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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Like #godz
    Have you read Gaiman's American Gods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    Have you read Gaiman's American Gods?

    I looked through the plot and I agree though, neverless, Ne is divine as much as Si is ambrosia hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post

    I looked through the plot and I agree though, neverless, Ne is divine as much as Si is ambrosia hehe
    Agree with what?



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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    Agree with what?



    The self love force is strong today.
    The thesis that the divine is the elevation of the human, gods are made by us. Understandable since drive for altering one's existence helps to evolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The thesis that the divine is the elevation of the human, gods are made by us. Understandable since drive for altering one's existence helps to evolve.
    I was curious because I think you might find a kindred spirit there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    I was curious because I think you might find a kindred spirit there.
    That would be nice On my list.
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    Calm me down or check me in 1 second.
    One look or a touch.
    "Relax" "quit it" or "what are you doing?" My 2 brothers have done this my whole life. ESI and SEE

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatesyardwork View Post
    Calm me down or check me in 1 second.
    One look or a touch.
    "Relax" "quit it" or "what are you doing?" My 2 brothers have done this my whole life. ESI and SEE
    Damn, I noticed a similar effect with my SLI dad My tempers and moods have zero effect on him, he suggests what I have to do and that's it, I feel at ease.

    Does this work the other way around with your brothers?
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    They seem so scary at first. But if you chat them up they are very kind, reasonable, non-judgmental, pro-active, and I just feel relaxed and calm around them. I'm astounded at how well they handle stress too. I think my communication skills improve being around them too because I have a hard time finding the words for stuff. I find myself being more organized and getting things done more too. I get stuck in my head a lot. I'm not happy about that, but that's who I am. Maybe I need to try and focus on Se more and lead with that if I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Damn, I noticed a similar effect with my SLI dad My tempers and moods have zero effect on him, he suggests what I have to do and that's it, I feel at ease.

    Does this work the other way around with your brothers?
    It does work but in a different way. I calm my ESI brother down by not trying to. Like your dad he has zero effect on me. I just let him rant and he calms himself down eventually. He rages and I let him and it calms him down. He realizes he's not getting a reaction and he just stops eventually.
    I need an abrupt stoppage and he needs to blow off steam. Strange. Don't know if that is socionics or maturation. I know how to or not to push his buttons because I can escalate him by needling him. Be unreactive, don't make it look like I am judging him. Neutral body language and expressions. He calms down.

    Is our behavior a difference in logics/ethics or using Fi differently.
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    Someone who to share with all encompassing view that everything is essentially just pure insanity. If not apparent at first you just need to work with it having it in mind.
    From me one can not demand and expect:
    • practicality of ideas;
    • punctuality and diligence;
    • consistency and completeness;
    • constant order in the home and in the workplace;
    • quality of routine work;
    • soft skills to adapt to the interlocutor.


    Anal Expulsive personality (no hyphens for you)

    So called false dual logic that actually reveals some remote potentials:
    "sure crocodiles can fly, but very, very close to the ground"
    Just think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets View Post
    Oh they are good at sticking up for me in social situations, but its only because they wanna fuck me.
    maybe if you did some more squats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullets View Post
    Well they kinda do... so many SLEs are in prison and shit. The only thing they got going for 'em is their sex appeal.
    It's sad but true unfortunately. The other day I wrote out some thoughts on how there are 4 life tracks that SLEs can take, which can be mixed and matched:

    1) you are a criminal, drug dealer, or become an ex-criminal working serial minimum wage jobs
    2) you are That Guy who is deep down a chaotic good who is always pushed into lawful good Gryffindor Goku mode roles
    3) you are a regular worker bee, wimpy, moody and frustrated at your own inffectualness within your current position and you compensate by whipping your spouse at home or going on forums in your double life (usually the girlier, wimpier SLE guys are like this, or the actual women, especially at the start of their careers)
    4) you are a pro athelete
    5) stay at home mom

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    It's sad but true unfortunately. The other day I wrote out some thoughts on how there are 4 life tracks that SLEs can take, which can be mixed and matched:

    1) you are a criminal, drug dealer, or become an ex-criminal working serial minimum wage jobs
    2) you are That Guy who is deep down a chaotic good who is always pushed into lawful good Gryffindor Goku mode roles
    3) you are a regular worker bee, wimpy, moody and frustrated at your own inffectualness within your current position and you compensate by whipping your spouse at home or going on forums in your double life (usually the girlier, wimpier SLE guys are like this, or the actual women, especially at the start of their careers)
    4) you are a pro athelete
    5) stay at home mom
    I'd say this is a pretty grim assessment, except that I know six SLE's off the top of my head, and they sort into your tracks extremely well.

    (1) in track #1. Spent ten years in Jackson prison for armed robbery, now is completely unemployable despite being a hard worker.
    (4) in track #2. One has a PhD & MBA but is not well-liked by his co-workers because he can be obviously exploitative and can't see that he's annoying people, the second is in theater and is supported by his GF but does not beat her, the third is in maintenance and does not beat his IEI GF, and the fourth is a cashier in a restaurant and is heavily tatooed with the front half of his head shaved and the back half gathered into a pony tail, has given up on women, and is probably the nicest guy of the bunch.
    (1) in track #3. Exactly as described, but does not go on forums.
    (0) in track #4. I need to expand my circle of friends.
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    Things that surprise me about my duals:

    They are easy to talk to. Time seems to fly by during our conversations.
    Some of them get incorrect ideas in their heads and seem to be unable to change or to let go of these ideas.
    I seem to inexplicably piss off most of them sooner or later, and I have no idea how this happens. Weirdly enough, they don't stay upset forever. Time to reconciliation has ranged from minutes to years, of the ones who have reconciled.
    Their negativity and practicality provides a surprisingly valuable counter-balance to my positivism and slightly impractical optimism.
    I feel happier when I talk to them for a while. This seems to apply to all of the one's I've talked to.

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    I feel safe.

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    Their ability to make things happen and brazenly be themselves while doing it. That someone so different from me could possibly be attracted to my neurotic kook of a personality.

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    I relate. I think, how could someone need a loose cannon in their life But apparently I'm like @Slugabed's second soul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I relate. I think, how could someone need a loose cannon in their life But apparently I'm like @Slugabed's second soul



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    Quote Originally Posted by Slugabed View Post


    These made my heart go doki doki Ahhh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I'm like @Slugabed's second soul
    At this rate I think that we could do this...



    Or this if you prefer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slugabed View Post
    At this rate I think that we could do this...



    Or this if you prefer...

    FuuSIOOOONNN <33333333 Well. We are now the official panda squad of 16types ^3^
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    Things that astound me about LSEs :

    - How they achieve professional success by being so good they can't be ignored; by producing things that are so undeniably useful such that employers just can't not hire/promote them (as opposed to achieving professional success by being uber charismatic and excellent at networking, which is the avenue that many successful people took) -- they build success on solid foundations made of stone, earth, and wood, not air -- they master their craft in painstaking detail instead of trying to skip steps -- their confidence is based on competence
    - Their incredible work ethic
    - Their instinct for when to do things like bribe hardware shops to duplicate keys that have "do not duplicate" written on them
    - Their sense of humor
    - How emotionally vulnerable they actually are, under the facade of success, ambition, and competence -- how much power they give someone as nondescript and gentle as me to affect them

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    The sheer quantity of things they can find to be precise about.
    Reason is a whore.

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    How much they seek attention by doing loud obnoxious things. My cold looks make my SEE flustered sometimes. Now that is wonderful.

    Other times he tries to interrupt me when I'm saying something, I stop, think about saying something else, then go on or change directions, in any case he laughs and heee heee hees at me that I'm flustered. That's so not true and my cool reply makes him mysterious and wondering.

    We can go anywhere and anyone is his friend. He's my only real friend who isn't a blood relation.
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    As truth is gathered, I rearrange,
    Inside out, outside in, inside out, outside in,
    Perpetual change"


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    - Can fix things exactly the way you ideally expected and hoped for without ever falling short in some form
    - Highly knowledgeable about practical matters in nearly endless detail
    - Easy to talk to about almost any subject on your mind
    - Defaults to being relaxed and easy going the vast majority of the time even if flustered at certain moments
    "Nothing happens until the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change."

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    Their social skills are basically witchcraft (in a good way).
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