You know you've met an LIE woman when...
Seriously, what are ways to know a woman is an LIE?
LIE Women / Female ENTjs
You know you've met an LIE woman when...
Seriously, what are ways to know a woman is an LIE?
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
For the same reasons as you know when a man is LIE. Is this a good answer?Originally Posted by Pole
What is the background to you question?
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I don't know the type, when I looked for a thread on it there were none so I made this.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
Also, gender does play a role in socionics.
LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx
My former boss was a LIE woman. But I don't know of anything specifically gender related.
She thought the community was important. (Fi valuing). Maybe women think that more than men.
LIEs are often leaders, so if she is a woman she might be in a minority in a world of men.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
The woman in black is LIE. She talks about her company in this video. I've known her for a long time. This is in Finnish, but maybe it gives some hints
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Yes definitely LIE
You know you've met a female LIE when, while you're talking to her, you become convinced that you're talking to a man.
She looks at you like she's counting your atoms, she is physically slightly clumsy, she has a tendency towards sexual humor, and she's running her own program, nobody else's.
I think that both of the female judges in the following video are LIE.
And, of course, this woman is LIE:
Last edited by Adam Strange; 04-01-2024 at 03:36 AM.
They don’t seem “masculine” to me @Adam Strange
I am assuming you likely dont intend to come across as ‘insulting’ so I’m not seeing it that way but yeah
perhaps they have more gravitas? I skimmed I did not watch for long
is that what you meant? They seem ‘feminine’ to me tho
Do you consider LIEs a particularly "masculine" type in general? Or do you mean that just the women seem relatively masculine?
Intuitive types seem more androgynous, and sensory types more sexually dimorphic to me.
I think that sociotypes have a maleness or a femaleness associated with them. SLE, LIE, and LSE are very male personalities. Much to my surprise, but not to my ex-GF's surprise, I tested as 100% male and 3% female. My LSE sister acts like John Wayne. Looks like him, too. It was a disaster for her to get a male personality.
I have a good male friend who is IEI, which is the most female of the personality types. Looking at him, you would swear the guy was gay, but he's not. He lisps and flounces. He coos over women. He has two ex-wives and two kids. I also have dated a few female IEIs. Man, you could not ask for a more feminine woman. I think they even beat the SEI females.
I think that LIE females are female, but they are not really feminine. I'm not trying to insult them, because I know a few, and they will be the first to tell you that they feel like a man inside.
Fortunately, male ESIs seem to like whatever it is that the LIE females have.
Here is Filatova's view on this: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-by-E-Filatova
The present governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmore, is LIE.
Last edited by Adam Strange; 04-01-2024 at 06:01 AM.
A female LIE I know (quite similar to you, Adam) says that she was probably a man in a past-life and will probably be reborn as one if reincarnation is a thing. She'd most likely take your commentary as a compliment.
Tell her to skip the LSIs and go directly to the ESIs. Tell her I said so. She should be able to find one who looks like Paul Newman or Bruce Springsteen, not Bob Dylan. If she wants brains, she can look for a Brian May.
May is an Astrophysicist. He wrote the song '39 for Queen, about climate change and time dilation. The entire plot of Interstellar, in three and a half minutes. He looks like my best friend in high school, also an astrophysicist.
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