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  • SEI (ISFp)

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  • ESE (ESFj)

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  • LII (INTj)

    7 36.84%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    2 10.53%
  • IEI (INFp)

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  • EIE (ENFj)

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  • LSI (ISTj)

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  • SEE (ESFp)

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  • ILI (INTp)

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  • LIE (ENTj)

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  • IEE (ENFp)

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  • SLI (ISTp)

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    This is Dr. Angela Merkel:













    She is leader of the christian conservative opposition party in germany and her chances are good to become the next chancelor. She has a doctor in physics, is married and has no children. Despite of her political position she is not so popular, most people make fun of her appereance. There's nearly nothing about her private life that comes to the public. As far as I know her from TV (about 5 Years) she seems to always have had the same haircut and a very identical appereance. When holding a speech she is very resolute, sometimes angry and agressive.

    So what do you think is her type?

    I would GUESS its ISTJ, but I'm not betting on this.
    If you want more specific info about her for determining, just say and I look what I can get.
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    ENTP or ENFJ. She´s been a physicist as I have read.
    Wonder why and if I have to be an INTJ or how to do the best of it.

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    ENFJ definitely not, she's a more a thinker, not a feeler. For an ENTP she is not extraverted enough and hasn't come up with any new or special idea in her program. I also think she is a judger from what i've seen from her in TV. So anybody an idea, what says VI to you?

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    The smile looks rather artificial; I'm going to have to go out on a limb and say INTx.

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    She has a very Ayn Rand-like smile (even the haircut is the same.) Being quite resolute, possibly aggressive at times, is definitely an ISTj attribute. So, Jockl's guess of ISTj doesn't sound too bad at all.
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    My guess for her is LII-Ne sp/so.

    Excerpt quote from the documentary in the op:

    "Merkel didn't seem to care about her outward appearance at all. She was a typical GDR scientist, in that respect, wearing a baggy skirt, and Jesus sandals, and a cropped haircut. I remember coming back from our first trip and remarking to my office manager: "Couldn't you go out shopping for clothes for her?"

    The above sounds like Merkel has rather weak sensing functions. Additionally, I've noticed that my IEE sp/so roommate is simply glued to whatever this woman has to say, and understandably so, as LII typing would make Merkel be her "supervisor" in socionics sense.
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    "She lulls and sedates voters with her peculiar style of public speaking. Americans would call it an awe-shuck style: simple phrases, soothing tone, unthreatening hand gestures"

    "She understands that at a time of crisis, across Germany, germans don't want grand visions or cutting irony, they want to be reassured, they want a Mother, they want Mrs. Merkel."

    "Then from nowhere, Mrs Merkel turned on a dime and adopted the position of her opposition. Its a trick she has pulled again and again. Neutering the oppositions by co-opting a policy that is the corner stone of their campaign. It drives her opponents mad, but germans voters love her for it. Perhaps its because she always finds the right way and the right time to present her reforms to them. Slow and steady wins the race."

    LII, or LSI for sure. All the other clubs, NF, SF can be ruled out most definitely. Leaning towards LSI myself. I don't see much examples of an Ne creative from this women according to the videos. What I do see is Ni hidden agenda: "Perhaps its because she always finds the right way and the right time to present her reforms to them".

    "Slow and steady wins the race"? Is that not straight out of the LSI playbook?
    "Traffic lights and loneliness. Paper cans and tape cassettes. When the world feels like this. Static shocks and bitterness."

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    I think she's Gamma NT. Sp/so, of course

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    She's SLE-Ti.

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    SLE final

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    ENFJ
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    Actually now that I think of it, she totally looks ILI.
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    She made a huge mistake letting in a million muslims and it will be the ruination of her career. Muslims want the benefits of a democratic society without any of the responsibilty. These people are not the typical immigrants. The dont care for democracy, the dont believe in equal rights for women, they are entilled free loaders. And dont try and argue they are all from Syria: the migration out of North Africa tells another story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    She made a huge mistake letting in a million muslims and it will be the ruination of her career. Muslims want the benefits of a democratic society without any of the responsibilty. These people are not the typical immigrants. The dont care for democracy, the dont believe in equal rights for women, they are entilled free loaders. And dont try and argue they are all from Syria: the migration out of North Africa tells another story.
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    Macleans Magazine, The National Post, The Economist Magazine, CBC Radio, various news reports over the past several months (CTV - CBC- MSNBC - VICE - CNN - Liveleak.com (raw video, unedited)) Anywhere on the internet.

    Let's not assume that because I have a strong opinion means it is not well informed shall we? Critical thinking comes in many shapes and sizes.

    Anecdotal:


    Sunday, October 18, 2015
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    A Female Doctor Working in Germany Warns the World

    "Yesterday, at the hospital in Germany where I work,we had a meeting about how the influx of muslim immigrants from the middle east is simply unsustainable. Walk in Health Clinics cannot handle emergencies, being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of serious health emergencies, they are starting to send everything to the hospitals.


    Many muslims are refusing treatment by female staff here in Germany. The muslim men make sick, crude comments and overtures to the female staff members, because to them any non-muslim woman is a whore or a future slave. After brief exposure to these cruel, sadistic, female hating beats, we, women, are refusing to go among those animals, especially the muslim men from Africa.

    Relations between the female hospital staff and muslim immigrants are going from bad to worse. Since, the assault and unreported rapes of German women last weekend migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.


    Very high numbers of migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them.


    If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, when they learn they have to pay cash they become violent. They were told in the middle east that everything in Germany would be free. Everything would be handed to them on a silver platter.

    Finding out that they MUST pay for certain things leads to loud, violent, outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children. Many of these muslim immigrants kidnapped children, so that, their social benefits would be higher once they landed in Germany.
    Finding that they would have to pay for the children's drugs, they gave up the ruse and abandoned the children with pharmacy staff with the words: "So, cure them here yourselves!"


    Now, the police are not just guarding the clinics and hospitals, but also large pharmacies.


    Truly we said openly: Where are all those who had welcomed in front of TV cameras, with signs at train stations?! Yes, for now, the border has been closed, but a million of them are already here and we will definitely not be able to get rid of them.



    Until now, the number of unemployed in Germany was 2.2 million. Now it will be at least 3.5 million or higher. Most of these people are completely unemployable. A infinitesimal bare minimum of them have any education. What is more, their women usually do not work at all. I estimate that one in ten is pregnant with many children in tow.


    Hundreds of thousands of them have brought along infants and little kids under six, many emaciated and neglected. If this continues and German re-opens its borders, I'm going home to the Czech Republic. Nobody can keep me here in this situation, not even double the salary than at home. I went to Germany, not to Africa or the Middle East.


    Even the professor who heads our department told us how sad it makes him to see the cleaning woman, who for 800 Euros a month cleans every day for years. She has to pick up the refuse the muslim men discard every where they go. She has to serve the young muslim men in the hallways who stand there with their hand outstretched, demanding everything for free, and when they don't get it they throw a fit.

    They know Germany and her citizens are very civilized. Add to that the world is watching, so these vicious, lazy, muslim youths know if they scream shout, and threaten violence, the German people will cave in.


    I tell you, no one who has not come in contact with them has any idea what kind of animals they are, especially the ones from Africa, and how the muslim men and women act superior to our staff who are Christian. They look down upon us, verbally deride our Christian values and then demand that their every wish be granted immediately.

    If, Germans with our generous nature cannot handle this, then the rest of Europe will be total chaos.



    For now, the local hospital staff has not come down with the diseases they brought here, but, with so many hundreds of patients every day - this is just a question of time.


    In a hospital near the Rhine, migrants attacked the staff with knives after they had handed over an 8-month-old on the brink of death, which they had dragged across half of Europe for three months before seeking medical attention. The child died in two days, despite having received top care at one of the best pediatric clinics in Germany. The physician had to undergo surgery and two nurses are in the ICU. Nobody has been, and no one will be punished.


    The local press is forbidden to write about it!


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    And just to demonstrate the other side of things....

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10...n_8378792.html
    "Traffic lights and loneliness. Paper cans and tape cassettes. When the world feels like this. Static shocks and bitterness."

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    I think she is INTj or some sort of IxxJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    She made a huge mistake letting in a million muslims and it will be the ruination of her career.
    Agreed, I thought it was an incredibly reckless decision and one that I believe will ultimately prove terminal to Merkel's Chancellorship and even potentially terminal to the EU. The change in rhetoric coming out of Germany in the past 24-hours along with the announcements from the Austrian and Slovenian governments that they are building border fences, suggests other European governments are getting nervous about what is happening in political polling. I don't want to sidetrack too much into immigration over typing her, but a year ago when I was in Europe I was surprised by the surge in anti-immigration support, particularly by the u-turns my Swedish friends had with their views on immigration/asylum seekers.

    They'd gone from open and positive toward it to completely against it, all within a space of 2 years. One said his Jewish neighbours left their home after they experienced persistent threats and harassment by newly arrived refugees. Before they left, the Jewish school their children went to had sub-machine gun totting police protecting it due to threats. Another friend said violent and sexual crime had surged in the last few years and she didn't feel safe, adding there were ghettos and no-go zones popping up throughout Swedish cities.

    That was over a year ago and everything I've seen/read since suggests its got worse. There are clearly problems that don't seem to be getting addressed and Europe is turning to the far-right in response. Increasingly to me, its looking like it will end up very very ugly.
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    No I'm Se polr and I'm extremely sensitive to the penetrating sharp not at all soft gaze. This person is SLE. Look at those eyes they are evasive and prodding. I feel like they will suck all details about me and soon what they see as fragile person who they will want to help as the person who should be more willful. I feelthe criticism coming already.

    When my duals look at me directly they will often smile gently or they will not focus on my looks they may compliment me on what I wear if they find it nice or will say seriously what they observed like "you have been crying everyday, you're not happy, Maritsa."

    She's SLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    She made a huge mistake letting in a million muslims and it will be the ruination of her career. Muslims want the benefits of a democratic society without any of the responsibilty. These people are not the typical immigrants. The dont care for democracy, the dont believe in equal rights for women, they are entilled free loaders. And dont try and argue they are all from Syria: the migration out of North Africa tells another story.
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    I always thought SLI or ILI for her. I was personally leaning more towards SLI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    She made a huge mistake letting in a million muslims
    USA have ordered to shit Europe. Occupied by them in 1945 Germany said "ok". USSR removed military bases from Germany. USA not.
    What Europe gets with muslims? A little later Europe gets new Hithler and fascism wich removes/suppresses muslims by cost of ending socialistic reforms for ordinary people + higher exploitation + more social divergence + less real freedom for 90% of people + a little of genocide or archaized (up to 90% of "useless" or "bad for ecology") population. Remember what Breivik said? 2025 year or so. Not long to wait this artful plan. Some steps will be a little later, while nazis-like at power in Europe not later than 2030 I think. Maybe they make even some war in Europe - gives comfortable reason to restrict freedom and rob most people (similar process is in after-2001 USA).

    These people are not the typical immigrants.
    Most are. But not much military educated dudes are needed to make serious troubles. This "big" europe needs 50-100k of professionals in terrorism-sabotage-intelligence to create critical long problems. This terrorists studed and paid by USA will be used by them to control Europe, rob it and remove socialistic reforms there. Fascism (in all its cannibalistic senses) - this is a logical aim of capitalistic system, wich then transofrms to new feudalism. USSR was an impediment for this, for world fascistic antihumanistic oligarchic dictatorship, now there is no USSR and we see as Shitty New World comes. 10% will live good, by cost where 90% will live in total shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    FI HIDDEN AGENDA
    What the waa?
    "Traffic lights and loneliness. Paper cans and tape cassettes. When the world feels like this. Static shocks and bitterness."

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    Ne creative, rational subtype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    She's SLE-Ti.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    SLE final
    would an SLE allow immigrants to take over their country and their "territory" so easily?

    it's weak Se or no valued Se

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    would an SLE allow immigrants to take over their country and their "territory" so easily?

    it's weak Se or no valued Se
    Yes why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Yes why not?
    then they are not a SLE but another type

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    No a physicist, quantum chemist. Very interesting field but probably too approximate for a respectable physicist. Totally different. But yes beta ST. SLE, I think. I have worked for SLE chemist just like her. Tightly controlled and regulated lab, bit too much for me.

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    After reading a few biographies of her, I'd vote that she is ENTj, or at least very comfortable with the use of Te. She doesn't shy away from holding multiple positions of high power or making tough decisions that piss a lot of people off. Also, she does have a streak of stubborness about her and she refused to compromise her Christian values by participating in the rituals of a certain secular club that is often seen as a stepping stone to success, and also did poorly in a class on Marxism that she saw as indoctrinating because she didn't agree with its philosophy. So I see more Fi in her than Fe.

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    don't understand those who type this stupid cow to T types
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    I would change it from SLE to LSI. Makes more sense.

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    Probably LII.

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    She's an Intuitive type. LSIs keep everything under minute control, unlike Merkel who is causing chaos and havoc in Germany's future. SLE don't welcome unknown potentially dangerous hordes into their territory. Weight Merkel's humanistic open door policy against SLE Donald Trump's and his attitude towards immigrants coming to his country.



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    Merkel good cop, Schäuble bad cop.

    I think her past in research makes INTp look quite likely. Strong christian values probably base her in resolute quadra (gamma or delta). The VI I get from her is gamma irrational, either SEE or ILI.

    Agree that Se ego would have different politics...

    A little bit off topic, but be careful about your news sources these days. British and US media obviously has an anti-EU campaign going on, as well as Russian media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    Merkel who is causing chaos and havoc in Germany's future
    Germany has no sovereignty. It's not Merkel, it's USA weaken its competitor EU and establish new fascistic order in Europe. By a little chaos to revert democracy and socialistic reforms. Capitalistic oligarchy wants disctatorship, not when most people live good and have power.
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    Germans always have a crazy leader. This time it's Merkel.

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    Invite millions of unskilled, young, single Muslim men from the third world to a country full of scantily-clad women. Seems legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    Invite millions of unskilled, young, single Muslim men from the third world to a country full of scantily-clad women. Seems legit.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046

    "The scale of the attacks on women at the city's central railway station has shocked Germany.

    About 1,000 drunk and aggressive young men were involved. City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

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    as I said: new fascistic regime is creating in Europe
    Mein Kampf is no more illegal to sell in Germany!
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