An ENTj says

[Delilah]

*expired*

[Adam Strange]

I'd say it is important to look conservatively businesslike and to be generous, but that's just me.

The part about failing is correct. I learn best from my failures, so it is important to accept failures and learn from them.

[niffer]

Yes, I could see that coming out of the mouth of a good LIE friend of mine.

[FDG]

I'm not american so I don't talk like that...?

[FDG]

I should have clarified it that yes, it's a bit culture-specific

No, but honestly, do normal people go around saying stuff like that to their friends?

[Adam Strange]

No, but honestly, do normal people go around saying stuff like that to their friends?

I say stuff exactly like that all the time to people I'm working with, or especially to people who might be starting up in business.

Except, the reverse. It is very important to project an image that tells the customer that you are serious and they can rely on you, but it is also important to not nickle-and-dime your solutions to their problems. Money that you spend on providing high-quality things or services that the customer wants will come back to you.

Why would this answer be culture-specific?

[FDG]

I say stuff exactly like that all the time to people I'm working with, or especially to people who might be starting up in business.

Except, the reverse. It is very important to project an image that tells the customer that you are serious and they can rely on you, but it is also important to not nickle-and-dime your solutions to their problems. Money that you spend on providing high-quality things or services that the customer wants will come back to you.

Why would this answer be culture-specific?

It would be perceived as condescending and fake in my culture of origin.
Something that everybody knows and shouldn't even be stated openly unless you're a priest doing a sermon.
It may be considered OK if it's written in a book or article and so on. Otherwise, help is normally limited to practical and specific advice.
(I am not joking - I am interested in these differences)

[Adam Strange]

It would be perceived as condescending and fake in my culture of origin.
Something that everybody knows and shouldn't even be stated openly unless you're a priest doing a sermon.
It may be considered OK if it's written in a book or article and so on. Otherwise, help is normally limited to practical and specific advice.
(I am not joking - I am interested in these differences)

Very interesting. I think American culture is a lot less formal that European culture.

[Chae]

Very interesting. I think American culture is a lot less formal that European culture.

Interesting thing to consider. Haven't been to the States so I can't compare subjectively, but Europe's formal ways are indeed there as I experience them. I can speak for Germany, Austria, Switzerland for instance.

[Exodus]

...and I said, but, why?

LIE said, because:
1) it's important in this business to look generous but act conservative
2) Do you know how to fail? You have to be able to fail.


Do you identify or do these make sense as something an LIE could have said?

#2 sounds like part of the "fail faster" mentality, which is based on Se and Te essentially (a willingness to plunge forward and get messy instead of carefully adhering to what is most optimal). I could see an LIE saying that, but maybe other extroverted types like EIE, SEE, or ILE.

#1: I'm not sure what the supposed contradiction is between these two things, but it does have an element of awareness of communication. More typical of SEE or EIE.

[Adam Strange]

My mom's boyfriend says stuff like this ALL the time. He's either LSE or LIE, but I can't decide which one. He's definitely a Te ego.

What type is your mom?

He also says things like:

"you're going to have at least 20 jobs before you turn 30, you just have to find what you're good at"

I agree with this, but I will say, some people seem to find their dream jobs right away. (I had 14 jobs before I was 30.)

"you're going to be miserable unless you have goals"

This sounds arrogant to me. Sounds more like him projecting than a fact.

"It's called functional art" (he likes to build functional things and says that it's his form of "art")

LIE's suck at art. But so do LSE's. So he's going with what he's got, and telling himself it's good. Lol.

He's also always trying to get my sister and I to create our own businesses, etc. and is always trying to give us job related advice & give us tips on how to make money and "secure our futures". It bores and even annoys me for the most part and his advice usually goes in one ear & out the other, but my sister is EII & Te dual seeking, so she's been taking his advice to heart and doing exceptionally well with it; she even works for him part time now (he wanted me to work for him too, but I was not the least bit interested lol).

This does sound LIE. An LSE would encourage someone to join a big company and work their way up.

[FDG]

Ah, now I remember, there's some people I know who work in real estate sales who talk like this all the time.

Interesting thing to consider. Haven't been to the States so I can't compare subjectively, but Europe's formal ways are indeed there as I experience them. I can speak for Germany, Austria, Switzerland for instance.

Ineed, northern Italy's also pretty formal compared to the american people I know.

[The Reality Denialist]

Interesting thing to consider. Haven't been to the States so I can't compare subjectively, but Europe's formal ways are indeed there as I experience them. I can speak for Germany, Austria, Switzerland for instance.

Just try Russia (or any other Slavic countries) or Italy (south).

I think money is quite a lubricant over there but I live one of the least corrupt countries (just guess how we got there).