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    Block EGO * the 1st position * program function "business logic"

    The business calculation Of shtirlitsa first of all is based on its personal volitional qualities, on its skill to lead, to require, to pack its personal labor, on its skill to distribute resources and to use reserves, independent of objective economic conditions, regardless of the fact, they are favorable or not. The main thing so that they would be stable. (in contrast to the jack, whose business calculation is based on the strong intuition, on the skill to be adapted to constant changes and to use them with the benefit for itself; on the maximum use of objective conditions and possibilities.)

    The most exceptional fitness for work and business activity distinguish representatives of this type. The volume of their work is limited neither time nor number of its own forces. Impression is created, that they want to alter entire work, which only falls in their field of sight.

    Their business activity is limitless and not exhausted. After beginning to make something, they constantly open for themselves new tasks and possibilities go deeply into the process of work in the manner that as if they dig out "gold vein".

    They lead any work to the highest professionalism. The volume of their knowledge shakes! In any matter they manifest exceptional exactingness and samootdachu: "everything that I make, I do well". "victory expects that, in whom all in the order, and this is called success" (Amundsen).

    Entire sense of their life - in the work, in the labor, in the occupation by the selected matter. People of this type usually do not understand, how it is possible to work in half-strength. Irresponsible relation to the labor in principle is not recognized. The one who works "haphazardly", in their understanding not at all of men. It does be worthwhile to speak about their relation to any "khalyavchikam" and lazy persons - these people for them exist at the completely antipole. (at the ripe age Of shtirlitsy they usually no longer expend its forces on the fight with them - nevertheless entire evil in the light you will not eradicate, but there are the matters and more important)

    The selfless labor Of shtirlits is considered standard Therefore, as a rule, it is meager to the praise and the encouragement (instructors of this type usually is assigned work in the dual volume) only, which does encourage Shtirlits, this counter initiative (if it it did charge to make a task in two versions, and you it did make into four - fine person, but following time these four versions they will be already your standard) of course it is possible to orient Shtirlitsa, also, to that so that it would give the smaller volume of work (that magnificently it does know how to make its conflict? Esenin), but its this orientation usually pricks up ears and greatly he disturbs - time departs, and work is accumulated.

    The enormous volume of the work Of shtirlits is counted by way of things - both for itself and for others. Only to closest people, and into the rarest minutes, it can be complained to the fatigue. (overloads and overvoltage they accompany these people entire life)

    Usually, when Shtirlits sees that in someone the work is not obtained, it selects and makes itself, in this case in detail showing and explaining, as it is necessary this to make. (Shtirlits in contrast to Zhukov never it teaches, "as must to live" - it he learns, "as necessary to make" one or other matter or another)

    On the part of the invention of procedures representatives of this type out of the competition. Positive property of shtirlitsevskikh method of operations - skill to maximally use the available reserves and possibilities. (for example, an instructor of this type it can require the fulfillment of complex targets by the precisely most accessible means, but otherwise, in his opinion, to work you will not learn)

    The effectiveness of shtirlitsevskikh procedures often simply strikes with its results using minimum possibilities, it reaches the naivysochayshikh results only because of its procedure and quantity of inserted labor.

    Developing its procedures, Shtirlits subconsiously is oriented for people, which know how to design its forces, possibility and the time of the fulfillment of work (as this makes its dual Dostoyevsky).

    And this circumstance must be taken into the attention - otherwise, movement to its procedures leads to the overloads and overvoltage on no account should be copied failure in the work on "doubtfulness" of shtirlitsevskikh procedures to say nothing of the fact that charge is exceptionally painfully its ranite, it will be in the root incorrect: never and under no circumstances Of shtirlits it will recommend that, of what it is not personally convinced on the basis of repeatedly checked experience. Therefore never it is not possible it to scold for the "irresponsible" business councils - such advice it in principle of giving is capable (another matter - if someone something incorrectly he understood, but this no longer its fault)

    Representatives of this type are characterized by the extremely high degree of personal responsibility. That that by them obeshchano, is carried out always and with any circumstances. To promise and but carry out they cannot. Shtirlitsy are pedantic and demanding in everything, concerning mutual commitments. It is very executive and distsiplinirovanny Of shtirlitsy do not love, when to them they are turned with the trifling request, since they relate too seriously to any commission. They themselves never are turned to the strange aid without the good enough causes. They prefer to solve their problems by its own forces and the same they require from others.

    They do not believe in the easy success. The value of any work, any work for them is determined by a quantity of inserted labor. "if everything seems lungs, this error-free proves, that the worker is very little skillful and the work his higher than understanding" (Lednardo.da.vinchi). If work is carried out too rapidly, Shtirlits begins to search for in it deficiencies and, as a rule, finds.

    Professionalism and business qualities of colleagues wonderfully are evaluated. (but sometimes "they are bought" to the showy zeal) they highly value competence in different field of knowledges. They themselves frequently strike with comprehensive erudition.

    Any aspect of work is evaluated from the point of view of its expediency. They do not undertake the useless matters. Their behavior be commensurate first of all by expediency and by business interests. Technical specifications for a maximally productive work magnificently organize.

    Shtirlits is not capable to sit without the matter - it is constantly ready to activity. It possesses exceptional energy. (if, for example, it organizes colleagues to the general harvesting, itself actively in it it participates.)

    Not molly-coddle and not beloruchka. It is always exacting both to itself and to others. The attention of those surrounding to the deficiencies and the unresolved problems constantly are turned, it criticizes colleagues for the insufficient activity, for the absence of initiative and business enthusiasm.

    In the work it is characterized by irreproachable accuracy. The quality control of work no one it entrusts checks both itself and partners. Its own work it is possible not to check.

    The quality of its work is not considered the limit of perfection. If someone of its environment carries out work more qualitatively than it itself, at this it only sincerely is glad, but it does not love, when by this they brag.

    Reporting for the accomplished work, does not forget to transfer entire that made, to turn attention to the successes and achievements.

    It does not make possible for its mood to influence its own fitness for work. (but the fitness for work of colleagues its poor mood it usually very strongly influences.)

    Carrying out critical work, never it designs for improvisation, success or inspiration, but only to the timely beginning and the hard work. (with the concept "timely beginning" in Shtirlitsa not all it proceeds satisfactorily - sometimes begins work too early, when the process of preparation for it is not yet finished and many data of the forthcoming matter to it are insufficiently clear.)

    Any matter attempts to bring to the end, it will not allow itself to throw work on the middle. (although being it is overloaded by other tasks, it can charge to subordinate to finish its work, makes this extremely rarely and unwillingly.) It does not love, when with one incomplete work they charge another to it.

    Block EGO * 2-4 positions * creative funktsiya*"Sensorika of sensations"
    Aesthetics for the representatives of this type has enormous value. Everything, which not makes Shtirlits, must be flawlessly beautifully. Technology, craftsmanship are ground by it to infinity.

    Impression is created, that it is assembled to beat all records of beauty and greatly is disturbed, if the quality of its work does not correspond to its own creative concepts: "not one human hand cannot bring work to the complete perfection" (Lednardo.da.vinchi). And nevertheless tendency toward the aesthetical perfection is characteristic for the representatives of this type.

    The aesthetics of its own way of life has enormous value for it. Regardless of the fact, as whom it works - by unskilled worker or by minister, Shtirlits is always pulled and neat in the clothing.

    Representatives of this type know how to bear clothing exceptionally accurately - so that one and the same thing serves as them many years and appears to the surprise of new. It dresses high-quality and elegantly, without the pretentiousnesses and the excesses. To strive for mode not in its rules. (in its tastes Of shtirlits is very conservative, it adheres to its own aesthetical standards.)

    The basic style of clothing - classical, but it is characterized by quality and high quality of sewing ("expensive modesty"). Many women love business style, inconspicuous, but expensive adornments. The cosmetic and the perfumes are selected with the large taste. (the distinguishing feature of women -Wtirliqev - ability to preserve its beauty to the oldest age)

    Tastes, as habit, change unwillingly. To the new gustatory senses it relates suspiciously and sometimes with the prejudice. Each time, trying unknown dish, it preliminarily is interested, which this such and from what is prepared. If, in its understanding, this not is edible, he tries to refuse in the delicate form. The dear and customary food To shtirlitsu never annoys, and its its monotony does not confuse.

    All representatives of this type distinguish straight carriage and widely straightened arms. They walk with the proudly raised head, if they turn around, then usually by entire housing. Men of this type are characterized by carriage, even if never they served in the army.

    To the exterior view of surrounding Shtirlits it is exacting not less than to its own appearance: it can refuse in the assignment of work to person, who arrived to the interview to those slovenly dressed, even if this is the specialist of high class, also, with the outstanding recommendations.

    Beauty, refinement, aesthetics, splendid taste they constantly accompany representatives of this type. This - that which them surrounds, then that it is created by their hands.

    Family dinner - ceremonial- holiday situation. The best dishes is advanced to the table, firm dishes are prepared - everything must be at the summit level (in some even everyday supper it serves as ceremonial).

    Superfluously to speak about what splendid kulinarki, forewoman and umelitsy of a representative of this type. Moreover To shtirlitsu it is usually insufficient that taste, by which it is allotted from nature: many of them additionally learn any artistic crafts that their professional orientation sometimes sharply changes. (teacher of mathematics it began to take the lessons of drawing, then it learned to compose bouquets, then it went to the policies of ceramics and potter matter, then it developed and it patented its own ceramic technology, then it opened ceramic factory on the production of dishes, after which it were trained for a new profession to the production of ceramic sculpture and souvenirs.)

    Cleanliness, order, the expensive and high-quality comfort of the qualities, which Shtirlits is considered required for its house. In its house must be everything, which can be required in all cases of life. ("my house - my fortress".) Neither empty shelves nor empty refrigerator in its house it occurs. Shtirlits always remembers, what reserves it is necessary to supplement. The surpluses, which in it lie along time, it ejects only in the case of confidence, which in the economy this cannot be used. Products it buys only best quality, without considering the price, but in small quantities. (so that it was not necessary then to eject.)

    Economy conducts very economically and prudently.

    Its health tries not to start. Great significance is attached to preventive maintenance and sport.

    To be ill not to love - usually it leaves to the work, hardly after beginning to get better. (if its subordinated more than three-four days they sit too long on the hospital, it receives this as desertion from the working front)

    Representatives of this type are characterized by exceptional endurance and preserve splendid physical form, also, at the oldest age. (Shtirlits, which is complained about its health, very rare phenomenon and only in the case of actually serious problems.)

    Loves journeys, active and comfortable leisure. It regularly attends exhibitions and theatrical premiers. Always in the course of cultural and public life.

    Block Of superego*e-ya pozitsiya*Normativnaya function * the "ethics of emotions"
    In the unfamiliar company he tries to develop the role of such bodryachka, undispairing jovial merry fellow, it jokes, it smiles. He tries to be maximally polite and amiable with all. New familiar patiently it listens, regardless of the fact, it is interesting to it or not, it nods agreement, it agrees, sympathy is expressed. If to it they tell any dusheshchipatel'nuyu history, it reacts in the manner that one should, in his opinion, react in this situation - it can burst into tears, moreover it is sufficiently demonstrative. (and although in the depth of the soul Of shtirlits is actually sentimental, it do not consider it necessary this to hide, at least, in its nearest environment.)

    Especially vividly its sentimentality is manifested in the situation of family celebrations or meetings in the friendly to the circle: when they congratulate it, they mention about its merits, manifest to it their respect and honors, face Of shtirlitsa assumes childlishly happy expression and its positive emotions begin to acquire some completely unpredictable forms. Its this state so strongly disturbs, that involuntarily appears its desire somehow slightly to quiet (which magnificently feels and makes its dual Dostoyevsky). It is very vulnerable and defenseless at the moment of this emotional lift Of shtirlits. Usually recollection about experience of idyll it preserves sufficiently for long and even some time it shares by its impressions with those surrounding. (from the side it can even seem that its rastrogannost' is somewhat exaggerated, but do not give god to express distrust to his enthusiastic state and these to spoil to it holiday - it will be more than uyazvlen: its ecstasy immediately will pass into the extreme irritation, since it will immediately feel itself it will very uncomfortably and compulsorily find any method to take vengeance for the damaged mood)

    In the sphere of their fixed contacts Of shtirlitsy they usually hold the sharply stressed, sometimes slightly raised tone of contact. It is very quick tempered. Moreover they can flare up on any occasion: greatly they do not love, when ohm object, to say nothing of with them arguing. (to argue with Shtirlitsami is generally dangerous for the life. As has already been spoken, their observations and recommendations are repeatedly rechecked by their own experience; therefore they consider their point of view singularly correct and they are ready to defend it even with the cams, which occurs fairly often, the level of their formation and culture in this case of value not having:"... My nachal'nitsa (Shtirlits), dear, intelligent woman with the scientific degree and two university diplomas, suddenly pressed cam and was swung back in response to my objection: "thus you it beat!")

    The situation, when it they tell "truth into the eyes", it survives exceptionally painfully. This "pravdolyubiye" is received by it as the inadmissible impudence, roughness, impudence as its kind the "declaration of war". Listening "truth" about itself, usually they try to be maximally restrained and anything not to reveal their anger, but this "restraint" Of shtirlitsa is considerably more dangerous than its unrestrained fury.

    To shtirlitsam it is incredibly difficult to hold in control its negative emotions. They this entire life learn, moreover not especially successfully. How many close friends, reliable partners and executive workers they lose before they are succeeded in bringing up restraint in itself.

    By them to more easily hide its deep grief, than its sudden irritation. Shtirlitsy not whimperers. (they can twenty years live and conflicting relations, also, in this case to preserve the visibility of satisfactory family.)

    Shtirlitsy usually do not complain about the poor health. (although sometimes they can tell with the trembling in the voice about their poor cardiogram or the poor analyses. However, this rather it is inherent in elderly women, and a young representative of this type, after arriving to the occupations with the plastered hand, with the smile reports that here, it is said, motorcycle broke, but so nothing special it occurred.)

    Shtirlits is touchy, but it is easily appeased. He tries not to for long hold evil, however this they depend on the depth of the offence substituted to it.

    To comfort and to express condolence does not love, since it is not confident, which cans this well to make. But if it comes, this makes very uniquely - he indicates the production or professional indices: "look, what successes you make, look, as all are contented by your work, what you are disturbed! Here you will see, everything will be good!"

    Anger and fury usually manifests only in the extreme situation - for example, in order to mobilize partner, if some concrete difficulties appear.

    He tries to subordinate to emotion to reason. From the emotional lift greatly it gets tired. It does not complain about the poor mood. It prefers not to be extended on its reasons. Straightens to itself mood by leisure and by the dear music.

    Block Of superego*ya-ya the pozitsiya*Mobilizatsionnaya function * the "intuition of time"
    Representatives of this type frequently say that even if a day were forty eight hour, by them nevertheless did not be sufficient.

    That volume of work, which they usually will intend to carry out, is not plotted in the periods assigned by them. The problem Of shtirlitsev in the fact that they do not desire to allow time factor. Time - their bitten enemy: they want to bring work to the irreproachable quality, but periods this do not allow. They compose to themselves a maximally stressed operating schedule, therefore, however accurately they planned their time, constantly occur cover plates in its distribution.

    Establishing the day standard of output, Shtirlits, as a rule, considers neither preparation time for the work nor reductions in the working rates in connection with the fatigue and the overvoltage, ignores the time of interruption to the dinner, to say nothing of other unforeseen expenditures of time. Sometimes there are the completely unpleasant incidents, when it assigns to its subordinates questions of the type: "how much it is possible to stir on the telephone?!" or "how long continues your smoke break?" When the matter concerns the expenditure of operating time, Shtirlits is capable to the exceptional unceremoniousness - up to the hint to the fact that subordinated too for long sits too long in the toilet.

    Impression is created, that Shtirlits experiences disappointment every time that in its employees workday concludes or they ask for leave into the leave or into legal annual leave. (into the leave Of shtirlitsy are released its workers extremely unwillingly.)

    Most terrible misdeed in understanding Of shtirlitsa - careless relation to the operating time. If a deficiency in the professionalism and some technical errors in the work Of shtirlits even somehow is suffer, then the squandering of operating time or (that still worse) the addition of workers it is hour - the most terrible in its eyes crime.

    Low productivity - sufficient occasion for the release.

    Many its failures Of shtirlits it copies to the time factor. The missed time survives very painfully. It constantly sums up the sums and it is constantly dissatisfied by results.

    Time - this the most expensive and scarcest of in all, that he has. Shtirlits never will be allowed themselves to misuse whose- or by time. Person, who does not consider the strange time, in his idea - great social evil. (Shtirlitsa always agitates, how it is possible to appoint two business meetings simultaneously in the different places. If this occurred on whose- or the forgetfulness or the absent-mindedness - this nevertheless unpardonably.)

    Delay it receives just as the underweight of products or miscounting money. Delay - this is the stolen time (neither more nor less). Itself tries to be maximally punctual, at least in the initial stage of relations.

    Any unforeseen expenditure of the time Of shtirlits survives exceptionally painfully. The need for working in the compressed periods drives it into panic. Tries to begin the work in advance of ("... the work on the diploma project she beginning earlier than all in the course. Even before the technical specifications of project reported, in it was already almost everything prepared, true, then, to it much it was necessary to alter anew...")

    The expenditure of time in Shtirlitsa first of all is determined by its expediency. The time, spent on work, studies or to the private affairs, in its understanding, is spent expediently.

    To suffer cannot expend time for nothing. With the people, which misuse by strange time, he tries not to associate and to not at all have any matters.

    With entire interest in the public life and the political events, Shtirlitsu it is difficult to go "into the foot in the course of time". In the depth of soul it conservative and is not always ready to recognize proceeding around the change. (reason, for which Margaret tetcher parted with the post of prime minister)

    To shtirlitsu is convenient the partner, who is capable not only to see global changes with time, but also to convince him to consider them, as this magnificently makes Dostoyevsky. Punctual, required, delicate and nenavyazchivyy in the contact, it constantly reminds Shtirlitsu about its most pressing matters, follows the most optimum expenditure of its time. It follows its order of day, trying so that it not would be overloaded by the work.

    (Shtirlits itself, however thoroughly it planned the order of its day, is always overloaded by its matters, even if this is the day of its rest. Still more badly it is obtained, when Shtirlits paints program measure for someone other: one of the representatives of this type, assuming in itself guests relative (Robesp'era), organized by it leisure, so oversaturated by any measures, by excursions and by visits, that with its guest in two days occurred the nervous disruption, which was ended by family quarrel and actual gap of relations.)

    Dostoyevsky corrects the order of the day Of shtirlitsa, forces it to be counted his physical possibilities, it requires paying greater attention to its health and to leisure.

    Block OF SUPERID*SHCH-YA pozitsiya*Suggestivnaya function * the "ethics of relations"
    To construct its personal interrelations to representatives of this type is very difficult. Subconsiously they are oriented to the system of the ethical values of Dostoyevsky. Therefore their personal system of interrelations bears a somewhat idealistic nature. With whom not they constructed their interrelations, they assume the presence in their partner of such qualities as pliability, delicacy, punctiliousness, decency, sincerity, i.e., all those qualities, which are characteristic of the ethical program of Dostoyevsky.

    It is natural that genuine reality constantly disappoints Shtirlitsev. Therefore, analyzing the previous sad experience, they are very careful in the formation of new relations. Very not easily they converge with the people, they try not to tie their society, about itself, about their personal life they say very little and it is very unwilling.

    Very reserved - it is possible to work with this person side by side several years and about it not to almost anything know. In the contact they hold distant distance. It is outwardly very distrustful, inclined to the suspiciousness, but nevertheless no checkings to the "honesty" they for themselves allow - they consider this dishonorable for themselves and insulting for the partner. They count, if man abused by their confidence, let this will be on his conscience. (if, for example, Shtirlits suspects someone of the subordinates of the ill-intended actions, it makes the general warning to entire association, knowing that there already they themselves at everything will be dismantled and by general forces will reveal criminal. Matter much more badly is, if in the association ripens plot against it personally. Shtirlits a certain time waits, hoping that the "nucleus of conspirators" will complete any explicit inadvertence and then it will be possible to with it "be dismantled", or someone of the members of the association will prevent plot and will extinguish its. If neither that nor, etc. it occurs, it dismisses all.)

    Any manifestation of dishonorableness, dishonesty, meanness, treachery, zhul'nichestva survives very acutely. (Shtirlits in the ethical plan we generally deeply wound. By external severity and by inaccessibility it covers its internal vulnerability.)

    To the abuse of its confidence Of shtirlits it relates very painfully. Moreover the matter here not in the pride and not in the ambitions, but in the fact that its ethical code is touch uponed. Shtirlits is subconsiously oriented to confidence in man. Confidence and decency considers the standard of relations. Person, not allotted by these qualities, in his understanding, immoral villain and relation to it must be appropriate.

    Shtirlits knows how to recognize its errors and its fault (although it this costs enormous stress, since this acknowledgement, as a rule, by it is deeply suffered), never it avoids responsibility. Straightness and honesty - most active qualities of its ethics. - but to mountain to that, who will force -Wtirliqa to answer for the strange fault - on his own will and at will, he itself can "cover" whom conveniently (whom it considers it necessary), but do not give his god "to substitute" under the troubles, even on the misunderstanding. (that, although will be considered as the softening circumstance, nevertheless Shtirlits will conduct the most thorough investigation, until it is dismantled at the true motives of act)

    Relations with its disappointed people Of shtirlits it vomits without any regret and tries hence about them not to think. Any reference about these people to it is extremely unpleasant. (when to it about them they resemble, it usually it puckers and it turns away.)

    Any aggravation of the relations Of shtirlits receives as declaration of war: it will mobilize entire its will and energy and it begins to consider the plan of actions in the prevailing situation. Moreover this war usually continues "to the victorious end" and it costs it the enormous stress of forces and nerves, which subsequently affects its health.

    Shtirlits magnificently knows how to aggravate relations and sufficiently rapidly acquires to itself the mass of enemies. Therefore the ethical program of its duala of Dostoyevsky is for his "problematic" ethics present rescuing, since it orients toward the mutual understanding, pacifism, mercy and pliability. Dostoyevsky learns Shtirlitsa to be magnanimous, to know how to pardon, he "softens" Shtirlitsa, smooths out the sharp angles of his relations. Shtirlits is calmed, vidya before itself an ethical example of Dostoyevsky, who knows how to stably transfer any disappointments and who knows how not to hold evil. The idealistic principles of Dostoyevsky find the reality, when them follows Shtirlits.

    Block OF SUPERID*'-YA the pozitsiya*Aktivatsionnaya function * the "intuition of possibilities"
    If representatives of this type do not always have time into the foot in the course of time, and "clock rate, that bite off minutes" them he constantly holds in the stress, then the creative thought of many of them considerably anticipates the current events.

    In however fantastic they gave it was taken away its imagination, Shtirlits never is torn off from the reality. (projects Of lednardo.da.vinchi were calculated for the realization contemporary to it by means; Bulgakov's phantasmagorias reflect the absurd reality of contemporary to it reality.)

    Even if each of the representatives of this type works in the field of scientific research, each with the interest will listen story about the new unknown phenomena. (of course if information source is sufficiently authoritative.)

    Shtirlits respects people, which know how to generate interesting and original ideas, of just as capable nontrivially thinking. With respect it relates for projects and proposals of others and the same it requires for itself. It is inspired by any real possibility to personify its creative concepts and scientific ideas. And vice versa, the absence of the visible prospects impedes its business activity (if not at all it is).

    Shtirlits needs people, capable of maximally opening its creative potential, of estimating its abilities and talents, soak to realize them. Specifically, this aid it renders its dual Dostoyevsky, who enthusiastically receives all its ideas and undertakings, the capable of encouraging and of supporting into the difficult minute. (Dostoyevsky, who usually does not love to run on the instances and to request for himself, the projects Of shtirlitsa break through with the exceptional energy.)

    To the forecasts and the prognostication Of shtirlitsy they relate with the attention and the interest they listen to the opinion of people, which know how to foresee the course of events in the future (especially, if this ability it is based on scientific experience). Any science, in base of which is possible the prognostication, causes its interest and respect.

    It is considered the opinion of people, capable of examining the ethical potential of each person - his moral qualities and of inclination. (logical and sensory potential, i.e. intellectual abilities and artistic taste, it wonderfully sees itself.)

    It knows how to experience its abilities and possibilities. In the situation of competitions and competitions not it snikayet - on the contrary, appears "sport ardor", which will mobilize its forces, and, whatever happened, it magnificently manages itself.

    To the strange success Of shtirlits it does not envy - on the contrary, is glad, since it considers that undeservedly the success to no one does not come. (although arrogant upstarts, who design for easy success, it does not love, just as those, who attain popularity by any price.)

    It condemns never no one for the failures. On the contrary, he always tries to cheer up and to support man, whose labor for any reasons is not evaluated on the merits.

    It does not love, when to it "kolyat eyes" by the strange successes: success for it not end in itself - it is necessary to make well its work, and it will arrive by itself.

    The criticism of its abilities Of shtirlits also it does not love, since makes entire possible and impossible in order to develop them. (not each Shtirlits "is developed" into Lednardo.da.vinchi, but relation to the development of its own possibilities in each of them very serious)

    Block ID*"-ya pozitsiya*Nablyudatel'naya Function * The" logic Of relationships "
    Representatives of this type learn entire life and entire life to them obtained knowledge do not be sufficient, in what they never are troubled to acknowledge, but that does not always find understanding in their associates. "in the very fifteen years of teaching period, and it comes to me to the lessons with the the tetradochkoy and everything in detail writes!.." (from the opinions about the representative of this type).

    No work experience, any professional achievements give To shtirlitsam of confidence in the fact that they know sufficiently much. Representatives of this type are completely deprived of any professional ambitions and never they suffer the absence of self-criticism. Whatever level of professionalism they reached, never they make possible for themselves to overestimate its own possibilities and any new work they approach exceptionally seriously.

    Approaching the creative or scientific research work, they for long and scrupulously collect material. (sometimes the collection of material it continues for the elongation of their entire professional activity.)

    The depth of the study of preparatory material in Shtirlitsev is completely staggering. (M. A.

    Bulgakov, who never was in Jerusalem, with the striking accuracy described the topographic special features of this city - fact, which is recognized itself many, familiar with his creation Israelis)

    The erudition Of shtirlitsev is worthy any admiration! Independent of the kind of activity, their library they abound with all possible reference books, dictionaries, catalogs, atlases and encyclopedias. (in library of one of the representatives of this type, which develops the design of toys, they were stored atlases with the image behave like a beast and all animal existing on the earth it is specific; moreover many forms of animals were various atlases.)

    Shtirlits usually is not troubled to recognize its incompetence, although this is extremely rarely. Incompetence in a professional question - generally exceptional phenomenon, but if such occurs, then only if this information was for it for some reasons inaccessible.

    Although precisely for present Shtirlitsa no information is inaccessible. People of this type ideally be suitable for the collection of secret and "almost inaccessible" information, they ideally correspond to the profession of the intelligence officer: exceptional power of observation in combination with the skill to analyze the obtained information (moreover, obtained along all possible and impossible channels), outstanding physical endurance, resoluteness, composure, maximum industriousness and irreproachable accuracy of work - here is the complex of data, which allotted practically each of the representatives of this type and because of which some of them appear by the irreplaceable "soldiers of invisible front".

    Any obtained information, any knowledge gives to representatives of this type "information to the reflection". Information sources in Shtirlitsa are subdivided into the "authoritative" and "the the neavtoritetnye". The first start almost unconditionally, (although also not without the checking), the second - are checked and are rechecked until they pass into the discharge of "authoritative".

    Entrusts Shtirlits only of that information, which is confirmed by facts and of authenticity of which it is personally repeatedly convinced. It accepts any new information very thoroughly and it is thorough, trying to connect it with the already existing system of knowledge. If something of nedoponyal, it is not troubled to ask again or to refine. The obtained information he tries immediately to decompose "on the shelves". To it it is always important to understand it not only briefly, but also to refine details.

    By simple and intelligible means it can present the most complex almost inaccessible to understanding concept - quality, which helps to it dostich' excellent results in the teaching work.

    From its side, Shtirlits greatly values in the people the skill to clearly and consecutively its thought of its very "to bring down from the thought" very difficultly - presenting anything, it never it will move away from the assigned theme and not to what taking away to the side questions usually it is distracted.

    Incapacity it is clear and sympathy usually is not caused to consecutively its thought in it, it does not love the confused and confused explanations.

    The distortions of facts and manipulation by them so does not suffer, moreover, its this circumstance always greatly irritates, especially, when its personal interests or interests of its matter are affected.

    the "speculative" logic Of shtirlits does not assume - it not of those, whom it is possible to convince of what by the conveniently simplest manipulation of arguments. It agrees with the strange opinion, if only it does not contradict its own installations and persuasions, and if it by the facts in evidence, of which it is personally convinced.

    Block ID * the eighth position * demonstrative function * "volitional sensorika"
    Constantly and everywhere, apropos and without the visible reasons For shtirlits is expressed the readiness to give the volitional rebuff to anyone who although by anything it will catch. Constantly demonstrates skill, ability and readiness to postoyat' for itself.

    This ability realizes in Shtirlitsa subconsiously and at every turn it is manifested in its behavior.

    Independent of mood and state of any of the representatives of this type speaks with the constant, exaggerated by pressure in the voice, with the arrangement and the accentuation almost each its word, as if he wants to emphasize its special significance.

    Always sharp and napr4jenno- angular in the motions. Only closest people can see them with those weakened.

    In view of constant stress, which is very rapidly transferred by that surrounding, contact with Shtirlitsami by many will seem by unpleasant and tiresome. But this in no way relates to its dualu to Dostoyevsky. The tension of its Shtirlitsa only pleasantly tones up - it derives from usual that weakened and as- as if the unscrewed state, it makes it necessary to be gathered with the forces, it will mobilize its will and energy.

    Will and purposefulness Of shtirlitsa also bear demonstrative nature. For edifying purposes Of shtirlits it knows how to show an example of that how it is necessary to postoyat' for itself. But will first attack not be never - perhaps that on the misunderstanding.

    Resoluteness manifests only in the interests of the matter, in the plan of the protection of personal interests and interests of "its command".

    Purposefulness -only within the framework of expediency as the form of the realization of its own creative potential. Shtirlitsy are not capable "of working by elbows" and "of rise along the corpses" for achievement of their purpose. Therefore a question of self assertion of its own ambitions also little disturbs them - they never seize authority, but they come to it by the will of voters, and their right to control and management they magnificently prove by the honest and selfless labor.

    Exceptionally hardy and hardy people. Is created impression, that overcoming difficulties for them the natural and optimum form of existence:

    they work on nineteen it is hour in a 24 hour period, it is always energetic, active, to the deep old age they preserve high vital tone and external attractiveness.

    Emphasized are neat, accurate, organizovanny, distsiplinirovanny. They are considered conveniences in those surrounding. They try not to cause no one troubles and not to reach inconveniences. Their problems decide only by their own forces - what them this not cost.

    Shtirlits - innate leader and, as a rule, splendid leader. It does not fear to take the great responsibility upon itself and is not attempted to shift its responsibilities on others. The burden of everyday interests pulls without any objection, however heavily it was.

    It surrounds its partner by most thorough concern and guardianship, combining its family responsibilities with the professional and public activity. And if the partner Of shtirlitsa is his dual Dostoyevsky, the spent efforts worthily and entirely reward.
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    One of my oldest friends is an ESTj. We wont see each other for a month or so then we will hang out heaps. That is a good example of the activity relationship.

    From the forums, a lot of people seem to call ESTj a boring type. I have now typed 4 of them im quite sure. 3 Girls and one guy. The two girls i work keep to themselves. They just basically get on with there job and get it done. One girl was the girlfriend of my ENTj friend. She was a little boring she was very christian and wholesome, probablly too much so. She was really sweet.

    Finally there is my friend. I have NEVER found him boring. He is incredibly smart, he seems to soak up information like a sponge. One of the top students in medicine at his university. He will often tell me about genetics and space and things that im interested in but dont understand. He can tend to talk a bit if you let him though. When i go to his house we always have a lot of fun. He will crack open some wine and cook a really amazing dinner. He gives me a lot of confidence as he always seems in control. He seems rarely phased. He stands up for what he believes. He also likes to cruise out to a pub or go bowling or see a movie, he likes to go out which is great.

    There is another ESTj i have been friends with a while at work. He works in 3rd level support for our organisation. He is an absolute sponge i used to be in awe of him when i worked with him. He knew so much about the network and was a brilliant troubleshooter. His abilities are nothing short of impressive.

    Anyway im probablly biased because we are activity partners but i think ESTj's are awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    One of my oldest friends is an ESTj. We wont see each other for a month or so then we will hang out heaps. That is a good example of the activity relationship.

    From the forums, a lot of people seem to call ESTj a boring type. I have now typed 4 of them im quite sure. 3 Girls and one guy. The two girls i work keep to themselves. They just basically get on with there job and get it done. One girl was the girlfriend of my ENTj friend. She was a little boring she was very christian and wholesome, probablly too much so. She was really sweet.

    Finally there is my friend. I have NEVER found him boring. He is incredibly smart, he seems to soak up information like a sponge. One of the top students in medicine at his university. He will often tell me about genetics and space and things that im interested in but dont understand. He can tend to talk a bit if you let him though. When i go to his house we always have a lot of fun. He will crack open some wine and cook a really amazing dinner. He gives me a lot of confidence as he always seems in control. He seems rarely phased. He stands up for what he believes. He also likes to cruise out to a pub or go bowling or see a movie, he likes to go out which is great.

    There is another ESTj i have been friends with a while at work. He works in 3rd level support for our organisation. He is an absolute sponge i used to be in awe of him when i worked with him. He knew so much about the network and was a brilliant troubleshooter. His abilities are nothing short of impressive.

    Anyway im probablly biased because we are activity partners but i think ESTj's are awesome
    One reason it may be easy to call an ESTJ boring is because we far from spontaneous, we may go out a lot but for the most part...we'll do the same things all the time. I can see how some would consider this boring.

    it's funny you actually said these ESTJ's are like sponges with info...A guy at work called me that the other day because I fixed a piece of equipment and just "knew" what was wrong with it, even though we hadn't had any problems like that in forever he wondered how I knew what to do to fix the tool...I told him that I did it a long time ago and then he said, dude you're like a sponge with this crap and always seem to know all the little stuff that nobody else usually picks up...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka
    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger
    One of my oldest friends is an ESTj. We wont see each other for a month or so then we will hang out heaps. That is a good example of the activity relationship.

    From the forums, a lot of people seem to call ESTj a boring type. I have now typed 4 of them im quite sure. 3 Girls and one guy. The two girls i work keep to themselves. They just basically get on with there job and get it done. One girl was the girlfriend of my ENTj friend. She was a little boring she was very christian and wholesome, probablly too much so. She was really sweet.

    Finally there is my friend. I have NEVER found him boring. He is incredibly smart, he seems to soak up information like a sponge. One of the top students in medicine at his university. He will often tell me about genetics and space and things that im interested in but dont understand. He can tend to talk a bit if you let him though. When i go to his house we always have a lot of fun. He will crack open some wine and cook a really amazing dinner. He gives me a lot of confidence as he always seems in control. He seems rarely phased. He stands up for what he believes. He also likes to cruise out to a pub or go bowling or see a movie, he likes to go out which is great.

    There is another ESTj i have been friends with a while at work. He works in 3rd level support for our organisation. He is an absolute sponge i used to be in awe of him when i worked with him. He knew so much about the network and was a brilliant troubleshooter. His abilities are nothing short of impressive.

    Anyway im probablly biased because we are activity partners but i think ESTj's are awesome
    One reason it may be easy to call an ESTJ boring is because we far from spontaneous, we may go out a lot but for the most part...we'll do the same things all the time. I can see how some would consider this boring.

    it's funny you actually said these ESTJ's are like sponges with info...A guy at work called me that the other day because I fixed a piece of equipment and just "knew" what was wrong with it, even though we hadn't had any problems like that in forever he wondered how I knew what to do to fix the tool...I told him that I did it a long time ago and then he said, dude you're like a sponge with this crap and always seem to know all the little stuff that nobody else usually picks up...lol
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    To construct its personal interrelations to representatives of this type is very difficult. Subconsiously they are oriented to the system of the ethical values of Dostoyevsky. Therefore their personal system of interrelations bears a somewhat idealistic nature. With whom not they constructed their interrelations, they assume the presence in their partner of such qualities as pliability, delicacy, punctiliousness, decency, sincerity, i.e., all those qualities, which are characteristic of the ethical program of Dostoyevsky.

    It is natural that genuine reality constantly disappoints Shtirlitsev. Therefore, analyzing the previous sad experience, they are very careful in the formation of new relations. Very not easily they converge with the people, they try not to tie their society, about itself, about their personal life they say very little and it is very unwilling.

    Very reserved - it is possible to work with this person side by side several years and about it not to almost anything know. In the contact they hold distant distance.

    My misunderstanding of Fe and Fi, and lack of experience to draw from, is what lead me to think I was Fe seeking. Related to this was my interpretation of Ti and Te, of course. But most clearly from my perspective is the Fe/Fi divide.

    That above selection definitely is a part of who I am.
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    The polr block description is severely limited. It only focuses on "time", and doesn't address much of how the LSE does not use intuition well in determining the motives of others, etc.

    Maybe it is somewhere else in the description, but I'll look through it later.
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    Stratievskaya's descriptions aren't good in attributing particular traits to particular functions; they're also, yes, a bit old-fashioned in the understanding of some functions, and in particular. It's best to read them as a whole and more or less forget her functional attribution.
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