Delta Villains?

[Chae]

Make Delta evil again!!

...eh. Just kidding.

But are there actually some archetypal fictional baddies in our quadra? It would be interesting to see how their wickedness plays out given that they devalue confontational , scheming vision and grand people player as it is typically perceived as rogue, refering to the stereotyped villain association of Beta which should be given a break.

Who I came up with is Christoph Waltz in multiple roles I think he portrays Delta's playful psychological/interpersonal intricacy (Ne and Fi) plus physical ruthlessness of efficiency (Si with Te) very well. Playing the villains, he usually manages to make his opponents uncomfortable body- and mindwise until they break.



Starter pack: A list of villains to maybe collect typings and inspiration from.

[Bertrand]

delta villiany is going along with beta merely so as to not disrupt their own equilibrium, i.e.: every Nazi and Communist who never believed in the cause but enforced it or failed to speak against it anyway

[Singu]

Well I think Delta villainy is more... collective, tends towards more ostracizing, socially bullying, snobbish against those who are in the "lower ranks", "evil mother-in-law" kind of behavior.

[Beautiful sky]

Edward Norton LSE played a Neo Nazi in American history X

[uncivilized]

Sandman in Spider-Man 3 seemed SLI. He might be more of an anti-villain, though, in the sense that he merely wanted to help his daughter obtain the mountains of cash she needed for medical treatment. I think you could argue the real villain in the movie is the system that forced him into committing crime.

[Pallas]

delta villiany is going along with beta merely so as to not disrupt their own equilibrium, i.e.: every Nazi and Communist who never believed in the cause but enforced it or failed to speak against it anyway

If there were a dislike button on this site, I'd press it twice for this post.

[Singu]

If there were a dislike button on this site, I'd press it twice for this post.

It's more likely that Nazism was actually Delta ideals enforced by Beta, like an innate sense of racial superiority and xenophobia. But obviously that has essentially to do with far-right ideologies.

[Bertrand]

It's more likely that Nazism was actually Delta ideals enforced by Beta, like an innate sense of racial superiority and xenophobia. But obviously that has essentially to do with far-right ideologies.

what is it with betas and taking responsibility

[DirectorAbbie]

[Chae]

Aiming at LSE is probably Vader:

[Chae]

delta villiany is going along with beta merely so as to not disrupt their own equilibrium, i.e.: every Nazi and Communist who never believed in the cause but enforced it or failed to speak against it anyway

Well I think Delta villainy is more... collective, tends towards more ostracizing, socially bullying, snobbish against those who are in the "lower ranks", "evil mother-in-law" kind of behavior.

Babes, read my description properly next time. This thread is for concrete fictional examples and archetypes, not IRL history and society.

[Pookie]

The DMV

[Eliza Thomason]

Make Delta evil again!!

...eh. Just kidding.

But are there actually some archetypal fictional baddies in our quadra? It would be interesting to see how their wickedness plays out given that they devalue confontational , scheming vision and grand people player as it is typically perceived as rogue, refering to the stereotyped villain association of Beta which should be given a break.

Who I came up with is Christoph Waltz in multiple roles I think he portrays Delta's playful psychological/interpersonal intricacy (Ne and Fi) plus physical ruthlessness of efficiency (Si with Te) very well. Playing the villains, he usually manages to make his opponents uncomfortable body- and mindwise until they break.



Starter pack: A list of villains to maybe collect typings and inspiration from.

He looks a doppelganger of a LSE neighbor/friend.

[Beautiful sky]

Aiming at LSE is probably Vader:

I don't think that LSE's would choose evil side. They are clever and smart and would play the evil side and then walk away lol

LSE's typically have strong morals however there are a few bad seeds and those just don't have the energy to keep it up as unpleasant feelings deteriorate the overall mood and vital energy

[Chae]

I don't think that LSE's would choose evil side. They are clever and smart and would play the evil side and then walk away lol

LSE's typically have strong morals however there are a few bad seeds and those just don't have the energy to keep it up as unpleasant feelings deteriorate the overall mood and vital energy

The regular LSE doesn't get their limbs cut off by their mentor only to get seduced by this guy:



So Darthy is obviously a special case of villainousness, he has some solid reasons

[Chae]

He looks a doppelganger of a LSE neighbor/friend.

Yeah, the expression is just... dang Creasetopher Walters, your Te chin game is strong!



Uncanny!

[Not A Communist Shill]

I don't think that LSE's would choose evil side. They are clever and smart and would play the evil side and then walk away lol

LSE's typically have strong morals however there are a few bad seeds and those just don't have the energy to keep it up as unpleasant feelings deteriorate the overall mood and vital energy

I don't think type apartheid should be allowed to continue with any level of seriousness. That would obviously be rather de-humanising and not at all constructive.

[Beautiful sky]

I don't think type apartheid should be allowed to continue with any level of seriousness. That would obviously be rather de-humanising and not at all constructive.

I like apartheid it speaks to my aristocratic nature

Why don't you go hang out with your democratic quadrant and take joy in your democratic tendencies and beliefs

This is an aristocratic thread

We're making Delta evil and we're excluding you because you are a prude

[Not A Communist Shill]

I think examples will include Lawful Evil, Lawful Neutral characters and systems, and perhaps Choatic characters and systems who in the eyes of the hero are limiting personal freedoms or messing about with the Truth. Forms of collectivism (as @Singularity suggested) and individuals in a vein similar to Robin Hood could be examples.

[Not A Communist Shill]

I like apartheid it speaks to my aristocratic nature

Why don't you go hang out with your democratic quadrant and take joy in your democratic tendencies and beliefs

This is an aristocratic thread

I can't say I have time for the Reinin dichotomies. I also don't see why you insist on believing you know everyone better than they know themselves. It doesn't seem like a remotely realistic position to hold in general.

[DirectorAbbie]

Aiming at LSE is probably Vader:

Not if Vader and Anakin are the same person. That kid's an Fe/Ni.

[Chae]

Not if Vader and Anakin are the same person. That kid's an Fe/Ni.

I considered this, he switched character from Beta to Delta extro It's the time difference, Vader came first and Anakin later so there's no coherency.

[Singu]

I've always thought that Vader was EIE... but I don't know too much about Star Wars.

The movie "Dogville" is actually a Delta village gone wrong... but there's no clear villain or anything.

[DirectorAbbie]

I've always thought that Vader was EIE...

Yes. EIE for Vader/Anakin makes sense.

[Not A Communist Shill]

Other types of villains may include asocial or apathetic characters, characters who delight in their pleasures at the expense of others (e.g. "The Town", or as some other unrighteous lust), perhaps taking advantage of their position in The System and maintaining the status quo (generally something depicted as oppressive).

I was going to suggest that film genres such as the Western, the Space Opera, War, and Jidaigeki films may be full of examples, but I realised that this would be true of any quadra.