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    Most strike me as having either an INFp or Delta flavor to them. A few off the top of my head:

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Confidence is key.

    Hard work always pays off

    What goes around comes around

    Perception is reality

    Where there's a will, there's a way

    What doesn’t kill me will only make me stronger

    Everything happens for a reason

    There’s no I in Team

    Time heals all wounds

    Good things come to those who wait

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    ...The rest of him is downright ugly.

    Confidence is key.
    To... ?

    Hard work always pays off
    Mine only paid off in worthless rupees though.

    What goes around comes around
    All things began in order, so shall they end, and so shall they begin again.

    Perception is reality
    All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.

    Everything happens for a reason
    ...Just not necessarily a good reason.

    There’s no I in Team
    ...But there is a "me".

    Time heals all wounds
    ...But not necessarily very well, so I'd go see a doctor about that before you end up with a crooked bone or something.

    Good things come to those who wait
    ...But they come faster to those who don't.


    While we're at it, I'd like to know what sociotype hates common platitudes like this.
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    Wyrd be burning it down, damn I'm taking notes aha

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    As for the flavor, I like none of these. They are either black/white, are too vulnerable to context, simplifying things, are misquotes, or don't resemble their original meaning anymore due to prolonged use in time.

    HOWEVER. I'd use all of them to crack a joke at the right moment in convo (perhaps even twisting it around) but I can't take them too seriously. As you say, platitudes. They're maybe good to describe something in brief but that's all. Or you can shut down a person who uses them with a better one The only thing I claim is the "confidence is key" line, that's a must as E3.

    50-50 territory for my IEE-ness I guess, I'd rather see it in Beta since lots of that is hinting at and .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    As for the flavor, I like none of these. They are either black/white, are too vulnerable to context, simplifying things, are misquotes, or don't resemble their original meaning anymore due to prolonged use in time.

    HOWEVER. I'd use all of them to crack a joke at the right moment in convo (perhaps even twisting it around) but I can't take them too seriously. As you say, platitudes. They're maybe good to describe something in brief but that's all. Or you can shut down a person who uses them with a better one The only thing I claim is the "confidence is key" line, that's a must as E3.

    50-50 territory for my IEE-ness I guess, I'd rather see it in Beta since lots of that is hinting at and .
    Yeah. I just noticed I accidentally missed this one:

    What doesn’t kill me will only make me stronger
    I like the original, but that's not how you say that. And you didn't simplify it either.

    There. Some of them work in certain contexts, but then it's not a platitude, it's a quote, and you actually have to think about it.
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    This thread also reminds me of how a lot of "enlightened" suburbanites say "non-striving" to mean "don't do anything". The Taoist meaning is kind of cool, even though I'm not particularly into Taoism, but it doesn't mean what people use it to mean at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    Yeah. I just noticed I accidentally missed this one:











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    I am beyond sick of these phrases. They suck. You can say any of them in any situation when you have nothing original to contribute. These are half truths, with plenty of room for counter-arguments. People have been saying these same weak ass mottos for way too long. TBH, I catch myself saying these and then I think "Why did you just do that? That doesn't help anyone at all..."

    I have my own set of phrases I use, mostly to set boundaries and say exactly what I mean without having to get into a long discussion.
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    tbh I hate sayings like these. I'd rather somebody be a lot more original. They're so IEE Oprah-y.

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    I think most of them are true. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Dunno, maybe it takes purpose-seeking Ni DS meatlords to appreciate or see their validity. Fwiw though I hear these from Te leads the most often.

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    I feel like everyone gets exactly what they want

    in the moral sense. freak occurrences happen of course, but in general people are responsible not from where they start but pretty much from then on what happens to them and it seems like they want it that way, whether they know it or not

    that's my empty and obtuse platitude I really believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    Most strike me as having either an INFp or Delta flavor to them. A few off the top of my head:

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    Sure, this one's right.

    Confidence is key.
    Confidence is powerful but it is the cherry on top of the fundamentals.
    Hard work always pays off
    Hard work doesn't pay off if your timing sucks or nobody wants what you're buying

    What goes around comes around
    There's no god-installed moral assembly line. Someone can fuck you over and he and you live the rest of your lives respectively better and worse.

    Perception is reality
    Yes, but this is a double-edged sword if you're trying to make yourself feel better, because if you think you're not stupid and someone does, what they think is just as valid as what you think.
    Where there's a will, there's a way
    In an infinite amount of time, you have a very high percentage of success. But factors conspire to make that timeframe much more local, and this is directly voided by competition between those who want to accomplish the same thing before the other.
    What doesn’t kill me will only make me stronger
    No. You may get stronger in recovery, but the question is whether you are a stronger person after recovery, but this is by no means guaranteed.
    Everything happens for a reason
    Again, yes. But not much of a solace when that reason is impartial and disconnected from your situation.

    There’s no I in Team
    Strong teamwork is useful, however depending on the level of task completion you consider success, part of that success could involve selfish action by a member of the team to pull a move that forces the team to realign with bigger and better goals and results.
    Time heals all wounds
    This one's harder to object to, but you might have some situations where people cannot heal an emotional wound because of some quirk in their psychological makeup. Also, fatal head wounds.
    Good things come to those who wait
    Not if someone beats you to them.
    Felt like taking a crack at these. I know it's not the point of the thread but whatever.

    Usually when I tell someone a platitude I hope the half-truth quality will be looked past since the whole truth often takes a while to spell out. For example, where there's a will, there's a way means: When you feel like giving up, put more effort into it.
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    sry I gotta be difficult and change every one of these to be more bnd-friendly. Feel free to agree/disagree but this is my pov.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; Somewhat but there is an objective standard of attraction or porn wouldn't be what it is. Just go to any mainstream porn site and you will find what most of us find beautiful. It can be bland/boring/too vanilla to some people but other beauty is in the minority or otherwise they'd have the guys/girls looking differently than what they actually are.

    Confidence is key: no shit but sometimes somebody's confidence was taken away from them and to build it u need to show compassion and actually show them how to do it instead of 'just be more confident' like a narcissistic fuckwit.

    Hard work always pays off: NO it doesn't. Hard work doesn't pay off at all, learning how to effectively manipulate other people does. So many ppl are working hard in dead end jobs that go no where while being exploited by a narcissist.

    What goes around comes around
    : Only if you take justice in your own hands. Beware Renee I'm coming for you.

    Perception is reality: Reality is reality. How stupid.

    Where there's a will, there's a way: Probably the best one so far. Yeah willpower is important.

    What doesn’t kill me will only make me stronger:
    Maybe when it come to pettily getting ur feelings hurt but if i chopped off both your arms and made you walk on your knees for the rest of your life just to please me, I think you'd think otherwise. And sadly there are lots of people who are planning to do that this very moment, or something else similar.

    Everything happens for a reason:
    No. just a bs phrase to make the world more meaningful than it really is.

    There’s no I in Team: teamwork is dumb, everybody is a narc out for themselves and your same "friends' will always backstab you brutally to make their own narcissism stronger. But I don't wanna sound too cynical, socialization and affection for everypony is still important.

    Time heals all wounds: i guess yeah. but im still waiting. Emotional abuse can be a lot trickery to fix.

    Good things come to those who wait:
    Somewhat okay, but i like 'waiting is erotic' better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets View Post
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; Somewhat but there is an objective standard of attraction or porn wouldn't be what it is. Just go to any mainstream porn site and you will find what most of us find beautiful. It can be bland/boring/too vanilla to some people but other beauty is in the minority or otherwise they'd have the guys/girls looking differently than what they actually are.
    This is pretty much what I said about context mattering.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets View Post

    What doesn’t kill me will only make me stronger:
    Maybe when it come to pettily getting ur feelings hurt but if i chopped off both your arms and made you walk on your knees for the rest of your life just to please me, I think you'd think otherwise. And sadly there are lots of people who are planning to do that this very moment, or something else similar.
    The problem with this one is that they changed the tense. The point is that what doesn't kill you (present tense) makes you stronger (present tense) and it's a meeting of opposites, like squaring the circle, lead to gold, Heaven and Earth, etc. By changing it to will, they're putting their strength somewhere in the future and denying the present moment, which is pretty much the antithesis of what this is supposed to mean. When I said that parroting is not understanding, this is the kind of thing I mean...

    Perception is reality: Reality is reality. How stupid.
    Word. OK, very few people here will get that.

    Good things come to those who wait: Somewhat okay, but i like 'waiting is erotic' better.


    Where is this from even?


    tbh I hate sayings like these. I'd rather somebody be a lot more original. They're so IEE Oprah-y.
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    I think most of them are true. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Dunno, maybe it takes purpose-seeking Ni DS meatlords to appreciate or see their validity. Fwiw though I hear these from Te leads the most often.
    The problem is context. Most of these work in some (if very few) contexts but not in others. And I think context is about too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets View Post
    sry I gotta be difficult and change every one of these to be more bnd-friendly. Feel free to agree/disagree but this is my pov.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; Somewhat but there is an objective standard of attraction or porn wouldn't be what it is. Just go to any mainstream porn site and you will find what most of us find beautiful. It can be bland/boring/too vanilla to some people but other beauty is in the minority or otherwise they'd have the guys/girls looking differently than what they actually are.

    Confidence is key: no shit but sometimes somebody's confidence was taken away from them and to build it u need to show compassion and actually show them how to do it instead of 'just be more confident' like a narcissistic fuckwit.

    Hard work always pays off: NO it doesn't. Hard work doesn't pay off at all, learning how to effectively manipulate other people does. So many ppl are working hard in dead end jobs that go no where while being exploited by a narcissist.

    What goes around comes around
    : Only if you take justice in your own hands. Beware Renee I'm coming for you.

    Perception is reality: Reality is reality. How stupid.

    Where there's a will, there's a way: Probably the best one so far. Yeah willpower is important.

    What doesn’t kill me will only make me stronger:
    Maybe when it come to pettily getting ur feelings hurt but if i chopped off both your arms and made you walk on your knees for the rest of your life just to please me, I think you'd think otherwise. And sadly there are lots of people who are planning to do that this very moment, or something else similar.

    Everything happens for a reason:
    No. just a bs phrase to make the world more meaningful than it really is.

    There’s no I in Team: teamwork is dumb, everybody is a narc out for themselves and your same "friends' will always backstab you brutally to make their own narcissism stronger. But I don't wanna sound too cynical, socialization and affection for everypony is still important.

    Time heals all wounds: i guess yeah. but im still waiting. Emotional abuse can be a lot trickery to fix.

    Good things come to those who wait:
    Somewhat okay, but i like 'waiting is erotic' better.
    Some of these are just

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrd View Post
    The problem is context. Most of these work in some (if very few) contexts but not in others. And I think context is about too.
    This is not a problem. Use your brain and select the appropriate context.

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    “Who said that time heals all wounds? It would be better to say that time heals everything except wounds. With time, the hurt of separation loses its real limits. With time, the desired body will soon disappear, and if the desiring body has already ceased to exist for the other, then what remains is a wound... disembodied.”


    A lot of these sayings have been said by great minds. Like good things come to those who wait. Tolstoy said the two greatest warriors are time and patience.
    'Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets View Post
    sry I gotta be difficult and change every one of these to be more bnd-friendly. Feel free to agree/disagree but this is my pov.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; Somewhat but there is an objective standard of attraction or porn wouldn't be what it is. Just go to any mainstream porn site and you will find what most of us find beautiful. It can be bland/boring/too vanilla to some people but other beauty is in the minority or otherwise they'd have the guys/girls looking differently than what they actually are.

    Confidence is key: no shit but sometimes somebody's confidence was taken away from them and to build it u need to show compassion and actually show them how to do it instead of 'just be more confident' like a narcissistic fuckwit.

    Hard work always pays off: NO it doesn't. Hard work doesn't pay off at all, learning how to effectively manipulate other people does. So many ppl are working hard in dead end jobs that go no where while being exploited by a narcissist.

    What goes around comes around
    : Only if you take justice in your own hands. Beware Renee I'm coming for you.

    Perception is reality: Reality is reality. How stupid.

    Where there's a will, there's a way: Probably the best one so far. Yeah willpower is important.

    What doesn’t kill me will only make me stronger:
    Maybe when it come to pettily getting ur feelings hurt but if i chopped off both your arms and made you walk on your knees for the rest of your life just to please me, I think you'd think otherwise. And sadly there are lots of people who are planning to do that this very moment, or something else similar.

    Everything happens for a reason:
    No. just a bs phrase to make the world more meaningful than it really is.

    There’s no I in Team: teamwork is dumb, everybody is a narc out for themselves and your same "friends' will always backstab you brutally to make their own narcissism stronger. But I don't wanna sound too cynical, socialization and affection for everypony is still important.

    Time heals all wounds: i guess yeah. but im still waiting. Emotional abuse can be a lot trickery to fix.

    Good things come to those who wait:
    Somewhat okay, but i like 'waiting is erotic' better.
    good lord, i was going to say the same things...
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    I don't know if these are accurately representative of the ILI sociotype, or any function or subgroup, but they are my most treasured platitudes that I've come up with -- of course, I have no claim of originality, quite the opposite.

    I had very different but equally boring favourites two years ago -- a lot has changed since, and a lot didn't, and a lot of them are the same.





    I especially adore the first one.


    Anything goes.

    You only live once: Forever.

    Everything is in between.

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    I noticed the correlation also with the "eye of the beholder"

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