein Ti-ILE), at the same time they seem more awake, open and free, in the opposite sense Se-LSIs seem more physically inclined, yet more introverted, closed, stiff. These are my own observations.

    Now why he's supposed to be Ti ego, this will probably take a lot more explanation aside from my own impressions of him reminding me of LSIs style of thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meals View Post
    Elise is also very forceful, lots of Se I think... I'm feeling Gamma for her.
    She's ENFj. What you're interpreting as 'forceful' is likely the EJ temperament.



    They look funny together lol. It's evident he's the introverted one.

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    I think he displays Se, can't say beyond that.

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    this may have been done before but in my defense im new
    anyways to me gordon seem to be more a Te ego yelling in peoples faces for order and not Se or the skillful use of leverage in contrast i see that guy from burn notice as an LSI because although he does give info he is without a doubt more concerned with the skillful use of leverage simply put gordon seems more like a manager then a tactician. What do you guys think?

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    I would agree, I definitely see Te. He seems to be Gamma, so I'd say LIE for my two cents.
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    He's a logical type, that much is obvious. Let's first rule out INTp, INTj and ENTp.
    I don't think yelling at people is Te. Bullying and yelling at people is applying volitional pressure. So that's Se.
    Notice also how he curses and makes everyone aware of his irritation.

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    y is he yelling for Te purposes id argue this can suggest Te dom because the lack of order (thats what hes doing making order) irritates him to the point of rage but alternatively hes doesnt not need too much awareness of Te because he has learned what needs to be done which could suggest other functions in the ego its weird with him because he is acting a bit but one idea i had was SLI where his creative Te is going ape shit all over the place whiles his polr Fe doesnt give a fuck about others feeling but LSE with zero role input seems more likely and yes LIE is good too because sense he has full control over the situation the mobilizing Se is making him horny as fuck with power and he goes super alpha on everyone i seen this happen before nice people turning into animals because of power EIE im looking at you

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    SLIs are seriously relaxed. LSEs have role Fe, so they try to be nice (but not to IEIs ).
    Let's try and work out his PoLR and go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zap View Post
    lol, great thread! @Gilly & @hkkmr, time for u to finish your rivalry over this issue from years back! I don't got an opinion on his type currently maybe I'll type him later.
    ISTj looks a popular typing of him (from the poll).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Martrix View Post
    SLIs are seriously relaxed. LSEs have role Fe, so they try to be nice (but not to IEIs ).
    Let's try and work out his PoLR and go from there.
    dude your walking through this using stereotypes a SLI can certainly get fired up (everyone gots emotions) especially when there is money on the line Fe polr doesnt mean cant express itself (more like wont) it means not caring about others moods and that is a perfect recipe for making people feel bad and for LSE after a certain amount of incompetence im sure any LSE is gunna say fuck it and start not caring either and start taking names kicking ass and such i personally like the LIE a bit more tho and for polr id say there is a sever lack of Fe in his performances

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