Marina Diamandis (Marina & The Diamonds)

[Chae]

She's been taking over the enneagram 3 thread lately - now's the question, what's her TIM?

As for instinct stacking: SP/SX.

[Chae]

Maybe some sort of ExFx. I also got her tritype down, 3w4 7w6 9w1.

[Chae]

@handjob what do you think?

[flames]

@handjob what do you think?

Se/Ni? ExFx 3w4

[Chae]

This is rather Si, idk... could be ESE

[flames]

This is rather Si, idk... could be ESE

Yeah, I did think that last time I saw which was like yesterday. She mostly seems gamma to me but that could just be 3w4.

[Chae]

Yeah, I did think that last time I saw which was like yesterday.

Yep, that would explain why you saw the Se and I the Si! She does cover topics like these here, but on top of it it's quite refined visually.

[Chae]

She mostly seems gamma to me but that could just be 3w4.

That's what I thought about as well... If we hypothetically place her there - SEE or ESI (NT can be excluded for sure), which one is more likely? That could say sth about Si or Se preference when she's SEI or ESE on the other hand.

[khcs]

Marina Diamandis - ESFJ - Hugo

Marina Diamandis1.jpg

[Skepsis]

I always thought she was ESFpish. This is probably my favorite song of hers:

[Skepsis]

God, she is so beautiful and very interesting.

[Skepsis]

This is her writing about how she identifies as an introvert:

http://marinabook.co.uk/post/1669189...ma-of-solitude

[Kernel]

This is her writing about how she identifies as an introvert:

http://marinabook.co.uk/post/1669189...ma-of-solitude

She seems SF gamma, It's between ESI and SEE... There is a song I found 2 years of her that reminds me of SF gamma. I used to type this song as ENTJ in MBTI and I remember I found it very funny.

[Not A Communist Shill]

Oh my god, she looks just like Shakira...no no, Catherine Zeta.

[Sol]

the girl in red is so pretty

[maniac]

so/sx
She has the naivete of an sp last. Compare to like.. Sasha Grey (sp/sx 3w4)

and she's like wanting to be 'the cool kid' and thats pretty common with so/sx, if you know what i mean by that

not to speak of the fact that she has numorous songs about social, like this one:


and yeah.. she's 3w4. she's like the most obvious 3w4 i've ever seen

[Kill4Me]

SEE-Fi 2w3 sp/sx

She doesn't have the more hollow kinesthetic of a SEE 3w4. She's too naturally authentic and not over-calibrating herself to any particular persona.

3w4s are also out of touch with the feeling center....the kinesthetic to look for presents differently.

She also doesn't have the hyper soft and sad expression in her eyes for a so/sx. She also doesn't have the splayed out kinesthetic for so/sx.

[powerrainbowcrystal]

SEE?

She doesn't do much for me, though I usually like SEEs a lot. Something about her is too aloof and ditzy.

Even though she definitely VIs as SEE - and seems very gamma SF at face value, it could be possible that internally she's more like an EII. I would just have to get to know her more over time I guess. She seems too controlled by Hollywood agents to know her tho lol.

[ashlesha]

She doesn't do much for me, though I usually like SEEs a lot. Something about her is too aloof and ditzy.

I have a similar reaction. Superficially she seems cool but whenever I listen to her music im like...meh. Feels stale and empty.

[Chthonic Daydream]

I enjoy 'The Family Jewels' the most, and absolutely despise Electra Heart era and all it stood for. Froot was okay I guess, kinda like a homecoming. But i still think her first stuff was the best

[Kill4Me]

sp/sx slaps a more inward layer onto the SEE-Fi 2w3's outgoing, social drive for praise and approval.

Here's another interview.

at about the 2:00 mark she talks about needing praise and approval from the people she was working with. Per that and her physical expression, it's accurate to say that her motivation is to win people over. I'm not seeing the hollower, empty kinesthetic of SEE 3w4. Her self-exposition is too humble for the more arrogant, egotistical, and self-promoting type 3....not even the subtle bragging of the more efficient, haughty 3w4. At around 9:50, she's giving way too much credit to Brody Dalle in a way that a 3w4 wouldn't. She's an approval seeker and exudes a pretenatural child-like qualia. More a positive reframer than a competency triader.

Perhaps there is a confusion as to the differences in motivation between type 2 and type 3. But the motive to win people over is type 2, not type 3...in the centers of intelligence, type 2 overexpresses the feeling center, which means they are driven by seeking out validation/praise/approval from others. Type 3 is out of touch with the feeling center, and type four underexpresses the feeling center.

[Kernel]

SEE?

She doesn't do much for me, though I usually like SEEs a lot. Something about her is too aloof and ditzy.

Even though she definitely VIs as SEE - and seems very gamma SF at face value, it could be possible that internally she's more like an EII. I would just have to get to know her more over time I guess. She seems too controlled by Hollywood agents to know her tho lol.

True that. I've watched some of her interviews, and she doesn't seem like I imagined an SEE would be. I heard that she wanted to create an image for every album (and I was basing my typing on that) so that was not her true self, but after reading some of her posts, my view of her completly changed...
She also reminds me of someone here on the forum (forgot their name) who self-typed as EII or IEE.

[Kernel]

I'm between IEI or IEE for her, but I kinda lean much more toward IEE. She mentioned in one of her two interviews that her first two albums were more of a story and character she created more than her personality. She seems embarassed of all the Electra heart thing she created now because it was not herself, and this fact makes me think she's IEE more than IEI. In her album Froot, she wrote everything herself with the intention of being her true self, so we have some hints, for example in her song "Can't pin me down" she speaks about how she hates it when people judge people based on categories they belong to, she said "I'm a just girl in the 21st century" she doesn't want anyone to put her in a box, which I guess indicates IEE more than any type, like she wants to be understood and people to see her for her true self more than achieving fame/success or something else. She also looks high as heck all the time which indicates IEE haha (or intuitive lol). Also, I've noticed something about some I typed IEE, in their music, the song is often upbeat/sweet/lighthearted but underneath (lyrics) there is a serious/sad side to it. I'm not sure if it's charcteristic of IEE, but I have only seen it yet in IEEs and Marina music. And her interests are more NF, like psychology, writing, as she talks often in her music about human behavior. Something worth mentioning also, she said that her motivator of starting her career is to express ideas and sort her own thoughts. She also often laughs at her appearence in interviews, which is not SEE imo because they're pretty confident about it...

[Stellafera]

I'm still amazed that Marina Diamandis is her actual birth name

[Chae]

I'm still amazed that Marina Diamandis is her actual birth name

Wow that's so cool... I mean that alone would be the ideal artist name. But she changed it just to include her fans it's incredibly sweet dhjsdhsldj

[Bertrand]

I think striving to be your true self is a Ne Fi thing (a lot of people say things to this effect so its sort of a cliche, but actually putting yourself out there and really doing it, and I don't mean like making a scene but I mean asking yourself the difficult questions)

[Kernel]

I think striving to be your true self is a Ne Fi thing (a lot of people say things to this effect so its sort of a cliche, but actually putting yourself out there and really doing it, and I don't mean like making a scene but I mean asking yourself the difficult questions)

Yeah, maybe.
She also seems Ne/Si valuer to me more than Se/Ni. This one is a good video, it feels very natural.

[Starvish]

I like her music... seems Gamma to me but I could see Delta.

[Pink]

I’ve had the biggest girl crush on her since 2010

[Pink]

Hollywood infected your brain
You wanted kissing in the rain

Oh oh, I've been living in a movie scene
Puking American dreams

Oh oh, I'm obsessed with the mess that's America
I'm obsessed with the mess that's America

[photon]

What about IEE?

[Cybernetic]

IEE is my guess.

[para]

Marina Diamandis - IEE?

[Saberstorm]

I do not know, but I like her songs. I think she is an introvert. Just a guess.

[The Reality Denialist]

IEE

[Saberstorm]

I just watched more of her stuff. She is less introverted than I thought.

[flames]

I think IEE

[wasp]

my most listened to artist of 2021, according to spotify

any thoughts on her type? @Sol

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

i thought IEI initially based off of lyrics and VI. looked closer, IEE makes sense too. my face would have been IEEfied due to interacting with my sister.
voice type and aesthetics are IEE, not IEI...

[serenaeva]

Some NF type