Fashion Sense and Fe

[Iwantpeace]

Maybe its the pleasing nature of Fe to want to look stylish?
Any thoughts on this?

[Nehtaro]

Decisive types do tend to dress more stylishly and keep up with fashion trends, 'the now' being tied in with SeNi. I think that Se types have naturally better style than Ni types, but the Ni types care more (that SuperId yo) and seem to eat up fashion tips and rules. Judicious types just don't care as much about displaying high status through appearance.
Definitely has nothing to do with Fe. I have noticed that Delta NFs tend to envy the appearance of Gamma SFs, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a symmetrical pattern for Alphas and Betas.

[flames]

I believe sensing and ethics in general. Se & Fe just happen to be oriented outwards so it makes sense that they seem to be better at it than others, too. Beta NFs can dress really well as long as they've learned too, if not they can be kinda sloppy or try hard. Gamma SFs tend to do it best from what I've seen because they're present and have an eye and like to go bold over bland but I see them around way more often than Beta NFs so can't really say. I saw an EIE once who was dressed super classy and it was nice but way too much for the setting so that's one way Beta NF can do it wrong.

Alpha SFs tend to dress well, too, but usually more modest unless they have a 3 fix or sx. (My mom is ESE 2w3 and super stylish, occasionally she uses the 3 wing flair which makes it a little less modest) Some of them are tacky and outdated looking, usually the old mom and grandma ones who cling to that image of being that. Beta STs usually go for a "thug" look or dress simple but not bad.

edit: "sloppy" generally goes with IEI more and "too much" with EIE, like Kurt Cobain was IEI and embraced dressing sloppy both for practicality (he was poor before fame) and for the image

[darya]

I believe sensing and ethics in general. Se & Fe just happen to be oriented outwards so it makes sense that they seem to be better at it than others, too. Beta NFs can dress really well as long as they've learned too, if not they can be kinda sloppy or try hard. Gamma SFs tend to do it best from what I've seen because they're present and have an eye and like to go bold over bland but I see them around way more often than Beta NFs so can't really say. I saw an EIE once who was dressed super classy and it was nice but way too much for the setting so that's one way Beta NF can do it wrong.

Alpha SFs tend to dress well, too, but usually more modest unless they have a 3 fix or sx. (My mom is ESE 2w3 and super stylish, occasionally she uses the 3 wing flair which makes it a little less modest) Some of them are tacky and outdated looking, usually the old mom and grandma ones who cling to that image of being that. Beta STs usually go for a "thug" look or dress simple but not bad.

edit: "sloppy" generally goes with IEI more and "too much" with EIE, like Kurt Cobain was IEI and embraced dressing sloppy both for practicality (he was poor before fame) and for the image

Some Beta NF's (2w3, e3 and 4w3's ones) care a lot about clothes, can be dressed to the nines and have cool personal style, but from what I've observed, there's often something slightly awkward about it. Either something doesn't fit, some detail is weird or sloppy or (most often) they come off as slightly clumsy. Sensors (the stronger the Se the better) just have more spatial body confidence and have less awkwards movements. Intuitives that care about presentation try to mask this, but it comes through in most of them if you really observe them.

Considering the fashion, I would say it's much more tied to the enneagram - LSE's can be very stylish and fashion - conscious as well for example.

[FDG]

I think S types are just better at this overall

Sensors (the stronger the Se the better) just have more spatial body confidence and have less awkwards movements

Mmhmh, I have many S friends who are worse than me at sports (I mean sports like soccer where coordination matters)...but I am more clumsy in my daily life, true.

[darya]

I think S types are just better at this overall



Mmhmh, I have many S friends who are worse than me at sports (I mean sports like soccer where coordination matters)...but I am more clumsy in my daily life, true.

Sure, some N's can be good at such sports (ENxx usually) and some sensors usually bad (SEI's come to mind lol).

[neproblems]

Sure, some N's can be good at such sports (ENxx usually) and some sensors usually bad (SEI's come to mind lol).

Makes complete sense to me; Tracking the ball and other players should be TE

"Extroverted logic deals with the external activity of objects, i.e the how, what and where of events, activity or work, behaviour, algorithms, movement, and actions"

[darya]

Makes complete sense to me; Tracking the ball and other players should be TE

"Extroverted logic deals with the external activity of objects, i.e the how, what and where of events, activity or work, behaviour, algorithms, movement, and actions"

Well... I don't think it's always that simple - I have a LSE friend who can't catch a ball to save her life - it's been a running joke she's ball retarted : ) Sports is a little bit complicated: Ime Se egos, SLI's, LSE's and some ENxx's are usually good at coordination group sports. INxx's and SEI's usually the worst and also not particularly interested in them. Large majority of pro players in all sports are sensors. But there is always a weird exception here and there on both sides.

[FDG]

Makes complete sense to me; Tracking the ball and other players should be TE

"Extroverted logic deals with the external activity of objects, i.e the how, what and where of events, activity or work, behaviour, algorithms, movement, and actions"

Idk I have a IEE friend who almost made it to pro soccer player, I was pretty good, then many SLIs I know are lazy, then some SEE like food so they're not in shape and thus don't play as well as they could...

Intuition can be useful for sports like soccer basketball or american football, you can improvise some things that others can't easily expect. Of course you need a good technical basis, thank god I had a LSI-Se as trainer in soccer.

[neproblems]

Well... I don't think it's always that simple - I have a LSE friend who can't catch a ball to save her life - it's been a running joke she's ball retarted : ) Sports is a little bit complicated: Ime Se egos, SLI's, LSE's and some ENxx's are usually good at coordination group sports. INxx's and SEI's usually the worst and also not particularly interested in them. Large majority of pro players in all sports are sensors. But there is always a weird exception here and there on both sides.

It's an interesting one... In MBTI terms, I know that S types would always to related to sports, but when you look at the socionics descriptions, TE looks like the best fit for tracking balls/ players, as it tracks dynamic objects, whilst aparently SE is concerned with static information, which wouldnt be much use in ball sports, as the ball is usually moving.
Though I don't even know why SE is so related to force either, so maybe the function descriptions aren't the best?...

[neproblems]

Idk I have a IEE friend who almost made it to pro soccer player, I was pretty good, then many SLIs I know are lazy, then some SEE like food so they're not in shape and thus don't play as well as they could...

Intuition can be useful for sports like soccer basketball or american football, you can improvise some things that others can't easily expect. Of course you need a good technical basis, thank god I had a LSI-Se as trainer in soccer.

I wasn't naturally great at football, but I liked it and improved quite a lot (HA?)

I think that NI might be very useful for football, if you are able to use it in 'real-time' to anticipate the future actions of other players. Or would that be related to a 4D function?

[FDG]

I wasn't naturally great at football, but I liked it and improved quite a lot (HA?)

I think that NI might be very useful for football, if you are able to use it in 'real-time' to anticipate the future actions of other players. Or would that be related to a 4D function?

We're a bit off topic, but I personally think I use Ni that way. I'm quite good at free kicks and I do them in a "special" (?) way - usually if there's a creative guy in the team, he's the best at taking advantage of them, esp. corners...

[The Reality Denialist]

HINT: Try to type coaches.

Mostly ESTxs and maybe some LSIs. ( I can't follow them with their situational power analysis)

Anyways to original topic mid quadra, I suppose.

[Shytan]

Enneatype plays a lot into fashion, I think. Mostly 3s and Sx firsts of each type dress well.

[GuavaDrunk]

Maybe you just *like* the styles Fe-egos come up with better.

[Shytan]

The best dressed naturally are people with Extroverted sensing ego blocks and are sensors, so mainly Gamma SFs.
Most ESEs look really good during occasions but other days seem to dress plain/ordinary. I don't know as many EIEs.
Fe-ego block people tend to dress as is pertained to their gender, so they tend to be the most feminine and masculine in dressing.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

For me the issue is more practical than this. I would like to be more fashionable, but I really don't have the income to do so. I can't afford those nice faggy clothes from the big cities with my income really so instead I look like a cheap K-mart whore.

Find me a really nice outfit I could buy for 30 bucks that doesn't make me look like a down syndrome walrus from Target and I'll change my mind.